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Biden and Trump are traitors to America.
Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:23 pm

Dresderstan wrote:

Also forgot Democratic candidate in '84. ;)


Mondale's running mate Geraldine Ferraro was the first woman named to a major party ticket in the US.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:27 pm

The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:28 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns.


Meanwhile the last republican president was a whole circus.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:33 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress


If fomenting, encouraging and assisting violent insurrection were the standard to be removed from Congress there's a whole fuckton of Republicans who'd be in line waaaaay ahead of Maxine Waters.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:44 pm



Class act. He kept a low profile after his 2002 defeat, but helped out here and there on the 2020 campaign trail, jumping on to "virtual hubs" across several states to give kind words of encouragement to lowly organizers like myself. His doing that, despite being 92/93 at the time, and far from healthy, really demonstrated the kind of generous person he was.

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Postby Dresderstan » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:45 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress

So, people should riot, the government is corrupt as shit and the politicians should be axed.
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Imagine being shocked about the fact of greed, corruption, and abuse of power in government.
The media is a propaganda tool fueling the two parties hyperpartisanship and killing the country, it's time to end the "freedom of the press"
Violence against the government is and should be accepted by the people, especially when said government wants to and is actively stripping away your constitutional rights.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:45 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress


Are you just regurgitating stuff you heard on Fox & Friends or?

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A pity. Fritz was a pretty great guy. There's a decent case to be made that the '84 election was the real tipping point into the forty year (and counting... maybe) neoliberal consensus.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:59 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress


Are you just regurgitating stuff you heard on Fox & Friends or?

I dont watch fox and friends, but isnt encouraging rioters to be more confrontational than they already are inciting a riot?
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:00 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress

So, people should riot, the government is corrupt as shit and the politicians should be axed.

Since when should Person A punish an unrelated Person B for something that Person C did?
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RIP. Sad he'll likely only be remembered as the guy who was a mediocre presidents powerless second in command and the guy Reagan beat in 1984.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:03 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress

The Republican Party is full of clowns. Jake Paul is somehow a successful boxer or wrestler or MMA guy or something now and yet Jim Jordan just continues to go about in his rumpled shirts looking like a grimy old water bottle as if nothing’s wrong. Jim Jordan should be removed from Congress
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:04 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress

The Republican Party is full of clowns. Jake Paul is somehow a successful boxer or wrestler or MMA guy or something now and yet Jim Jordan just continues to go about in his rumpled shirts looking like a grimy old water bottle as if nothing’s wrong. Jim Jordan should be removed from Congress

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Postby New haven america » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:05 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress

The Republican Party is full of clowns. Jake Paul is somehow a successful boxer or wrestler or MMA guy or something now and yet Jim Jordan just continues to go about in his rumpled shirts looking like a grimy old water bottle as if nothing’s wrong. Jim Jordan should be removed from Congress

... Why did you feel the need to type this condescending response?
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:06 pm

New haven america wrote:
Senkaku wrote:The Republican Party is full of clowns. Jake Paul is somehow a successful boxer or wrestler or MMA guy or something now and yet Jim Jordan just continues to go about in his rumpled shirts looking like a grimy old water bottle as if nothing’s wrong. Jim Jordan should be removed from Congress

... Why did you feel the need to type this condescending response?

So people will recognize the radiance of my genius and post things like this:
Great Algerstonia wrote:
Senkaku wrote:The Republican Party is full of clowns. Jake Paul is somehow a successful boxer or wrestler or MMA guy or something now and yet Jim Jordan just continues to go about in his rumpled shirts looking like a grimy old water bottle as if nothing’s wrong. Jim Jordan should be removed from Congress

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Ug make fire. Mod ban Ug.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:20 pm

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o7

Rest in Peace and God Bless You in Heaven Walter Mondale, my condolences to Walter Mondale's Family.

I strongly respect you for this comment I saw you make on TV: I strongly disagreed with Republican President Ronald Reagan on many issues, but I like him Personally.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:23 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress

The Republican Party is full of clowns. Jake Paul is somehow a successful boxer or wrestler or MMA guy or something now and yet Jim Jordan just continues to go about in his rumpled shirts looking like a grimy old water bottle as if nothing’s wrong. Jim Jordan should be removed from Congress


He's not really successful if he has to pay Ben Askren to take a fall

Also big F for Walter Mondale. The Carter admin might not have been the most effective but I can still respect the men in charge.
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Great Algerstonia wrote:The Democratic Party is full of clowns. Rioting in the streets and yet Maxine Waters encourages rioters to be more confrontational. Maxine Waters should be removed from Congress

I Am Allowed To Post The Related Post on This Thread But I Will Post A Short Excerpt:

My fellow Conservative Republican Friend. I will never use the negative words you used on Democrat Maxine Waters, Democrats or any Politicians of any kind. I Posted on the Anti- Police Protest And Riot Thread III a very original, meaningful, detailed Post with many links and videos on Democrat Maxine Watters. It is on Page 199 on my Browser, so on your Browsers it should be on Page 199 Plus or Minus a Few Pages.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:06 pm

The federal government will now give PPP loans to borrowers in bankruptcy

The federal government has quietly reversed course on a policy that had kept thousands of businesses from applying for pandemic economic aid, with only weeks to go before funds are expected to run out.

In late March, ProPublica reported on a Small Business Administration rule that disqualified individuals or businesses currently in bankruptcy from getting relief through the Paycheck Protection Program, an $813 billion pot of funds distributed to small businesses in the form of loans that are forgiven if the money is mostly spent on payroll. The agency had battled in court against several bankrupt companies attempting to apply for PPP loans, and did not change course even after Congress explicitly passed legislation in December allowing it to do so. Referencing ProPublica’s story, the National Association of Consumer Bankruptcy Attorneys wrote a letter to newly installed SBA Administrator Isabella Guzman urging her to follow Congress’ suggestion and tell the Executive Office for U.S. Trustees — a division of the Justice Department that oversees most American bankruptcy courts — to allow debtors to receive PPP loans.

The agency has not yet contacted the Justice Department. But on April 6, the SBA released new guidance as part of its frequently asked questions for the program, redefining what it means to be “presently involved in any bankruptcy.” Under the new interpretation, debtors who filed under Chapter 11, 12 and 13 — which cover businesses, family farms and individual consumers, respectively — are eligible for PPP loans once a judge has approved their reorganization plan. A spokesperson for the SBA said the explanation had been added for “clarity.”

A reorganization plan specifies the debtor’s path to paying off obligations to creditors, and is monitored by a trustee. In simple cases, a judge can confirm it within a few months of filing. This is what often happens in consumer Chapter 13 cases, about 279,000 of which were filed in 2019, as well as in relatively straightforward Chapter 11 cases that don’t require extensive litigation. About 5,500 companies filed for Chapter 11 in 2019.

The Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts doesn’t track how many of those companies have confirmed reorganization plans in place, but it’s estimated to be in the thousands. Now, companies on the road out of bankruptcy — which usually takes years to complete — can apply for PPP loans before the program’s May 31 deadline. With $50 billion left after several extensions, PPP funds are likely to run out before then.

Ed Boltz, a bankruptcy attorney on NACBA’s board who circulated the organization’s letter, said he believes the SBA changed its position after becoming “aware of the foolishness of the prior administration’s position.”
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:12 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5490 ... ork-in-nyt

OAN staffer fired after he blasts network in NYT

Former producer Marty Golingan tweeted “confirmed” in response to a tweet about his firing from Times reporter Rachel Abrams, who quoted him in her story about OAN’s continued amplification of conspiracy theories surrounding former President Trump’s defeat in the 2020 election.

For her piece, Abrams spoke with 18 current and former OAN staffers, 16 of whom said the network airs reports that are “misleading, inaccurate or untrue.”

Golingan told Abrams he at first thought OAN was “scrappy” when he joined it, but that opinion changed as time went by.

“The majority of people did not believe the voter fraud claims being run on the air,” he told Abrams talking about his coworkers.

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Postby The Grand Leader » Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/media/549041-oan-staffer-fired-after-he-blasts-network-in-nyt

OAN staffer fired after he blasts network in NYT

Former producer Marty Golingan tweeted “confirmed” in response to a tweet about his firing from Times reporter Rachel Abrams, who quoted him in her story about OAN’s continued amplification of conspiracy theories surrounding former President Trump’s defeat in the 2020 election.

For her piece, Abrams spoke with 18 current and former OAN staffers, 16 of whom said the network airs reports that are “misleading, inaccurate or untrue.”

Golingan told Abrams he at first thought OAN was “scrappy” when he joined it, but that opinion changed as time went by.

“The majority of people did not believe the voter fraud claims being run on the air,” he told Abrams talking about his coworkers.

Even OAN doesn't trust OAN

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