American Politics Thread V: We're Just Biden Our Time ...

[Ifreann]

Get the fuck out of here. Ultraviolet watermarks?

from the mouths of the lunatics themselves

What's insane about that? UV water marks are a real thing.

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Like you yourself said the planet matters more and if some people don’t like it, tough.


Restrict yes. Completely ban no. We need to balance aggressive actions with concern for the livelihood of the common man.

irreplaceable works of art and buildings should be not destroyed.

Yet you want to demolish every dam, fascinating.

[Ifreann]

He disengaged from oil related entanglements? I don't think so: https://youtu.be/V6lf6wgQAnw

You're grasping and being intellectually dishonest by citing a canned statement on the tactical situation you've taken totally out of context without consideration of the overarching strategic actions of the Trump Administration.

Allow me,

ISIS funded much of their carnage via oil revenue throughout it's rampage that started on Obama's watch. In addition, Trump stated repeatedly on the campaign trail that defeating ISIS was one of his primary foreign policy goals. Trump never stated that starting wars for oil in the Middle East was one of his goals.

In fact, Trump was a strong supporter of foreign interventions to secure oil. In 2011 he said that the US should have intervened in Lybia, installed a new regime, and told that regime that in payment the US would be taking 50% of their oil.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

You're grasping and being intellectually dishonest by citing a canned statement on the tactical situation you've taken totally out of context without consideration of the overarching strategic actions of the Trump Administration.

Allow me,

ISIS funded much of their carnage via oil revenue throughout it's rampage that started on Obama's watch. In addition, Trump stated repeatedly on the campaign trail that defeating ISIS was one of his primary foreign policy goals. Trump never stated that starting wars for oil in the Middle East was one of his goals.

In fact, Trump was a strong supporter of foreign interventions to secure oil. In 2011 he said that the US should have intervened in Lybia, installed a new regime, and told that regime that in payment the US would be taking 50% of their oil.

"But guys! Trump good cuz no war!"

There is a disconnect between Trump's off-hand rhetoric and his actions while in Office.

Ah so Trump being full of shit is now a good thing.

*Note, leftists are seriously undermining America energy independence, thereby making America more vulnerable to foreign intrigue on energy markets.

That why the Texas power grid sucks ass?

[Ifreann]

In fact, Trump was a strong supporter of foreign interventions to secure oil. In 2011 he said that the US should have intervened in Lybia, installed a new regime, and told that regime that in payment the US would be taking 50% of their oil.

There is a disconnect between Trump's off-hand rhetoric and his actions while in Office. Indeed, if you're basing reality on the canned quotes of politicians, you are going to be very surprised and shocked at how events don't materialize based on this metric.

That wasn't off-hand rhetoric. He was not pressed for comment on the situation and came up with this without any opportunity for consideration. He made those comments on his YouTube channel. He made a choice to sit down in front of a camera and record his thoughts about Libya and post those thoughts online. He wasn't even a politician at the time, just a famous real estate developer and reality TV host who'd been getting a lot of attention for criticising then President Obama.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

In fact, Trump was a strong supporter of foreign interventions to secure oil. In 2011 he said that the US should have intervened in Lybia, installed a new regime, and told that regime that in payment the US would be taking 50% of their oil.

There is a disconnect between Trump's off-hand rhetoric and his actions while in Office. Indeed, if you're basing reality on the canned quotes of politicians, you are going to be very surprised and shocked at how events don't materialize based on this metric.

Substantively, Trump was the only president in decades not to entangle America in a costly, open-ended war. Trump crushed ISIS, held Putin and Kim in check and allow the free market to gain energy independence for America thereby further disentangling America from foreign wars.

Actual footage of Trump "holding putin in check": https://youtu.be/-ZJYAcFeoSM

[Borderlands of Rojava]

He disengaged from oil related entanglements? I don't think so: https://youtu.be/V6lf6wgQAnw

You're grasping and being intellectually dishonest by

Haha, no, the only person being intellectually dishonest here is you. You've made 100 arguments and all 100 got shot down in flames, and you just rinse and repeat the cycle again, hoping somehow it'll turn out better the next time like you're stuck in some kind of time loop.

[Muboshi]

[@"Borderlands of Rojava" What are your views on Biden

[Muboshi]

Alright everyone it's time for some questions .

1. Who did you vote for the 2020 election
2.Why did you vote for that person
3.What do you hope America becomes

[Borderlands of Rojava]

[@"Borderlands of Rojava" What are your views on Biden

Hes a professional nice guy (I'm trademarking that) who thinks that if he says "look here champ" enough, people will agree with him. His only strategies are to either bend and break in the face of opposition or to ignore it altogether, but he can never engage constructively with opposition while still holding firm. Also many of his views on issues such as Israel or marijuana legalization are a good 40 years behind the times, and his desire to make peace with the GOP is sadly misplaced. He is better than Trump only because the bar to be better than Trump is very low, but overall I'd give him a C grade as a president.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Alright everyone it's time for some questions .

1. Who did you vote for the 2020 election
2.Why did you vote for that person
3.What do you hope America becomes

1. Biden at the very last moment. I wasn't gonna vote at all because I didn't like either candidate but then Trump talked about "we need herd mentality so the pandemic ends" (he meant herd immunity which means 70% of people get the virus and develope immunity or die trying) and I said "this moron is gonna kill people I know. I can't let him remain president" so I voted for Biden the day of the election.

2. I voted for Biden just so Trump wouldn't be able to keep aiding covid. That was it, i didn't expect much of Biden.

3. I don't have much hope for this country or most of the current countries in the world. I'm just hoping to save up money and be able to go off grid.

[Muboshi]

@"Borderlands of Rojava" Same. The only reason I didn't vote for Biden this year was because of the pandemic. I don't really like how the democrats are handling things with having almost every business close. Yes, most businesses are up back and running but those are the strongest companies and I didn't think it was fair that the small business that just opened before the pandemic had to close down because they were forced to stay closed because of the pandemic and because they didn't get enough customers before the pandemic they couldn't pay their fines.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Water levels in California are falling so low that a hydro power plant is being forced to shut down operations because there simply isn't enough water in the reservoir anymore.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Water levels in California are falling so low that a hydro power plant is being forced to shut down operations because there simply isn't enough water in the reservoir anymore.

For a Chinese hoax, global warming sure looks real.

[The Reformed American Republic]

@"Borderlands of Rojava" Same. The only reason I didn't vote for Biden this year was because of the pandemic. I don't really like how the democrats are handling things with having almost every business close. Yes, most businesses are up back and running but those are the strongest companies and I didn't think it was fair that the small business that just opened before the pandemic had to close down because they were forced to stay closed because of the pandemic and because they didn't get enough customers before the pandemic they couldn't pay their fines.

Let's not forget that Trump reacted slowly during the pandemic.

[Muboshi]

@"The Reformed American Republic" I'm sorry I'm really stupid, but what do you mean by Trump reacting slowly to the pandemic.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Alright everyone it's time for some questions .

1. Who did you vote for the 2020 election
2.Why did you vote for that person
3.What do you hope America becomes

1. Couldn't cuz Canadian. If I could id vote Biden

2. Can't vote in us elections but I would have voted Biden beacuse well a lot of reasons really. The very abridged version is the shitty job Trump did with COIVD, Trump's FCC shutting down Net Neutrality, Trump leaving the Paris agreement and, in general Trump being anti science at every opportunity.

3. A social democracy where the Repubs are much less extremist and education on the sciences gets boosted.

[Seangoli]

Alright everyone it's time for some questions .

1. Who did you vote for the 2020 election
2.Why did you vote for that person
3.What do you hope America becomes

1. Biden. Didn't like it, would have preferred another person, but he was the one on the ticket.
2. Trump is a short sighted baffoon who caused irrevocable long term damage to the country on numerous fronts in favor of short term feel goods and gains. Biden was, at worst, a lateral move and at best I view him as marginally better at not continuing down a path of no return inatters of domestic and foreign politics as well as economics, all while simultaneously stoking the flames of division for his own personal ego. And yes, Trump is the most divisive President in living memory. His entire platform was constructed around Liberal Tears. That is definitionally divisive. He was a petulant fool who surrounded himself with sycophants, and whose terrible decisions were only stymied by said sycophants not being utterly insane to the point of walking the country off a cliff for his favor. I also view Populist politics as destructive and asinine, and is a truly cancerous tumor in Democratic Republics.
3. A more sane, less identity driven nation that makes decisions not on the whims of the leaders or politicking for the sake of politicking, and instead based on reasoned discussion and debate towards long term goals and achievements, and how we aim to achieve them.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

@"The Reformed American Republic" I'm sorry I'm really stupid, but what do you mean by Trump reacting slowly to the pandemic.

He kept denying there was an issue and downplaying the severity of the disease. He also left testing to the states and didn't ramp it up at a federal level.

[Muboshi]

@The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp

Wow those are some good pointers

[The Reformed American Republic]

@"The Reformed American Republic" I'm sorry I'm really stupid, but what do you mean by Trump reacting slowly to the pandemic.

He downplayed the pandemic from day one, claimed he had it under control when he didn't, and was generally slow to consider the pandemic a threat. And he liked to promote misinformation, such as pushing people to oppose face masks, to dodgy medical advice.

[Galloism]

@"The Reformed American Republic" I'm sorry I'm really stupid, but what do you mean by Trump reacting slowly to the pandemic.

He downplayed the pandemic from day one, claimed he had it under control when he didn't, and was generally slow to consider the pandemic a threat. And he liked to promote misinformation, such as pushing people to oppose face masks, to dodgy medical advice.

"Dodgy" is super kind.

[The Reformed American Republic]

He downplayed the pandemic from day one, claimed he had it under control when he didn't, and was generally slow to consider the pandemic a threat. And he liked to promote misinformation, such as pushing people to oppose face masks, to dodgy medical advice.

"Dodgy" is super kind.

Hydroxychloroquine was the most sane thing he promoted, and even that is questionable. He proposed injecting disinfectant, infusing the body with UV light, using old vaccines for other pathogens, etc. Just absolutely insane, but some people think otherwise.

[Muboshi]

@"Borderlands of Rojava"
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeahhh.

I hate the pandemic I wish we found out sooner so maybe the virus wouldve went away by now but nooooooooooooo we had to find out sooner when the virus was stronger

[Seangoli]

"Dodgy" is super kind.

Hydroxychloroquine was the most sane thing he promoted, and even that is questionable. He proposed injecting disinfectant, infusing the boy with UV light, using old vaccines for other pathogens, etc. Just absolutely insane, but some people think otherwise.

HCQ at least a body of research involving it's anti-viral properties, and was worth exploring.

Him going full-ham on it as a miracle cure was beyond idiotic, however. Turns out it's effect is only marginal, at best, and required extremely high doses to have any effect at all. It could, hypothetically, be used profylactically, however that would require a huge amount of HCQ, for a marginal benefit withong term health consequences that likely would have nullified any benefit it provided.

It was worth exploring, but it's hardly a wonder drug for COVID fighting.

[Esthe]

"Dodgy" is super kind.

Hydroxychloroquine was the most sane thing he promoted, and even that is questionable. He proposed injecting disinfectant, infusing the body with UV light, using old vaccines for other pathogens, etc. Just absolutely insane, but some people think otherwise.

Also the bleach incident.