American Politics Thread V: We're Just Biden Our Time ...

[Farnhamia]

Ya big silly. You don’t speak conservative. Anything that pays a salary; no matter how small is a good job! You just have to work many so you can pull yourself up by your boot straps.

They still live in the myth of economic prosperity of the 50s.

I am not good with printed sarcasm. so [/s]

No one is. And you're not good with nested quotes, either.

[The Black Forrest]

Ya big silly. You don’t speak conservative. Anything that pays a salary; no matter how small is a good job! You just have to work many so you can pull yourself up by your boot straps.

They still live in the myth of economic prosperity of the 50s.

I am not good with printed sarcasm. so [/s]

No one is. And you're not good with nested quotes, either.

Oh mother……

[Kowani]

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) signs law removing the criminal history box on all college applications

[Picairn]

Just because you keep repeating fallacies doesn't mean they will someday become true.

Just because you keep repeating propaganda and plugging your ears from actual facts doesn't mean that your BS will become reality.

The bottom line is Putin was already in Syria when Trump entered office. Putin entered Syria on Obama's watch. You seem to forget that. You also seem to forget that Obama refused to arm Ukraine, Trump supplied Ukraine with lethal aid. You forget that Obama gutted the US military while Putin expanded the Russian military. Trump significantly boosted spending on the US military. And you forgot to mention that Putin invaded Crimea AND Ukraine on Obama's watch.

All debunked. Read the damn links.

Btw, Russia and the USA were both targeting ISIS in Syria. Destroying ISIS was Trump's primary objective in the Middle East, not removing Russia. He stated as much repeatedly on the campaign trail.

Nope.

“We’re keeping the oil. We have the oil. The oil is secure. We left troops behind only for the oil,” Trump said.

In addition, Kim tested a H-bomb that he developed on Obama's watch. Also, Kim tested the bomb before the reproachment with Trump. After meeting with Trump, Kim stood down. North Korea didn't test anymore nukes, they didn't lob artillery shells into South Korea, they didn't sink any South Korea naval vessels, etc.

But keep repeating fallacies, maybe that will work on ill informed people.

Keep repeating propaganda, you wouldn't even convince anyone of your BS.

May 4, 2019: North Korea tests a salvo of rockets and a short-range ballistic missile that has not been tested before.

May 9, 2019: North Korea test fires two short-range ballistic missiles, including the new missile tested May 4.

July 25, 2019: North Korea tests two short-range ballistic missiles believed to be the KN-23. North Korea reports that the tests are successful.

August 6, 2019: North Korea condemns the joint United States and South Korean joint military exercise, 19-2 Dong Maeng, which began on August 5. North Korea’s official statement outlines that “constructive dialogue cannot be expected at a time when a simulated war practice targeted at the dialogue partner is being conducted.”

North Korea tests two short-range ballistic missiles believed to be KN-23 designs, similar to those tested in late July. North Korea reports that the tests are successful.

August 10, 2019: North Korea test fires two short-range missiles of unknown design. Experts assess that the missile is a single-stage solid-fueled “quasi-ballistic” missile considered to be more advanced than the KN-23 model.

August 16, 2019: North Korea test launches two short-range projectiles. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un observed the launch and reported a “perfect result.”

August 24, 2019: North Korea successfully tests two short-range ballistic missiles.

September 10, 2019: North Korea launches two missiles, testing a 600m multiple rocket launcher system (MLRS), according to South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff. Images released by North Korea suggests a third missile was launched.

October 2, 2019: North Korea tests its new submarine-launched ballistic missile, the Pukkuksong-3. The missile flies 450km and marks North Korea’s first SLBM test since August 2016.

November 29, 2019: North Korea tests a Super-large Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), overseen by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

January 1, 2020: The Korean Central News Agency releases a report on the 5th Plenary Meeting of the 7th Central Committee of the Worker’s Party of Korea, chaired by North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. At the meeting, which lasted four days, Kim announced that Pyongyang would no longer be “unilaterally bound” to any former concessions made, including the long-range missile and nuclear test moratorium, and that North Korea would be “chilling [its] efforts for worldwide nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation.” Kim also announced that North Korea would pursue a “new strategic weapon.”

March 1, 2020: North Korea launches two short-range projectiles, believed to be the KN-25, in its first test launch of 2020.

March 9, 2020: North Korea conducts a test launch of three projectiles, South Korea’s Defense Ministry reports. According to a South Korean official, North Korea’s repeated launches could be part of “joint strike drills that include multiple types of multiple rocket launchers.”

The test is assumed to be of the KN-25, marking the sixth recorded test of the missile.

March 21, 2020: North Korea tests two short-range ballistic missiles, believed to be the KN-24.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un oversees the tests and calls them “remarkably great,” according to the Korean Central News Agency.

March 30, 2020: North Korea launches two short-range ballistic missiles, believed to be the KN-25, marking its fourth missile test of the year.

April 14, 2020: North Korea tests a series of short-range missiles. According to preliminary assessments by South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff, the test marks North Korea's first launch of a cruise missile in nearly three years.

[Punished UMN]

North Korea wouldn't give up their one major piece of leverage over China, that would be stupid.

[The Black Forrest]

Your narrative collapses utterly, juxtaposed the shortage of American workers for SKILLED jobs in math and computer sciences. In no small part because of the failure of America's leftist public education monopoly.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/10/study-e ... rkers.html

You are massavily assuming they are concerned about the local work force. The problem is not their abilities; the problem is their CoL. The free market types want the most highly skilled labor at the cheapest price possible. Which if you noticed goes against the ethic of making something of yourself as you will cost too much. Anyway an example:

During the off shoring craze of St. Reagan and Poppy Bush; my company at the time setup shop in India. We got rid of the local labor as it “lacked the desired skills” required. It was so blatant as people were asking well how did you get by for all the years you were using them?

Now our group was in Bangalore. They were always behind on the design specs as they ignored the changes as they would impact their output. The coding was so pisspoor they ended up setting up a new group to rewrite their work. Of course it was over priced consultants and their work would get slowly strangled by the cheaper better labor in India. Talk to the execs who tended to be Republian and conservative; it was the best thing ever and they saved all sorts of money.

Even in my last job; I needed a couple people as I was the support for North America and there was a great deal hands on work for the corporate HQ complex. I was told I could get three workers in India and hand off the design work so I could support the desktop support work. This off course would have led to my lay off as I cost too much for the work I would have done. I eventually did as it was apparent I wasn’t going to take the hit for the team.

And let's get serious, a company will not forego a young candidate who could give them decades of productivity. In many cases, companies will train untested candidates and train them on the job. In fact, the opposite may be the case, your anecdotal "evidence" notwithstanding.[/

https://www.propublica.org/article/face ... -targeting

Oh this one again. Hate to tell you youngling that’s old news. Older tech workers understand that and been eliminating things which age them. You see I once believed in the free market and saw after the recent layoff that experience was not respected or desired. The funny thing is the endless quest for the college graduate who has 10+ years of architect design. Even I noticed the lack of interviews with the resume scanners. One I removed the dates from school and removed previous jobs; they picked up dramatically. They just get disappointed as I fit the 30 years experience but don’t have the 20 year old body.

Many jobs that are “unfulfilled” are due to irrational expectations.

In addition, good paying jobs in manufacturing are unfilled because of the failure of America's education system

https://www.mcl.bz/blog/skilled-labor-s ... ufacturers

In sum, there are plenty of good jobs out there. Unfortunately, potential workers are siphoned off to a lifetime of debt and a worthless degree from a government run diploma mill that only enriches leftist professors.

Oh it’s because of the degree and not of course because the conservatives sending manufacturing overseas.

Sorry youngling. The schtick has been done before.

[Alcala-Cordel]

If you want to blame someone, blame the leftist government education monopoly that has motivated, intelligent and energetic kids entering the system and twelve years later they can't write a coherent paragraph or cite the three branches of the federal government.

Leftists and even some liberals have been campaigning to revamp the outdated education system for decades now, but it hasn't passed because it takes tax money and that's bad. Spending tax dollars (on anything but the army, whose budget is bloated beyond comprehension) is "big government".

That means, the left has utterly failed to educate students despite having them for 7 hours a day for 12 years.

Do you check for leftists in your closet and under your bed before you go to sleep?

[Picairn]

"Leftists indoctrinate children in schools" becomes even more hilarious when you point out that schools are run by states and local communities, whose partisan control varies entity-by-entity. Even the federal K-12 education program is primarily giving funds to the states' public schools, not running them directly. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/ ... x.html?exp

[Azalfia]

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) signs law removing the criminal history box on all college applications

I support removing the box. For if one was in prison, all humans deserve a second chance. Especially over, in the situation at least in the states, if there crime was smoking weed.

[The Black Forrest]

"Leftists indoctrinate children in schools" becomes even more hilarious when you point out that schools are run by states and local communities, whose partisan control varies entity-by-entity. Even the federal K-12 education program is primarily giving funds to the states' public schools, not running them directly. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/ ... x.html?exp

Oh don’t be hurting the false narrative. One of our friends graduated from UC Berkeley with an econ degree. She will tell you there were liberals, a marxist, a few lefties and the conservatives. They all argued like hell and yet they still managed to teach. They even managed to teach theories they didn’t agree with. Even the Marxist was well known and known for wanting to argue with anybody was liked. He made you think as parroting arguments would be demolished as you had had to be able to defend your stance. Did he punish students who disagreed with him or disliked him? Nope. You did the work and if you did it well you were rewarded.

[The Black Forrest]

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D) signs law removing the criminal history box on all college applications

I support removing the box. For if one was in prison, all humans deserve a second chance. Especially over, in the situation at least in the states, if there crime was smoking weed.

Well? One could argue for released on parole.

Now if you served your sentence? You deserve a clean start.

[Punished UMN]

"Leftists indoctrinate children in schools" becomes even more hilarious when you point out that schools are run by states and local communities, whose partisan control varies entity-by-entity. Even the federal K-12 education program is primarily giving funds to the states' public schools, not running them directly. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/ ... x.html?exp

Oh don’t be hurting the false narrative. One of our friends graduated from UC Berkeley with an econ degree. She will tell you there were liberals, a marxist, a few lefties and the conservatives. They all argued like hell and yet they still managed to teach. They even managed to teach theories they didn’t agree with. Even the Marxist was well known and known for wanting to argue with anybody was liked. He made you think as parroting arguments would be demolished as you had had to be able to defend your stance. Did he punish students who disagreed with him or disliked him? Nope. You did the work and if you did it well you were rewarded.

"Leftists dominate academia" is a common stance among people who have never had in-depth interactions with academics.

[Picairn]

Oh don’t be hurting the false narrative. One of our friends graduated from UC Berkeley with an econ degree. She will tell you there were liberals, a marxist, a few lefties and the conservatives. They all argued like hell and yet they still managed to teach. They even managed to teach theories they didn’t agree with. Even the Marxist was well known and known for wanting to argue with anybody was liked. He made you think as parroting arguments would be demolished as you had had to be able to defend your stance. Did he punish students who disagreed with him or disliked him? Nope. You did the work and if you did it well you were rewarded.

Economics is one of the fields that conservative professors have a larger representation. https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... ge_Faculty

[Neutraligon]

@Yeerosland
I cited my mom because she was a doctor and it's basic common sense to know that breathing in your own carbon is bad for you.

Again you mean "carbon dioxide" but you only bother saying "carbon". Now that you're doubling down, and again with the imputation "your" carbon is different from someone else's carbon, it is time to take you to primary school. Carbon is a motherfucking element. One atom of carbon is chemically identical to any other atom of carbon, and completely different from any atom that is NOT carbon. You can find a stricter definition of "element" if you're interested, but I suspect you're not.

You should not trust your common sense. Particularly concerning things that could kill you. But I'm not your mom.

I would like you to check with your mom. You seem sure that she told you carbon dioxide (or "carbon") is straight out poisonous, but I think you're probably remembering it wrong. And since you reject evolution as an explanation, perhaps give some thought to why the Lord would have designed humans in such a way that our breath was poisonous to ourselves and others. Did He have in Mind for us, that we should each live on a mountaintop where our foul exhalations would be quickly whipped away by the chilly mountain breeze?

And if He did, why did he not equip us with anuses like some animals, to make nice round poops that are never squishy? The faithful would never have needed to discover toilets, or even toilet paper, if they could just squat and their gifts to nature would just roll away downhill!

To be fair, there are different forms of carbon depending on neutron count...

[Neutraligon]

Nuking China would literally save the planet. Just like eating 100 CEOs would. You think I’m joking but I’m not.

It would be a war crime to do that and would start a nuclear war. so let's not.

Overfishing is actually a pretty big problem. Bycatching and pollution from fishing itself, in addition to the actual desired catches, is devastating fish populations across the world. Add onto that the mass die off of plankton and ocean acidification and it's some really scary shit.

I say we stop commercial fishing for several years and if we wont do that ban the giant trawlers. If that leads to shortages in the supermarket too bad.

You know that 3worry you have over actors and the like losing their jobs? Yeah where is your concern over the fishermen losing their jobs?

[Alcala-Cordel]

Has anyone else ever thought about the irony of self-described free thinkers using the slogan "where we go one we go all" as a way of identifying as qult members? You know what else travels like that? Herd animals. Sheep.

[Rusozak]

Has anyone else ever thought about how the irony of self-described free thinkers using the slogan "where we go one we go all" as a way of identifying as qult members? You know what else travels like that? Herd animals. Sheep.

There's been a lot of that going around. People calling others mindless sheep then waiting for the man in orange to tell them what to think. Just projecting their own insecurities.

[Tarsonis]

The first two are great ideas. Nuking Beijing is not.

Nuking China would literally save the planet. Just like eating 100 CEOs would. You think I’m joking but I’m not.

There's not enough garlic and pepper in the world to make Bezos palatable.

[Atheris]

Has anyone else ever thought about how the irony of self-described free thinkers using the slogan "where we go one we go all" as a way of identifying as qult members? You know what else travels like that? Herd animals. Sheep.

I'm so sorry. I know you're trying to make an actual point but whenever I see the phrase "self-proclaimed free thinkers" I can't help but think of those I, Robot memes.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Has anyone else ever thought about how the irony of self-described free thinkers using the slogan "where we go one we go all" as a way of identifying as qult members? You know what else travels like that? Herd animals. Sheep.

I'm so sorry. I know you're trying to make an actual point but whenever I see the phrase "self-proclaimed free thinkers" I can't help but think of those I, Robot memes.

Those memes are probably why I phrased it that way

[Bombadil]

I'll probably find source for this in a bit but..

The final item that jumps out from the day is a story out of Florida. A recorded phone conversation apparently shows Republican William Braddock, who is running for Congress, threatening to hire assassins to eliminate his main opponent in the race, Anna Paulina Luna, who won the primary last year but lost the election to Democrat Charlie Crist. The conservative activist to whom Braddock was speaking recorded him saying that he has access to a “Russian and Ukrainian hit squad” and that “for the good of our country, we have to sacrifice the few.” “I am in deep, I will admit that,” he allegedly said. “If I lose, I’m going to have to move out of the country. But if I win, I’m going to help make a difference for everyone in the country.”

Link

[Sincluda]

"Leftists indoctrinate children in schools" becomes even more hilarious when you point out that schools are run by states and local communities, whose partisan control varies entity-by-entity. Even the federal K-12 education program is primarily giving funds to the states' public schools, not running them directly. https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/ ... x.html?exp

This is why we have upper-class exclusive private schools

[Alcala-Cordel]

I'll probably find source for this in a bit but..

The final item that jumps out from the day is a story out of Florida. A recorded phone conversation apparently shows Republican William Braddock, who is running for Congress, threatening to hire assassins to eliminate his main opponent in the race, Anna Paulina Luna, who won the primary last year but lost the election to Democrat Charlie Crist. The conservative activist to whom Braddock was speaking recorded him saying that he has access to a “Russian and Ukrainian hit squad” and that “for the good of our country, we have to sacrifice the few.” “I am in deep, I will admit that,” he allegedly said. “If I lose, I’m going to have to move out of the country. But if I win, I’m going to help make a difference for everyone in the country.”

Link

He might wanna get started on that bit where he moves out of the country now

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I'll probably find source for this in a bit but..

The final item that jumps out from the day is a story out of Florida. A recorded phone conversation apparently shows Republican William Braddock, who is running for Congress, threatening to hire assassins to eliminate his main opponent in the race, Anna Paulina Luna, who won the primary last year but lost the election to Democrat Charlie Crist. The conservative activist to whom Braddock was speaking recorded him saying that he has access to a “Russian and Ukrainian hit squad” and that “for the good of our country, we have to sacrifice the few.” “I am in deep, I will admit that,” he allegedly said. “If I lose, I’m going to have to move out of the country. But if I win, I’m going to help make a difference for everyone in the country.”

Link

I hope it isn't him in the recording, but if it is he should be arrested and put in for at least 10 years.

[Kowani]

I'll probably find source for this in a bit but..

The final item that jumps out from the day is a story out of Florida. A recorded phone conversation apparently shows Republican William Braddock, who is running for Congress, threatening to hire assassins to eliminate his main opponent in the race, Anna Paulina Luna, who won the primary last year but lost the election to Democrat Charlie Crist. The conservative activist to whom Braddock was speaking recorded him saying that he has access to a “Russian and Ukrainian hit squad” and that “for the good of our country, we have to sacrifice the few.” “I am in deep, I will admit that,” he allegedly said. “If I lose, I’m going to have to move out of the country. But if I win, I’m going to help make a difference for everyone in the country.”

Link

I gotta start doing an end of the day recap or something…