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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 19, 2021 8:50 am

So the lawyer for the Crazy Q people, the ones who did that attempted coup back in January, thinks his clients are all nuts and short bus people


In other news the CEO of Colonial Pipeline Acknowledged paying the $4.4 million ransom payment saying “it was the right thing to do”

Also Maricopa County official Twitter started heckling the supposed “audit” that’s going on in Arizona. This was after they declined to attend a strange republican sponsored pro-audit meeting saying “we have wasted enough County resources. People’s tax dollars are real, your ‘auditors’ are not.”
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Watkins, the “Q Shaman” Jacob Chansley’s attorney, said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case.

“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all fucking short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”


fucking lmao, my dude really just called his clients retarded
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Watkins, the “Q Shaman” Jacob Chansley’s attorney, said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case.

“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all fucking short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”


fucking lmao, my dude really just called his clients retarded

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Watkins, the “Q Shaman” Jacob Chansley’s attorney, said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case.

“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all fucking short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”


fucking lmao, my dude really just called his clients retarded


Well, you have to be, to post selfies of yourself committing a crime live on social networks...
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Watkins, the “Q Shaman” Jacob Chansley’s attorney, said his client had Asperger’s syndrome and indicated that Chansley’s mental state — and the impact of Trump’s “propaganda” efforts — would play a role in his case.

“A lot of these defendants — and I’m going to use this colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully — but they’re all fucking short-bus people,” Watkins told TPM. “These are people with brain damage, they’re fucking retarded, they’re on the goddamn spectrum.”


fucking lmao, my dude really just called his clients retarded

Whatever gets them that insanity plea I guess, especially if they don’t fire him
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed May 19, 2021 9:25 am

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fucking lmao, my dude really just called his clients retarded


Well, you have to be, to post selfies of yourself committing a crime live on social networks...


We are so fortunate that our right wing is disproportionately made up of extremely stupid people compared to historical right wing extremists. Imagine if the Hutu Power people were this dumb.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 19, 2021 9:33 am

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fucking lmao, my dude really just called his clients retarded


Well, you have to be, to post selfies of yourself committing a crime live on social networks...


And then loudly shout IT WAS ME when commentators try to deflect blame away from you onto their preferred targets.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed May 19, 2021 9:42 am

Vassenor wrote:
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Well, you have to be, to post selfies of yourself committing a crime live on social networks...


And then loudly shout IT WAS ME when commentators try to deflect blame away from you onto their preferred targets.


Reminds me of how Trump surrogates would try to claim something wasn't really what he said but then Trump would assert it was.

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"Yes I did. It was a joke though so it's all good, right?"
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed May 19, 2021 10:29 am

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Hes not going to jail Blueanon lol


What in the fuck is blue anon?

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You sure it isnt that you don't want him to go to jail, and not that he won't?


I’ve heard legal excerpts on CNN and MSNBC say that because Trump is a former President and has secret service protection for the rest of his natural life, he is most likely not going to serve jail time. However, he can still be a convicted felon and have something like house arrest and wear an ankle monitor.

I've been watching this dude escape consequences for decades and yet this small thing would be oddly satisfying.
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Postby Myrensis » Wed May 19, 2021 11:07 am

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Kowani wrote:Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) opposed to January 6 commission in its current form

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) told his fellow Republicans during a closed-door caucus lunch Tuesday he can't support a Jan. 6 commission in its current form, two sources familiar with his remarks tell Axios.

Senate Republicans are bracing for a House vote Wednesday. Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) opposes the commission but several Republicans are expected to buck leadership — making it more difficult for Senate Republicans to dismiss it.

McConnell made comments to his colleagues along the lines of, "There’s 41 of us who could change this, and I think we should,” according to one of the sources. A second source confirmed the nature of the comments.

When McConnell finished, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) — who's retiring in 2023 — also stood up and questioned aspects of the deal.
The senators did not indicate the deal is DOA in the Senate, the sources said, but made clear they would want to see substantive changes.
Such changes being discussed more broadly among some Republicans include ensuring the panel is truly bipartisan.
Rep. John Katko (R-N.Y.), who struck the deal with Democrats in the House, voted to impeach Trump — raising concerns among his fellow Republicans.
McConnell spoke publicly following the lunch and said he is "pushing the pause button" on the legislation, adding the GOP conference is “undecided."

He also noted the Justice Department and other congressional oversight committees are investigating the insurrection.
McConnell questioned whether a new commission would interfere with that work.
Most Republican members are wary of the commission and want to reframe the narrative away from the insurrection.

A prominent concern is that it could be weaponized to subpoena members.
There's also concerns it might alienate members of the GOP base, as well as former President Trump — who was impeached by the House for inciting the riot.
Alternatively, they recognize that if an investigation is going to take place, it's better to have a hand in investigating it than to allow Democrats to be fully in control.


So he doesn't want the terrorist attack investigated because that would upset his Dear Leader. Despite the whole Law and Order platform the GOP claims to have.

More evidence the GOP is a Trumpist cult of personality.


Republicans don't want it investigated because they very much want to push the narrative that the rioters were just some fringe crazies, rather than have focus put on the reality that they are the bedrock of the base the Republican Party has been cultivating for decades and that Trump took full advantage of.

Or well, actually, the new strategy seems to be to try to memory hole the 6th entirely and insist that nothing actually happened except that a tour group got a little loud. Even though, ya know, 5 people died and there are photos of the same Congressmen helping to barricade the doors of the House chamber against the...totally peaceful patriotic tourists.
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Federal judge rules that Florida cannot stop the Biden administration from enforcing a pair of immigration directives just because it “simply disagrees” with those priorities

The state of Florida cannot stop the Biden administration from enforcing a pair of immigration directives just because it “simply disagrees” with those priorities, a federal judge ruled on Tuesday evening, finding that his agencies’ discretionary decisions were not subject to judicial review. Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody (R) filed the lawsuit in March after the administration issued a January memo to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and a February memo to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) which halted the detention of certain immigrants who had previously been to prison. The administration justified the temporary measure as an effort to prioritize more dangerous and violent offenders with the agencies’ limited resources. The complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida, alleged that in issuing the immigration guidance, Biden and his cabinet officials had “violated their oaths of office, flouted Congressional statutes, failed to protect U.S. citizens and immigrants alike, and created what will quickly become a public-safety nightmare.”

“The Biden Administration cannot simply order federal immigration officials to ignore the clear commands of Congress,” the suit alleged, adding, “This unprecedented, flagrant disregard for the public safety of Americans and Floridians is a radical departure from even Obama-era policy.”

Florida argued that the interim policies should be enjoined for violating the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) “pending judicial review.”

The administration contended that because only final agency actions are reviewable under the APA, the statute was not applicable to interim policies that were only intended to last a few months.

In a 23-page opinion, U.S. District Judge Charlene Edwards Honeywell, an appointee of President Barack Obama, sided with the administration, concluding that the court “cannot conclude that the memos constitute the agency’s definitive position,” and did not “constitute final agency action reviewable under the APA.”

“Clearly, the interim policies are a work in progress as evidenced by the additions to the policies from the January 20 memo to the February 18 memo. Moreover, the February 18 memo indicates that the Secretary is continuing to get input from the leadership of ICE, CBP, and DHS. The guidelines are just that; they are not statutes and do not have the status of law as they constitute a prioritization and not a prohibition of enforcement,” the order stated. “The ordering of priorities is not a refusal to act, but rather is a specific choice to act as it relates to certain matters over others,” Honeywell added. “Here, Florida simply disagrees with the choices made by the Biden Administration as to the priorities.”

Law&Crime contacted Moody’s office regarding the decision but did not receive a response before publication.
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https://apnews.com/a074994845d53b1c93a01e2617be025d

Idaho Lieutenant Governor Janice McGeachin (R) announced she will primary incumbent governor Brad Little (R)

Idaho is one of several states that elect the two positions in separate elections.

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So he doesn't want the terrorist attack investigated because that would upset his Dear Leader. Despite the whole Law and Order platform the GOP claims to have.

More evidence the GOP is a Trumpist cult of personality.


Republicans don't want it investigated because they very much want to push the narrative that the rioters were just some fringe crazies, rather than have focus put on the reality that they are the bedrock of the base the Republican Party has been cultivating for decades and that Trump took full advantage of.

Or well, actually, the new strategy seems to be to try to memory hole the 6th entirely and insist that nothing actually happened except that a tour group got a little loud. Even though, ya know, 5 people died and there are photos of the same Congressmen helping to barricade the doors of the House chamber against the...totally peaceful patriotic tourists.


Conservative pundits having this weird obsession with 1984 (a book ironically written by a socialist) is irony in the first degree. They are not the geese and sheep slaughtered in animal farm, but instead they are the pigs. They are not the proles of 1984. They are Big Brother. The modern GOP is everything George Orwell warned us about.
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Kowani wrote:Federal judge rules that Florida cannot stop the Biden administration from enforcing a pair of immigration directives just because it “simply disagrees” with those priorities

The state of Florida cannot stop the Biden administration from enforcing a pair of immigration directives just because it “simply disagrees” with those priorities, a federal judge ruled on Tuesday evening, finding that his agencies’ discretionary decisions were not subject to judicial review. Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody (R) filed the lawsuit in March after the administration issued a January memo to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and a February memo to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) which halted the detention of certain immigrants who had previously been to prison. The administration justified the temporary measure as an effort to prioritize more dangerous and violent offenders with the agencies’ limited resources. The complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida, alleged that in issuing the immigration guidance, Biden and his cabinet officials had “violated their oaths of office, flouted Congressional statutes, failed to protect U.S. citizens and immigrants alike, and created what will quickly become a public-safety nightmare.”

“The Biden Administration cannot simply order federal immigration officials to ignore the clear commands of Congress,” the suit alleged, adding, “This unprecedented, flagrant disregard for the public safety of Americans and Floridians is a radical departure from even Obama-era policy.”

Florida argued that the interim policies should be enjoined for violating the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) “pending judicial review.”

The administration contended that because only final agency actions are reviewable under the APA, the statute was not applicable to interim policies that were only intended to last a few months.

In a 23-page opinion, U.S. District Judge Charlene Edwards Honeywell, an appointee of President Barack Obama, sided with the administration, concluding that the court “cannot conclude that the memos constitute the agency’s definitive position,” and did not “constitute final agency action reviewable under the APA.”

“Clearly, the interim policies are a work in progress as evidenced by the additions to the policies from the January 20 memo to the February 18 memo. Moreover, the February 18 memo indicates that the Secretary is continuing to get input from the leadership of ICE, CBP, and DHS. The guidelines are just that; they are not statutes and do not have the status of law as they constitute a prioritization and not a prohibition of enforcement,” the order stated. “The ordering of priorities is not a refusal to act, but rather is a specific choice to act as it relates to certain matters over others,” Honeywell added. “Here, Florida simply disagrees with the choices made by the Biden Administration as to the priorities.”

Law&Crime contacted Moody’s office regarding the decision but did not receive a response before publication.

Good. These immigration policies need to be somewhat relaxed imo.
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Postby The Alamann » Wed May 19, 2021 11:46 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Republicans don't want it investigated because they very much want to push the narrative that the rioters were just some fringe crazies, rather than have focus put on the reality that they are the bedrock of the base the Republican Party has been cultivating for decades and that Trump took full advantage of.

Or well, actually, the new strategy seems to be to try to memory hole the 6th entirely and insist that nothing actually happened except that a tour group got a little loud. Even though, ya know, 5 people died and there are photos of the same Congressmen helping to barricade the doors of the House chamber against the...totally peaceful patriotic tourists.


Conservative pundits having this weird obsession with 1984 (a book ironically written by a socialist) is irony in the first degree. They are not the geese and sheep slaughtered in animal farm, but instead they are the pigs. They are not the proles of 1984. They are Big Brother. The modern GOP is everything George Orwell warned us about.


Would you like a pink feather boa and a pair of Jordan’s to go with that melodramatic folly?
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The Alamann wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Conservative pundits having this weird obsession with 1984 (a book ironically written by a socialist) is irony in the first degree. They are not the geese and sheep slaughtered in animal farm, but instead they are the pigs. They are not the proles of 1984. They are Big Brother. The modern GOP is everything George Orwell warned us about.


Would you like a pink feather boa and a pair of Jordan’s to go with that melodramatic folly?

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) wrote:“You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.”

George Orwell wrote: “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Necroghastia wrote:
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Would you like a pink feather boa and a pair of Jordan’s to go with that melodramatic folly?

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) wrote:“You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit.”

George Orwell wrote: “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”


That one example based upon something that’s already been beaten into the ground. Based. The GOP is the new Nazi party of America! It must be so!
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed May 19, 2021 11:56 am

The Alamann wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Conservative pundits having this weird obsession with 1984 (a book ironically written by a socialist) is irony in the first degree. They are not the geese and sheep slaughtered in animal farm, but instead they are the pigs. They are not the proles of 1984. They are Big Brother. The modern GOP is everything George Orwell warned us about.


Would you like a pink feather boa and a pair of Jordan’s to go with that melodramatic folly?


It ain't melodrama when you got the president encouraging violence against people he doesn't like. Surprised you mistakr that for melodrama when you're over in the Israel thread complaining about "Easterners" allegedly taking over your country, aka your neighborhood has one Arab family now.
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That one example

dare we bring up their stances on climate change? qanon? the election fraud bs? there's enough examples we could go all day and then some if you'd like
based upon something that’s already been beaten into the ground.

what does this even mean lol
Based.

hell fuckin yeah it is lol
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Postby Bari » Wed May 19, 2021 12:07 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:New York AG Letitia James is joining the Manhattan district attorney's office in a criminal investigation of the Trump Organization.

The Civil Investigation will continue so far as we know. The fact that Letitia's investigation now has a criminal component probably tells us they suspect criminal activity and further increases legal risk for Trump, his family, and organization. Trump also has another problem: Giuliani, who had a search warrant executed on him weeks ago as they comb through that information though Giuliani is trying to stop that.


Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see him behind bars before 2024 and throwing the Republican party into utter disarray.

With this case, the SDNY and the one in Georgia i think its a matter of who indicts him first.

You honestly think something—anything—will come of the proceedings?

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Postby Myrensis » Wed May 19, 2021 12:13 pm

It's funny to me how apologists keep insisting that people are overreacting to the insanity of the GOP when it's literally on loud and proud public display.

Like, your friendly reminder that the State of Arizona is conducting an audit of an election they lost 6 months ago, using an out of state company with no election experience being funded by...nobody actually knows, and that amidst a general shitshow of unsecured ballots and computer illiterate employees, is literally pointing UV lights at ballots based on a QAnon conspiracy theory from the election that Trump ordered millions of ballots printed with secret watermarks as part of his Master Plan(tm) to expose all the Democratic voter fraud.

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Postby Kowani » Wed May 19, 2021 12:15 pm

Myrensis wrote:It's funny to me how apologists keep insisting that people are overreacting to the insanity of the GOP when it's literally on loud and proud public display.

Like, your friendly reminder that the State of Arizona is conducting an audit of an election they lost 6 months ago, using an out of state company with no election experience being funded by...nobody actually knows, and that amidst a general shitshow of unsecured ballots and computer illiterate employees, is literally pointing UV lights at ballots based on a QAnon conspiracy theory from the election that Trump ordered millions of ballots printed with secret watermarks as part of his Master Plan(tm) to expose all the Democratic voter fraud.

don't forget looking for bamboo ballots from Asia!
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Texas governor signs into law bill banning abortions at six weeks
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) on Wednesday signed into law a bill that bans abortions as early as six weeks and before many people know they are pregnant, the Texas Tribune reports.


The law also lets almost anyone, including people with no connection to the person getting the abortion, sue abortion providers who intend to perform the procedure after the time limit, regardless of whether the person sued knew or should have known that the abortion would be performed...
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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