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Postby Duvniask » Sat May 08, 2021 5:03 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:


Right-wing Twitter may be freaking out about this. The rest of us are glad that America is contributing less to overpopulation.

I find it bizarre that the VAST majority of people flipping out about the U.S low birth rates have no children themselves.

Superficial understandings of the issue are what leads one down this line of reasoning. It's also telling that you haven't really thought a lot about this since you think it's just a problem for right-wing Twitter.
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat May 08, 2021 5:09 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:


Right-wing Twitter may be freaking out about this. The rest of us are glad that America is contributing less to overpopulation.

I find it bizarre that the VAST majority of people flipping out about the U.S low birth rates have no children themselves.


The U.S. isn't overpopulated, nor does it contribute to overpopulation.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat May 08, 2021 5:12 pm

Duvniask wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Right-wing Twitter may be freaking out about this. The rest of us are glad that America is contributing less to overpopulation.

I find it bizarre that the VAST majority of people flipping out about the U.S low birth rates have no children themselves.

Superficial understandings of the issue are what leads one down this line of reasoning. It's also telling that you haven't really thought a lot about this since you think it's just a problem for right-wing Twitter.


I refuse to take anyone seriously that screeches about low birth rates and yet have have no children themselves.
I also don’t buy into the “great replacement” theory bullshit.
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat May 08, 2021 5:15 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Superficial understandings of the issue are what leads one down this line of reasoning. It's also telling that you haven't really thought a lot about this since you think it's just a problem for right-wing Twitter.


I refuse to take anyone seriously that screeches about low birth rates and yet have have no children themselves.
I also don’t buy into the “great replacement” theory bullshit.


Bro for real do you know how hard it is to get a date? I'm so socially awkward and afraid of rejection I can barely make small talk with a girl I like, let alone flirt with one.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat May 08, 2021 5:18 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
Right-wing Twitter may be freaking out about this. The rest of us are glad that America is contributing less to overpopulation.

I find it bizarre that the VAST majority of people flipping out about the U.S low birth rates have no children themselves.


The U.S. isn't overpopulated, nor does it contribute to overpopulation.


The world is overpopulated and less people having kids is a good thing for the planet’s survival.
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Postby Duvniask » Sat May 08, 2021 5:19 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Superficial understandings of the issue are what leads one down this line of reasoning. It's also telling that you haven't really thought a lot about this since you think it's just a problem for right-wing Twitter.


I refuse to take anyone seriously that screeches about low birth rates and yet have have no children themselves.

Some of us can't just have children at this point in our lives. Some people are overworked, others are poor and stuck in a job that pays fuck-all. Some people are just stressed out of their minds or can't meet anyone. And some people only get the level of financial stability needed to start a family by the time they're middle aged and more or less infertile. To top it all off we're in the middle of a pandemic; not exactly conducive to starting a family. Why should this preclude anyone from saying that this is a problem?

Your standards are nonsense.

I also don’t buy into the “great replacement” theory bullshit.

Irrelevant.

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Postby Lady Victory » Sat May 08, 2021 5:20 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
The U.S. isn't overpopulated, nor does it contribute to overpopulation.


The world is overpopulated and less people having kids is a good thing for the planet’s survival.


No, the developing and undeveloped world are overpopulated. The rest of the world is either rather stable or could use more people tbh.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat May 08, 2021 5:21 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I refuse to take anyone seriously that screeches about low birth rates and yet have have no children themselves.
I also don’t buy into the “great replacement” theory bullshit.


Bro for real do you know how hard it is to get a date? I'm so socially awkward and afraid of rejection I can barely make small talk with a girl I like, let alone flirt with one.


I haven’t had a date either and I’m socially awkward as well. I’m nearly 30 years old and I haven’t even had my first kiss.
That being said, someone screeching about low birthrates but doesn’t have children themselves is just pathetic.
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat May 08, 2021 5:22 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Bro for real do you know how hard it is to get a date? I'm so socially awkward and afraid of rejection I can barely make small talk with a girl I like, let alone flirt with one.


I haven’t had a date either and I’m socially awkward as well. I’m nearly 30 years old and I haven’t even had my first kiss.
That being said, someone screeching about low birthrates but doesn’t have children themselves is just pathetic.


bruh

The cognitive dissonance here is astounding.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat May 08, 2021 5:25 pm

Duvniask wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I refuse to take anyone seriously that screeches about low birth rates and yet have have no children themselves.

Some of us can't just have children at this point in our lives. Some people are overworked, others are poor and stuck in a job that pays fuck-all. Some people are just stressed out of their minds or can't meet anyone. And some people only get the level of financial stability needed to start a family by the time they're middle aged and more or less infertile. To top it all off we're in the middle of a pandemic; not exactly conducive to starting a family. Why should this preclude anyone from saying that this is a problem?

Your standards are nonsense.

I also don’t buy into the “great replacement” theory bullshit.

Irrelevant.



I know, telling people practice what the preach is “nonsense”. :lol:

No, it’s pointing out the hypocrisy of someone. I refuse to have children, and I refuse to take a childless person screeching about low birthrates seriously.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat May 08, 2021 5:26 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I haven’t had a date either and I’m socially awkward as well. I’m nearly 30 years old and I haven’t even had my first kiss.
That being said, someone screeching about low birthrates but doesn’t have children themselves is just pathetic.


bruh

The cognitive dissonance here is astounding.


Well, I’m asexual. So don’t want to have sex with anyone. :lol:
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat May 08, 2021 5:28 pm

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As compared to the previous guy? nahh. He is working the pandemic really well.
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Postby Duvniask » Sat May 08, 2021 5:31 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Some of us can't just have children at this point in our lives. Some people are overworked, others are poor and stuck in a job that pays fuck-all. Some people are just stressed out of their minds or can't meet anyone. And some people only get the level of financial stability needed to start a family by the time they're middle aged and more or less infertile. To top it all off we're in the middle of a pandemic; not exactly conducive to starting a family. Why should this preclude anyone from saying that this is a problem?

Your standards are nonsense.


Irrelevant.



I know, telling people practice what the preach is “nonsense”. :lol:

No, it’s pointing out the hypocrisy of someone. I refuse to have children, and I refuse to take a childless person screeching about low birthrates seriously.

Is it unclear to you that being childless isn't a simple choice one makes in a vacuum?

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat May 08, 2021 5:32 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Some of us can't just have children at this point in our lives. Some people are overworked, others are poor and stuck in a job that pays fuck-all. Some people are just stressed out of their minds or can't meet anyone. And some people only get the level of financial stability needed to start a family by the time they're middle aged and more or less infertile. To top it all off we're in the middle of a pandemic; not exactly conducive to starting a family. Why should this preclude anyone from saying that this is a problem?

Your standards are nonsense.


Irrelevant.



I know, telling people practice what the preach is “nonsense”. :lol:

No, it’s pointing out the hypocrisy of someone. I refuse to have children, and I refuse to take a childless person screeching about low birthrates seriously.

What is the hypocrisy?
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Postby Duvniask » Sat May 08, 2021 5:32 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
The world is overpopulated and less people having kids is a good thing for the planet’s survival.


No, the developing and undeveloped world are overpopulated. The rest of the world is either rather stable or could use more people tbh.

I wouldn't say this is true. The level of resource consumption in the first world is off the charts compared to the developing/underdeveloped world. Western countries exceed the carrying capacity of the Earth the most by far. The problem will only grow worse as the developing world catches up, of course - unless something is done to drastically improve the efficiency of resource usage, cut it back, or find new resources (or a combination of those).

That is not to say the developing world doesn't also face problems; it's more of a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of situation - rich countries can properly nourish their people and afford them a higher standard of living, but so far that comes at significant cost to the planet. Poor countries face the opposite problem. Either one of these could be termed "overpopulation", I suppose.

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Postby Kedri » Sat May 08, 2021 5:32 pm

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I can't remember the last time we've had a president that didn't suck.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat May 08, 2021 5:34 pm

I don't understand why people are frustrated about a low birth rate in general. I was under the impression that slower growth rates in a country plagued by skyrocketing home prices, overcrowded cities, and an overburdened social security system was a good thing? Kinda helps a lot of our problems to keep our numbers down, so to speak.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat May 08, 2021 5:36 pm

Duvniask wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:

I know, telling people practice what the preach is “nonsense”. :lol:

No, it’s pointing out the hypocrisy of someone. I refuse to have children, and I refuse to take a childless person screeching about low birthrates seriously.

Is it unclear to you that being childless isn't a simple choice one makes in a vacuum?


:rofl: I’m not going to justify being childless to you or anyone else.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat May 08, 2021 5:36 pm

Major-Tom wrote:I don't understand why people are frustrated about a low birth rate in general. I was under the impression that slower growth rates in a country plagued by skyrocketing home prices, overcrowded cities, and an overburdened social security system was a good thing? Kinda helps a lot of our problems to keep our numbers down, so to speak.


Because childless incels like be edgy and tell other people to have children.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat May 08, 2021 5:37 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Is it unclear to you that being childless isn't a simple choice one makes in a vacuum?


:rofl: I’m not going to justify being childless to you or anyone else.

There's a difference between debating the ethics of being childless and debating societal/economic/political problems which negatively influence the ease of having children.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Sat May 08, 2021 5:39 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
:rofl: I’m not going to justify being childless to you or anyone else.

There's a difference between debating the ethics of being childless and debating societal/economic/political problems which negatively influence the ease of having children.


Yeah, I’m not going to justify being childless, it goes double for childless people telling me that I should have children.

And that’s all I’m going to say about my personal life regarding my choice not have children.
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Postby Duvniask » Sat May 08, 2021 5:40 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Is it unclear to you that being childless isn't a simple choice one makes in a vacuum?


:rofl: I’m not going to justify being childless to you or anyone else.

What the fuck are you talking about, dude?

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat May 08, 2021 5:40 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:There's a difference between debating the ethics of being childless and debating societal/economic/political problems which negatively influence the ease of having children.


Yeah, I’m not going to justify being childless, it goes double for childless people telling me that I should have children.

And that’s all I’m going to say about my personal life regarding my choice not have children.

The latter (societal/economic/political problems which negatively influence the ease of having children) is what's being discussed, so there is no need.
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Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.

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Postby Lady Victory » Sat May 08, 2021 5:41 pm

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Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Biden sucks. Who agrees?


I can't remember the last time we've had a president that didn't suck.


His name was Theodore Roosevelt.

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Postby Duvniask » Sat May 08, 2021 5:42 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:There's a difference between debating the ethics of being childless and debating societal/economic/political problems which negatively influence the ease of having children.


Yeah, I’m not going to justify being childless, it goes double for childless people telling me that I should have children.

And that’s all I’m going to say about my personal life regarding my choice not have children.

Since when was this about you, specifically?

We're talking about society here. You're being weird, man.

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