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Postby Skelly Man Dan » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:19 pm

Heloin wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Nixon was pretty good. If it wasn’t for him we wouldn’t have had the EPA and OSHA

Nixon's name deserves to be dragged in the mud until we eventually reach the day when even what a United States was is forgotten, but I will give him that Nixon did give the EPA the teeth it needed to actually create the change.


Learning about Nixon is a cycle:
-“Watergate? Wow, what a horrible president.”
-“Oh, I didn’t know he did that, maybe he’s not so bad…”
-“Southern Strategy? Wow, what a horrible president.”
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:19 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:Pretty much. As Rachel Maddow said, “I'm undoubtedly a liberal, which means that I'm in almost total agreement with the Eisenhower-era Republican party platform.”

i wouldn't call eisenhower good
definitely better than most of what followed, and genuinely cared for the country
but damn if he didn't fuck it up in the most insidious way possible


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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:20 pm

Skelly Man Dan wrote:
Heloin wrote:Nixon's name deserves to be dragged in the mud until we eventually reach the day when even what a United States was is forgotten, but I will give him that Nixon did give the EPA the teeth it needed to actually create the change.


Learning about Nixon is a cycle:
-“Watergate? Wow, what a horrible president.”
-“Oh, I didn’t know he did that, maybe he’s no so bad…”
-“Southern Strategy? Wow, what a horrible president.”


-He was racist to black people, the Irish, Jews and Italians? What a bigot.

-he used the war on drugs to wage a war on black people? Even worse.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:21 pm

Skelly Man Dan wrote:
Heloin wrote:Nixon's name deserves to be dragged in the mud until we eventually reach the day when even what a United States was is forgotten, but I will give him that Nixon did give the EPA the teeth it needed to actually create the change.


Learning about Nixon is a cycle:
-“Watergate? Wow, what a horrible president.”
-“Oh, I didn’t know he did that, maybe he’s no so bad…”
-“Southern Strategy? Wow, what a horrible president.”

it's like that wojak meme with the iq bell curve graph

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Kowani wrote:i wouldn't call eisenhower good
definitely better than most of what followed, and genuinely cared for the country
but damn if he didn't fuck it up in the most insidious way possible


Iran 1953.

that was in my list of "bad things ike did" further down the page :p
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:21 pm

Page wrote:Cool how Juneteenth is now an official holiday and the government showed how much they care by establishing Medicare for All to help black people who are most marginalized by the health care system, legalized weed to put an end to racist enforcement, and taxed billionaires to uplift the people of color who are still suffering the wealth disparity that has persisted since the end of slavery.

Wait, I was wrong, it's just the holiday, none of those other things.

Can't wait for suicide prevention week where my social media timeline will be covered by people talking about "awareness" and not the leading cause of suicide, capitalism!

And even this is too much for people. Far right weirdos are mad that there are too many holidays in summer now.


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Very much this. A strong link can be drawn between the failing of American capitalism for the average person and the suicide rate as well as alcohol or drug related deaths.

So you're telling me drinking more doesn't actually make the problems go away?

Depends what the problem is. Drinking's great for thirst. Or boredom.


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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:23 pm

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can you explain us what is the scientific method please ?


Whatever Trump says is 100% true and not to be questioned.

Really, I thought it was the other way around, :) lol.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:25 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Whatever Trump says is 100% true and not to be questioned.

Really, I thought it was the other way around, :) lol.


can you kindly show your evidence of fraud or will you finally admit its an opinion of your because you can't accept Trump lost?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:26 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:Dude, we all have a democratic right to strongly disagree with each other with personal respect to each other, especially on NS, if we do, on Republican President Trump, the 2016 election results, my native Cuba and all issues, it is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, It is called different, economic, political and social views, it is called Politics and Human Nature. I Practice it with Pride and Honor, it is on my Sig, Please read my Sig if any of you wish, I cant force you or any Persons to read my Sig, I GMS am A Proud Republican with Proud Republican Views, and there is nothing wrong with it, all of us are, including Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA, with Pride and Honor. I don't have any Problems with Persons who disagree with me. I Practice what I Preach with Pride and Honor. I Rest My Case and I Rest Our Case. We stand by all our Posts and Views.


Yeah, I don't care. You've demonstrated multiple times that you can't be trusted to be reasonable. You have no metric for truth beyond supporting Trump. Engaging with you is an exercise in futility, and only serves to derail the thread. At this point, the entire forum would be better suited putting you on ignore. It's a sad state of affairs when self avowed fascists are more reasonable in their discourse than you are.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:30 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Yeah, I don't care. You've demonstrated multiple times that you can't be trusted to be reasonable. You have no metric for truth beyond supporting Trump. Engaging with you is an exercise in futility, and only serves to derail the thread. At this point, the entire forum would be better suited putting you on ignore. It's a sad state of affairs when self avowed fascists are more reasonable in their discourse than you are.

I have to answer this one. No one on NS agrees with any Persons they disagree with. It is called a Real debate. The same rules apply to me, you and all of us, on and off NS and Discord, I Rest My Case. :) lol.


No, it is not called a debate. That is not something you do because you never accept the possibility that you might be wrong. You're here to spread propaganda, not debate.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:30 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:34 pm


it would be very ironic if they didn't adjust for turnout and ended up fucking up their gerrymanders

also, the fact that they can say the quiet part aloud should be more worrying than it is
it's not just that they're too dumb to hide it
it's that they don't need to
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I have to answer this one. No one on NS agrees with any Persons they disagree with. It is called a Real debate. The same rules apply to me, you and all of us, on and off NS and Discord, I Rest My Case. :) lol.


No, it is not called a debate. That is not something you do because you never accept the possibility that you might be wrong. You're here to spread propaganda, not debate.

lol, who tells us we are always wrong and they are always right on all issues, for over 10 Years on NS? I am not lying. I Rest My Case and I Rest Our Case. Peace over and out?
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:49 pm

Kowani wrote:

it would be very ironic if they didn't adjust for turnout and ended up fucking up their gerrymanders

also, the fact that they can say the quiet part aloud should be more worrying than it is
it's not just that they're too dumb to hide it
it's that they don't need to

Yep, that is indeed a cause for serious concern. The GOP base won't be upset by such statements (but will rather celebrate them), and the Democratic base don't have the power to stop them.

This coming election season, we shouldn't be surprised if, in some districts, there's races to see who can openly hold the most anti-democratic and authoritarian opinions.
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:50 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No, it is not called a debate. That is not something you do because you never accept the possibility that you might be wrong. You're here to spread propaganda, not debate.

lol, who tells us we are always wrong and they are always right on all issues, for over 10 Years on NS? I am not lying. Peace over and out?


Do you understand the difference between fact and opinion?

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Postby Skelly Man Dan » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:53 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, who tells us we are always wrong and they are always right on all issues, for over 10 Years on NS? I am not lying. Peace over and out?


A Flat Earther would also complain that no one agrees with them and that everyone’s sources are biased.
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"We can't win fairly so we'll just commit border gore to win."
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:56 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


"We can't win fairly so we'll just commit border gore to win."

and set the stage to overturn elections when we don't.

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Postby Heloin » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:56 pm

Page wrote:TIL that as I am an anarchist the feds officially consider me a "DVE", domestic violence extremist. Lol.

Welcome to the club!

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:06 pm

Skelly Man Dan wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, who tells us we are always wrong and they are always right on all issues, for over 10 Years on NS? I am not lying. Peace over and out?


A Flat Earther would also complain that no one agrees with them and that everyone’s sources are biased.

lol, this what the leftists and anti Trump Persons say to me and us all the time. That's what the lefitsts and anti Trump Persons say to me and us for over 10 Years, so I figure you agree with me and agree with us, cool dude. Peace over and out.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:08 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Skelly Man Dan wrote:
A Flat Earther would also complain that no one agrees with them and that everyone’s sources are biased.

lol, this what the leftists and anti Trump Persons say to me and us all the time. That's what the lefitsts and anti Trump Persons say to me and us for over 10 Years, so I figure you must agree with me, cool dude. Peace over and out.


and once again you post your talking points and propaganda and write another phrase when people question you and ask to explain beyond your canned answers. At least your consistent.

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Postby Gravlen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
"We can't win fairly so we'll just commit border gore to win."

and set the stage to overturn elections when we don't.

Like in Arkansas, where the GOP legislature is enacting laws giving a GOP-controlled state board power to “institute corrective action” and “take over and conduct elections” in counties.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:19 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, this what the leftists and anti Trump Persons say to me and us all the time. That's what the lefitsts and anti Trump Persons say to me and us for over 10 Years, so I figure you must agree with me, cool dude. Peace over and out.


and once again you post your talking points and propaganda and write another phrase when people question you and ask to explain beyond your canned answers. At least your consistent.

So what Insy my good Friend. You guys post biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti Trump Talking Points from the biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti Trump, leftist Media, and leftist, liberal, Democratic, Progressive Party, which you guys then believe, Post and Repost. But you get those kinds of Talking Points from the leftist media and leftist Democratic Party as I just described.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:20 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
and once again you post your talking points and propaganda and write another phrase when people question you and ask to explain beyond your canned answers. At least your consistent.

So what Insy my good Friend. You guys post biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti Trump Talking Points from the biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti Trump, leftist Media, and leftist, liberal, Democratic, Progressive Party, which you guys believe, than Post and Repost. But you get those kinds of Talking Points from the leftist media and leftist Democratic Party as I just described.


No you post opinion trying to masquerade it as fact. You don't get the difference and apparently never will.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:25 pm

Gravlen wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and set the stage to overturn elections when we don't.

Like in Arkansas, where the GOP legislature is enacting laws giving a GOP-controlled state board power to “institute corrective action” and “take over and conduct elections” in counties.


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