American Politics Thread V: We're Just Biden Our Time ...

[Esthe]

Water levels in California are falling so low that a hydro power plant is being forced to shut down operations because there simply isn't enough water in the reservoir anymore.

There goes the Western Coast.

[Muboshi]

@Esthe" Cali probably wont be a state anymore because almost everyone from that state is leaving.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Hydroxychloroquine was the most sane thing he promoted, and even that is questionable. He proposed injecting disinfectant, infusing the body with UV light, using old vaccines for other pathogens, etc. Just absolutely insane, but some people think otherwise.

Also the bleach incident.

The Trump Presidency was nothing more than a corrupt reality TV show.

[Esthe]

@Esthe" Cali probably wont be a state anymore because almost everyone from that state is leaving.

And the ones who stay are going to die from heatstroke and dehydration.

Oh well, it was nice while it lasted.

[Ifreann]

@Esthe" Cali probably wont be a state anymore because almost everyone from that state is leaving.

You know there's almost 40 million people in California, right?

[Maineiacs]

Alright everyone it's time for some questions .

1. Who did you vote for the 2020 election
2.Why did you vote for that person
3.What do you hope America becomes

1. None of your business
2. None of your business
3. None of your business

[Muboshi]

@"Esthe" only the dumb ones choose to stay unless they have a lifetime supply of water and can pay very high taxes. I'm guessing the Kardashians with probably stay.

[Picairn]

1) Amusingly and predictably, you cite a hit job that takes a single quote from Trump and spins it into a conspiracy theory that Trump is in Syria for "oil".

If Trump hadn't been there for oil, why did he contradict everyone else on the justifications for the war in Syria? You'll need to elaborate why that quote is a "hit job".

The rest is pure ideological garbage without proof.

2) I laughed at your diatribe of Kim's provocations (I really didn't laugh, but I was amused). Did you notice a consistent stream in your list? Yes, "short range" was the common denominator. Tactical short range missile tests of no strategic consequence. Indeed, NO nukes tests, NO ICBM tests, NO artillery barrages, NO submarine attacks, etc. as was the case on Obama's watch. Your post is a grasping of fantasy, minutia, and anecdotal nonsense to defy reality.

Actually, the H-bomb was tested under Trump in September 2017 after his "fire and fury" threat. Regardless, there were also submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBS) included after the meeting. Further, before the farcical meeting, North Korea also tested ICBMs, such as on July 3 and July 28, 2017. Again, you did not read the link and continued to spout propaganda like a mindless drone. Your post is a combination of debunked propaganda repeated ad infinitum despite the mountain of available evidence.

In sum, you can hate Trump because of his tweets or because your echo chamber of leftist sycophants hate him -- but don't hate Trump because of foreign policy. He sought to pacify foreign threats with personal diplomacy instead of costly and destabilizing wars. He disengaged from oil related foreign entanglements because he brought America energy independence and he rebuilt the US military, not as an instrument of offensive warfare, but to deter enemies like Russia, who coincidentally were not invading strategically vital regions like clockwork as they did on Obama's watch.

All debunked. Read the links, for the last time.

Amazing that you continued to repeat propaganda talking points when they were all debunked by me just several pages ago. Quick, which version do you want? This: viewtopic.php?p=38735725#p38735725, this: viewtopic.php?p=38735791#p38735791, this: viewtopic.php?p=38735742#p38735742

Or this? viewtopic.php?p=38735877#p38735877

[Muboshi]

@Maineiacs that sounds like something i would write

[Muboshi]

@"Ifreann"

heck yeah.

[Picairn]

Yet you refuse to acknowledge that anybody can get ahead with a decent education. Yet you refuse to acknowledge that the leftist public education monopoly has failed American children despite holding them captive for 7 hours a day for 12 years. These intelligent kids, who were once energetic and motivated to learn, can't even cite the three branches of government or construct a coherent paragraph.

"Leftists indoctrinate children in schools" becomes even more hilarious when you point out that schools are run by states and local communities, whose partisan control varies entity-by-entity. Even the federal K-12 education program is primarily giving funds to the states' public schools, not running them directly. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/ ... x.html?exp

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Also the bleach incident.

The Trump Presidency was nothing more than a corrupt reality TV show.

The Trumpman show.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

If the Trump Presidency really was a TV show, I'd be sending in fan mail with cash in the envelope. I'd be auditioning for the next season!

If you want it all to end why not just go big and wish for nuclear armageddon?

[Ifreann]

@"Ifreann"

heck yeah.

So it's ridiculous to say that almost everyone is leaving the state. They're not.

[Muboshi]

@"Ifreann"

just exagerating there. But seriously a lot of people I know are fleeing the state

[Galloism]

@"Ifreann"

just exagerating there. But seriously a lot of people I know are fleeing the state

The quote button on the upper right corner of his post will cause a new post to appear with the post you are trying to quote.

Then you just type underneath it.

Makes it a lot easier to know what you're responding to.

[Muboshi]

"Galloism" oh ok thank youu

[Ifreann]

@"Ifreann"

just exagerating there. But seriously a lot of people I know are fleeing the state

I don't think that's true either. I think you're just repeating a popular conservative talking point.

[Galloism]

@"Ifreann"

just exagerating there. But seriously a lot of people I know are fleeing the state

I don't think that's true either. I think you're just repeating a popular conservative talking point.

The truth, of course, lies in the middle.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states ... 000%2D2009.

Between 2010 and 2019, more people moved from California to other states than those who moved to the Golden State, with a net loss of about 900,000 during the decade. But the previous decade saw an even greater loss to out-migration: About 1.5 million residents left California from 2000-2009.

But understanding the full picture in California may be more complicated than that. According to Dowell Myers, a professor of urban planning and demography at the University of Southern California, "the big picture is not a linear trend. It pulsates with the economy. There's lots of ins and outs, and how to measure the real change requires more detailed data."

[Muboshi]

@Ifreann"
No to be honest i didnt even know that was a conservative talking point , but no I got my information from Youtubers that i watch and my friends who live in california

[Picairn]

I don't think that's true either. I think you're just repeating a popular conservative talking point.

Net migrations from California to other states are increasing, but there is still an influx of immigrants and citizens from other states pouring in. For example, 35,000 to 40,000 Texans move into California every year no matter what.

[Ifreann]

@Ifreann"
No to be honest i didnt even know that was a conservative talking point , but no I got my information from Youtubers that i watch and my friends who live in california

Exactly, you're repeating talking points you heard from conservatives on YouTube.

Anyway, it seems like you're refusing to quote people on purpose so I'm going to stop talking to you now.

[Kilobugya]

@"Ifreann"

just exagerating there. But seriously a lot of people I know are fleeing the state

I don't think that's true either. I think you're just repeating a popular conservative talking point.

There is net migration out of California, but what would be more interesting is to know the reasons. Is it because housing (and more generally life) is too expensive ? Because of climate/fires ? Too high population density ? Dislike of some policies ? Fear of earthquakes ? Something else ?

[Washington Resistance Army]

I don't think that's true either. I think you're just repeating a popular conservative talking point.

There is net migration out of California, but what would be more interesting is to know the reasons. Is it because housing (and more generally life) is too expensive ? Because of climate/fires ? Too high population density ? Dislike of some policies ? Fear of earthquakes ? Something else ?

No evidence on hand because it's anecdotal but from people I've talked to about it the big two are the climate and the general cost of living in a lot of areas.

[Muboshi]

@"Ifreann"
Why does it matter. People are still fleeing California. It doesn't make a difference on whose talking point it is. The point is people are leaving Cali no matter who says it .