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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:57 am

San Lumen wrote:A law gets passed that outlaws same sex marriage and adoption in total violation of that Supreme Court decision?

This law then goes to the SCOTUS and the 7 to 2 GOP majority says the 14th doesn't apply to the gays in this case. That law now stands and a new law (precedence) is made.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:57 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:America spent most of the 1900's pretending that the 14th didn't apply to a lot of people. America can do it again at the stroke of a pen.


How? A law gets passed that outlaws same sex marriage and adoption in total violation of that Supreme Court decision? If it was that easy why didn’t Republicans pass such a law in 2017?

States are passing laws right now that make abortion basically illegal should the Supreme Court rule that such laws are constitutional.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:59 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:A law gets passed that outlaws same sex marriage and adoption in total violation of that Supreme Court decision?

This law then goes to the SCOTUS and the 7 to 2 GOP majority says the 14th doesn't apply to the gays in this case. That law now stands and a new law (precedence) is made.


Why didn’t Republicans do that it 2017?

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:59 am

Neutraligon wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
How? A law gets passed that outlaws same sex marriage and adoption in total violation of that Supreme Court decision? If it was that easy why didn’t Republicans pass such a law in 2017?

States are passing laws right now that make abortion basically illegal should the Supreme Court rule that such laws are constitutional.

And if they do it will backfire massively on Republicans.

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:This law then goes to the SCOTUS and the 7 to 2 GOP majority says the 14th doesn't apply to the gays in this case. That law now stands and a new law (precedence) is made.


Why didn’t Republicans do that it 2017?

The water is being tested with abortion... as we speak.
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Neutraligon wrote:States are passing laws right now that make abortion basically illegal should the Supreme Court rule that such laws are constitutional.

And if they do it will backfire massively on Republicans.

And who votes for the GOP? Not you at least.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:00 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why didn’t Republicans do that it 2017?

The water is being tested with abortion... as we speak.

And you’d have a Supreme Court completely out of touch with public opinion.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:01 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:The water is being tested with abortion... as we speak.

And you’d have a Supreme Court completely out of touch with public opinion.

Well you got 7 GOP justices vs 2... guess what abortion is gonna be illegal.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:02 am

San Lumen wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:States are passing laws right now that make abortion basically illegal should the Supreme Court rule that such laws are constitutional.

And if they do it will backfire massively on Republicans.

How? The people who are pro-choice already tend to vote for Democrats.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:02 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And you’d have a Supreme Court completely out of touch with public opinion.

Well you got 7 GOP justices vs 2... guess what abortion is gonna be illegal.


And you think the majority of woman will just say oh well. It would massively backfire and they’d lose woman voters even more.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:03 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Well you got 7 GOP justices vs 2... guess what abortion is gonna be illegal.


And you think the majority of woman will just say oh well. It would massively backfire and they’d lose woman voters even more.

And. They. Don't. Care.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:03 am

San Lumen wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Well you got 7 GOP justices vs 2... guess what abortion is gonna be illegal.


And you think the majority of woman will just say oh well. It would massively backfire and they’d lose woman voters even more.

No they will not. Those who are strongly pro-choice already do not vote for Republicans for the most part.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:05 am

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San Lumen wrote:
And you think the majority of woman will just say oh well. It would massively backfire and they’d lose woman voters even more.

And. They. Don't. Care.

SL you should take this to heart: None, nada, not even a single one of GOP politicians give a bloody fuck about what you think they should do. They don't even give very many fucks about what half the American population wants.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:05 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
And you think the majority of woman will just say oh well. It would massively backfire and they’d lose woman voters even more.

And. They. Don't. Care.

Republicans will pay for it at the polls then as well as if your scenario of passing a law to outlaw lgbt rights came to pass. Even a majority of Republicans support lgbt rights.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:06 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:And. They. Don't. Care.

Republicans will pay for it at the polls then as well as if your scenario of passing a law to outlaw lgbt rights came to pass. Even a majority of Republicans support lgbt rights.

You hope this will happen. You might even pray for this to happen. But I have my doubts. As do pretty much a sizeable portion of the users on this thread.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:06 am

San Lumen wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:And. They. Don't. Care.

Republicans will pay for it at the polls then as well as if your scenario of passing a law to outlaw lgbt rights came to pass. Even a majority of Republicans support lgbt rights.

No they won't, the people who are already pro-choice don't even vote for them, they're not gonna lose many voters, and frankly don't care.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Republicans will pay for it at the polls then as well as if your scenario of passing a law to outlaw lgbt rights came to pass. Even a majority of Republicans support lgbt rights.

You hope this will happen. You might even pray for this to happen. But I have my doubts. As do pretty much a sizeable portion of the users on this thread.


This thread isn’t the majority. That’s like saying online comments predict elections. They don’t.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:08 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You hope this will happen. You might even pray for this to happen. But I have my doubts. As do pretty much a sizeable portion of the users on this thread.


This thread isn’t the majority. That’s like saying online comments predict elections. They don’t.

You're welcome to your fantasies, but when SCOTUS says gay marriage is now unconstitutional do not come for me.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:08 am

San Lumen wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You hope this will happen. You might even pray for this to happen. But I have my doubts. As do pretty much a sizeable portion of the users on this thread.


This thread isn’t the majority. That’s like saying online comments predict elections. They don’t.

...I do not understand this ...response.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:09 am

Dresderstan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Republicans will pay for it at the polls then as well as if your scenario of passing a law to outlaw lgbt rights came to pass. Even a majority of Republicans support lgbt rights.

No they won't, the people who are already pro-choice don't even vote for them, they're not gonna lose many voters, and frankly don't care.


You honestly think majority of woman would be ok with being forced to carry all children to term and thousands of lgbt couples would be content with their marriages being annulled and their children to longer being legally theirs?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:09 am

Neutraligon wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
This thread isn’t the majority. That’s like saying online comments predict elections. They don’t.

...I do not understand this ...response.

SL probs thinks a majority of Americans are as idealistic as him...
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:10 am

San Lumen wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No they won't, the people who are already pro-choice don't even vote for them, they're not gonna lose many voters, and frankly don't care.


You honestly think majority of woman would be ok with being forced to carry all children to term and thousands of lgbt couples would be content with their marriages being annulled and their children to longer being legally theirs?

You honestly think majority of Republicans care?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:11 am

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Dresderstan wrote:No they won't, the people who are already pro-choice don't even vote for them, they're not gonna lose many voters, and frankly don't care.


You honestly think majority of woman would be ok with being forced to carry all children to term and thousands of lgbt couples would be content with their marriages being annulled and their children to longer being legally theirs?

The majority of women/gays/whatever are not politically active enough and will bend to whatever comes out of DC. Like how a majority of women/gays/whatever bends to whatever the Ecuadorean govt wants.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:11 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
This thread isn’t the majority. That’s like saying online comments predict elections. They don’t.

You're welcome to your fantasies, but when SCOTUS says gay marriage is now unconstitutional do not come for me.

Why didn’t Republicans just outlaw abortion at the federal level in 2017 and do the with Lgbt rights? Seems like it would have been the simple thing to do since they had a majority.

No way Roberts or Gorsch would go for the second considering Gorsch wrote the opinion that ended lgbt discrimination in the workplace.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:19 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You're welcome to your fantasies, but when SCOTUS says gay marriage is now unconstitutional do not come for me.

Why didn’t Republicans just outlaw abortion at the federal level in 2017 and do the with Lgbt rights? Seems like it would have been the simple thing to do since they had a majority.

No way Roberts or Gorsch would go for the second considering Gorsch wrote the opinion that ended lgbt discrimination in the workplace.

Because they were a disorganised mess due to Trump.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:20 am

San Lumen wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:And. They. Don't. Care.

Republicans will pay for it at the polls then as well as if your scenario of passing a law to outlaw lgbt rights came to pass. Even a majority of Republicans support lgbt rights.


Correction: They aren't actively opposed to them. But if the Trump Party decides being gay is bad and outlaws gay marriage, they will totally go along with it.
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