American Politics Thread V: We're Just Biden Our Time ...

[Borderlands of Rojava]

So being anti-fascist is terrorism in and of itself now?

Biden didn't criminalize anti-fascists, he criminalized anti-capitalist violence as terrorism, and I imagine the document classified white supremacist violence in the same list, if another hadn't already.

Breaking windows at McDonald's is terrorism now? What is the violence in my city, world War III?

[Washington Resistance Army]

So being anti-fascist is terrorism in and of itself now?

Biden didn't criminalize anti-fascists, he criminalized anti-capitalist violence as terrorism, and I imagine the document classified white supremacist violence in the same list, if another hadn't already.

The problem people have is these things aren't even remotely on the same level. White supremacists are pretty regularly killing large groups of people. The same can't really be said for anti-capitalist groups, who are mostly content to grumble about how they were right and that capitalism doomed us. It feels very bothsides from the administration.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

Biden didn't criminalize anti-fascists, he criminalized anti-capitalist violence as terrorism, and I imagine the document classified white supremacist violence in the same list, if another hadn't already.

Breaking windows at McDonald's is terrorism now? What is the violence in my city, world War III?

That's barely violence, and, unless done because the perpetrator wanted to destroy capitalism, not anti-capitalist(I admit, I probably should have specified it's violence directed at dismantling capitalism). Violence is defined as:

behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

Considering most of the words here, such as hurt and kill, imply damage towards humans and other living things, so the person would have to actively try to kill someone, and also have their goal be to stand against capitalism.

[Ifreann]

I don't think you can "criminalize" antifa, but if anyone decides to bash someone without provocation, they should go to prison for decades.

That's not really the job of the federal government anyhow. British Parliament doesn't waste time focusing on football hooliganism and meanwhile our government is worried about Rose City Antifa, a glorified crew. They're worried because of the ideas groups like them push. Not the violence which isn't shit compared to some of the random violence that happens in our inner cities everyday.

2016: House of Commons debates football hooliganism in light of outbreaks of violence between England fans and police in Marseille.

[The Reformed American Republic]

What is the violence in my city, world War III?

Something that needs to be addressed. Of course, we need a more competent administration to do it, but still. I would invest in social programs and have the gang leaders arrested. To be honest though, some Antifas do much more than smash windows, like put people in the hospital, which is why I have the positions I do.

I don't support Biden, so my opinion probably doesn't mean much. I do hope that someone worth voting for turns up.

[Kowani]

Man arrested, charged with assaulting California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D)

A man accused of assaulting California Gov. Gavin Newsom at an event in Oakland has been arrested, authorities said Friday.

Newsom was walking to a pizza shop to promote small businesses Thursday morning when he "was approached by an aggressive individual," the California Highway Patrol, which provides Newsom's security detail, said in a statement.

Newsom did not appear to have been injured. The East Bay Times reported that the suspect threw a water bottle at the governor.

"Members of the Governor's security detail removed the Governor from the situation, and the individual was arrested by CHP officers," the agency said. The suspect was arrested based on allegations of assaulting a public official and resisting an officer.

The 54-year-old man was booked at Santa Rita Jail, CHP said, but there was no online record of him there Friday afternoon.

A woman who said she's the suspect’s sister described him as a homeless man who suffers from mental illness. The allegations were "consistent with his past behavior," she told Associated Press.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Biden didn't criminalize anti-fascists, he criminalized anti-capitalist violence as terrorism, and I imagine the document classified white supremacist violence in the same list, if another hadn't already.

The problem people have is these things aren't even remotely on the same level. White supremacists are pretty regularly killing large groups of people. The same can't really be said for anti-capitalist groups, who are mostly content to grumble about how they were right and that capitalism doomed us. It feels very bothsides from the administration.

Well, that is true for a bit. I don't like him going after those who simply are anti-globalist or anti-corporate, as I fall into those categories. With that being said, actual violent groups who attack civilians do need to be opposed.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

That's not really the job of the federal government anyhow. British Parliament doesn't waste time focusing on football hooliganism and meanwhile our government is worried about Rose City Antifa, a glorified crew. They're worried because of the ideas groups like them push. Not the violence which isn't shit compared to some of the random violence that happens in our inner cities everyday.

2016: House of Commons debates football hooliganism in light of outbreaks of violence between England fans and police in Marseille.

Why?

[The Reformed American Republic]

2016: House of Commons debates football hooliganism in light of outbreaks of violence between England fans and police in Marseille.

Why?

Violence is of a national concern, sorry.

[Ifreann]

2016: House of Commons debates football hooliganism in light of outbreaks of violence between England fans and police in Marseille.

Why?

Because UEFA was threatening to kick teams out of the competition if they didn't get their fans under control. Britain doesn't really have a level of government below national that could be expected to handle football hooliganism, if it becomes a serious problem, in the way that the US could leave Portland to the Oregon state government without Biden declaring antifa to be public enemy number 1 or whatever.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Why?

Violence is of a national concern, sorry.

They're football firms. This doesn't seem like the primary concern of a national government.

[Kowani]

Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) says Trump wants to be Speaker of the House

[Picairn]

Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) says Trump wants to be Speaker of the House

Crap, does that mean Trump is gonna run for a Congressional seat?

[Thermodolia]

Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) says Trump wants to be Speaker of the House

Crap, does that mean Trump is gonna run for a Congressional seat?

He doesn’t have to. The constitution does not require that a speaker be a member of the House of Representatives

[The Reformed American Republic]

Violence is of a national concern, sorry.

They're football firms. This doesn't seem like the primary concern of a national government.

I don't expect them to be primary concerns. If I was in government, groups like the more violent sections of Antifa or local gangs probably would be far from my top 50-100 issues I needed to address (even suppressing Atomwaffen being a much bigger priority), but that wouldn't mean I wouldn't try to push something through on my spare time. It appears that Britain is the same way. Lots of things get debated in governments.

[Tarsonis]

Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) says Trump wants to be Speaker of the House

Crap, does that mean Trump is gonna run for a Congressional seat?

But where though? he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning in NYC

[Kowani]

Crap, does that mean Trump is gonna run for a Congressional seat?

But where though? he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning in NYC

irrelevant
for one thing, you don't have to have a seat to be speaker
for another, even f he did run for a seat, you don't have to live in the district you represent, just the state
and finally, trump's prrimary legal residence is in florida

[Borderlands of Rojava]

But where though? he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning in NYC

irrelevant
for one thing, you don't have to have a seat to be speaker
for another, even f he did run for a seat, you don't have to live in the district you represent, just the state
and finally, trump's prrimary legal residence is in florida

This is nightmare fuel and political gore at its worst.

[Galloism]

Crap, does that mean Trump is gonna run for a Congressional seat?

He doesn’t have to. The constitution does not require that a speaker be a member of the House of Representatives

Excuse me, can someone stop this train, I would like to get off.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Crap, does that mean Trump is gonna run for a Congressional seat?

He doesn’t have to. The constitution does not require that a speaker be a member of the House of Representatives

How does this work lmao?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Crap, does that mean Trump is gonna run for a Congressional seat?

He doesn’t have to. The constitution does not require that a speaker be a member of the House of Representatives

What the fuck?

[Heloin]

He doesn’t have to. The constitution does not require that a speaker be a member of the House of Representatives

What the fuck?

America is a silly place.

[The Black Forrest]

Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) says Trump wants to be Speaker of the House

Crap, does that mean Trump is gonna run for a Congressional seat?

Nahh. As usual McCarthy is talking out of his ass.

Trump likes to be in charge and he can’t handle people telling him to fuck off. Speaker sounds cool but he doesn’t have the ability to force the democrats to do anything and that alone would drive him nuts.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

He doesn’t have to. The constitution does not require that a speaker be a member of the House of Representatives

How does this work lmao?

I guess the House can name everyone they want speaker if they elect them, they just always or almost always choose their members. Kinda like there's no requirement for the supreme court, but people who studied law almost always get named.

[Omniabstracta]

He doesn’t have to. The constitution does not require that a speaker be a member of the House of Representatives

What the fuck?

It’s not that it’s something really explicitly allowed, it’s that the Framers assumed that no legislative body in its right mind would a) want to pick an outsider to lead or be an officer in its own chamber and b) would pick somebody entirely unelected to lead the one chamber that supposedly represents the will of the people. And to be fair, they were right for most of American history, but we live in special times, I suppose.