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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:32 pm

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Ain't it funny how all these people who were conservatives for decades got cancelled for not 100% supporting a guy who only became conservative when he realized there was a large pool of voters there who he could take advantage of.


started way before Trump. The American Taliban Tea Party was the beginning of the downfall of the Republican Party.

No, even before that, with Christian Reconstructionism influencing the GOP even earlier than that.
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Postby Rusozak » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:32 pm

Azalfia wrote:Re-reading the last few threads, to the point when the insurrection on the 6th was taking place actively, and seeing all of your live reactions, it made me remember the fear. I thought we'd have collapsed into a civil war. We didn't, but it really has challenged my views on authoritarianism.


Like a "Democracy must never die" view on authoritarianism or a "for a SAFE and SECURE SOCIETY!" view on authoritarianism?
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Postby Azalfia » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:34 pm

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Azalfia wrote:Re-reading the last few threads, to the point when the insurrection on the 6th was taking place actively, and seeing all of your live reactions, it made me remember the fear. I thought we'd have collapsed into a civil war. We didn't, but it really has challenged my views on authoritarianism.


Like a "Democracy must never die" view on authoritarianism or a "for a SAFE and SECURE SOCIETY!" view on authoritarianism?

If I was in support of the "SAFE and SECURE SOCIETY" view, I can assure you, if I ever get to that, slap me in the face virtually. I will always stand behind democracy. Hopefully.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:34 pm

Azalfia wrote:Re-reading the last few threads, to the point when the insurrection on the 6th was taking place actively, and seeing all of your live reactions, it made me remember the fear. I thought we'd have collapsed into a civil war. We didn't, but it really has challenged my views on authoritarianism.

I was worried we'd have to leave for Russia, or at the very least our town would be quickly taken over by the Florida national guard before major fighting and radicalization started.
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Postby Azalfia » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:35 pm

Exalted Inquellian State wrote:
Azalfia wrote:Re-reading the last few threads, to the point when the insurrection on the 6th was taking place actively, and seeing all of your live reactions, it made me remember the fear. I thought we'd have collapsed into a civil war. We didn't, but it really has challenged my views on authoritarianism.

I was worried we'd have to leave for Russia, or at the very least our town would be quickly taken over by the Florida national guard before major fighting and radicalization started.

I was prepared to get up and drive to the Great North.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:35 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
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started way before Trump. The American Taliban Tea Party was the beginning of the downfall of the Republican Party.

No, even before that, with Christian Reconstructionism influencing the GOP even earlier than that.


So that brings us back to like who, Ike? as the last good Republican president?
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:38 pm

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:No, even before that, with Christian Reconstructionism influencing the GOP even earlier than that.


So that brings us back to like who, Ike? as the last good Republican president?

I don't know, but definitely someone pre-Reagan. Man, sometimes I wish America was like it was in earlier times.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:39 pm

Joel Caston becomes 1st incarcerated person in Washington D.C. to win elected office

https://thegrio.com/2021/06/17/joel-cas ... AhkdSM7dJk
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Postby Azalfia » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:42 pm

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Joel Caston becomes 1st incarcerated person in Washington D.C. to win elected office

https://thegrio.com/2021/06/17/joel-cas ... AhkdSM7dJk

Democracy triumphs again. I'd argue this will help bring the ideas of criminal justice reform to the front table; so instead, we don't lock up people over smoking weed, and we fight for the rehabilitation programs.
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Postby Myrensis » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:43 pm



I feel like she'll probably survive, but possibly only thanks to Alaska switching to jungle primaries and ranked choice voting. She survived a primary ousting once, but that was before Trump turned the Republican base into his personal cult.

Will be a bit of irony if democrat votes let her hold her seat, while she still insists on remaining loyal to the GOP that despises her.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:44 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Joel Caston becomes 1st incarcerated person in Washington D.C. to win elected office

https://thegrio.com/2021/06/17/joel-cas ... AhkdSM7dJk

Not in favor. Washington DC has a too lax criminal justice system as it is. We don't need foxes guarding the hen house.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:47 pm

Myrensis wrote:


I feel like she'll probably survive, but possibly only thanks to Alaska switching to jungle primaries and ranked choice voting. She survived a primary ousting once, but that was before Trump turned the Republican base into his personal cult.

Will be a bit of irony if democrat votes let her hold her seat, while she still insists on remaining loyal to the GOP that despises her.


Possibly, but she's won on Democratic vote before, she got quite a few of them in her famous write-in victory.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:55 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
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So that brings us back to like who, Ike? as the last good Republican president?

I don't know, but definitely someone pre-Reagan. Man, sometimes I wish America was like it was in earlier times.


I don't really have opinions on Reagan, his term was before my time and I see both the positives and negatives of his legacy.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:55 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:56 pm

https://fox17.com/news/local/man-admits ... cleaver-ii

A southwest Missouri man has admitted that he threatened U.S. Reps. Emanuel Cleaver II of Missouri and Steve Cohen of Tennessee because he was upset by comments they made.

Kenneth R. Hubert, 63, of Marionville, Missouri, pleaded guilty Thursday to two counts of threatening to assault a U.S. official, according to court documents.

Hubert acknowledged that he left a voicemail at Cleaver’s office in Independence, Missouri, on Jan. 7. After calling Cleaver, who is Black, a racial slur, he said, “How about a noose around his neck?,” according to the documents.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://fox17.com/news/local/man-admits-threatening-missouri-tennessee-congressmen-steven-cohen-emanuel-cleaver-ii

A southwest Missouri man has admitted that he threatened U.S. Reps. Emanuel Cleaver II of Missouri and Steve Cohen of Tennessee because he was upset by comments they made.

Kenneth R. Hubert, 63, of Marionville, Missouri, pleaded guilty Thursday to two counts of threatening to assault a U.S. official, according to court documents.

Hubert acknowledged that he left a voicemail at Cleaver’s office in Independence, Missouri, on Jan. 7. After calling Cleaver, who is Black, a racial slur, he said, “How about a noose around his neck?,” according to the documents.

Then he should go to jail. As simple as that.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:03 pm

Muboshi wrote:@"Borderlands of Rojava"
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeahhh.

I hate the pandemic I wish we found out sooner so maybe the virus wouldve went away by now but nooooooooooooo we had to find out sooner when the virus was stronger

We knew a pandemic was coming. We actually had plans to deal with said pandemic, created under Obama. We knew about the possibility of a pandemic at least as far back as January, and I think there was news that we knew as far back as December. Trump took no action.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:04 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Muboshi wrote:@"Borderlands of Rojava"
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeahhh.

I hate the pandemic I wish we found out sooner so maybe the virus wouldve went away by now but nooooooooooooo we had to find out sooner when the virus was stronger

We knew a pandemic was coming. We actually had plans to deal with said pandemic, created under Obama. We knew about the possibility of a pandemic at least as far back as January, and I think there was news that we knew as far back as December. Trump took no action.


Some of us actually got sick with it before we knew what "it' was, myself included.
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:06 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://fox17.com/news/local/man-admits-threatening-missouri-tennessee-congressmen-steven-cohen-emanuel-cleaver-ii

A southwest Missouri man has admitted that he threatened U.S. Reps. Emanuel Cleaver II of Missouri and Steve Cohen of Tennessee because he was upset by comments they made.

Kenneth R. Hubert, 63, of Marionville, Missouri, pleaded guilty Thursday to two counts of threatening to assault a U.S. official, according to court documents.

Hubert acknowledged that he left a voicemail at Cleaver’s office in Independence, Missouri, on Jan. 7. After calling Cleaver, who is Black, a racial slur, he said, “How about a noose around his neck?,” according to the documents.

Then he should go to jail. As simple as that.

I mean, he pleaded guilty, he should go to jail, probably for at least five years due to the guilty plea, possibly ten given the president being threatened gets five, and this is for the threat alone. Depending on many factors this could be a hate crime(assuming it was about Cleaver's race), which may land an additional couple years, and a few more if he also made similar comments(which would also have to be racist) against Cohen.
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Postby Southland » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:09 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Muboshi wrote:@"Borderlands of Rojava"
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeahhh.

I hate the pandemic I wish we found out sooner so maybe the virus wouldve went away by now but nooooooooooooo we had to find out sooner when the virus was stronger

We knew a pandemic was coming. We actually had plans to deal with said pandemic, created under Obama. We knew about the possibility of a pandemic at least as far back as January, and I think there was news that we knew as far back as December. Trump took no action.


I actually first heard about this in November from Reuters. I remember thinking "this will probably peter itself put soon". Boy was I wrong...
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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:12 pm

Southland wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:We knew a pandemic was coming. We actually had plans to deal with said pandemic, created under Obama. We knew about the possibility of a pandemic at least as far back as January, and I think there was news that we knew as far back as December. Trump took no action.


I actually first heard about this in November from Reuters. I remember thinking "this will probably peter itself put soon". Boy was I wrong...

Thankfully weird African disease and Madagascar's new plague petered out. What happened to New Brunswick neurological disease?
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:15 pm

Southland wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:We knew a pandemic was coming. We actually had plans to deal with said pandemic, created under Obama. We knew about the possibility of a pandemic at least as far back as January, and I think there was news that we knew as far back as December. Trump took no action.


I actually first heard about this in November from Reuters. I remember thinking "this will probably peter itself put soon". Boy was I wrong...


Point is we knew before this was a pandemic that it existed. We knew it had the possibility of becoming a pandemic. Trump had months to act, at least 3 of them and if we knew in November we had at least 5 months. Trump did not act in those months, and so it became a pandemic. Then not only did he fail to act, he made things worse by spreading misinformation, everything from this will all be over in a month and is nothing special to pushing bunk cures, to opposing lockdowns. Practically every single one of Trump's decisions when it came to the pandemic was wrong.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:27 pm


Well, time to see if they've poisoned the well enough to brush this off.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:40 pm

Muboshi wrote:Alright everyone it's time for some questions .

1. Who did you vote for the 2020 election
2.Why did you vote for that person
3.What do you hope America becomes


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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:45 pm

I was kinda hoping that William Braddock would have said something about his phone call discussing using hitmen on his opponent by now, but I guess there isn't really much for him to say.
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