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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:31 pm



And by a wiiide margin too:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ion_recirc

Despite only being 6% of the vote in, McAuliffe has 61.4% of the vote. His nearest competitor? That is Jennifer Carroll Foy at 19.5%.

I'll be watching to see who the GOP will nominate for NJ Governor. I suspect Ciattarelli will win it.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:34 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:So our opinions aren't opinions either, they are Facts lol :)

no, your opinions are lies

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While living off of lines of credit is, in my opinion, incredibly stupid even if one has a lot in assets as collateral to cover it, it's not really something that can be taxed. As for unrealized gains, how can one be taxed on something that has yet to be realized?

Also, while I hate to defend Bloomberg, it's clear well over half of his income was either donated or went towards paying taxes. I'm not sure what the point is on ragging on him unless they think paying foreign taxes or giving to charities isn't something that should be taken into consideration when it comes to how much a person owes.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:36 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:no, your opinions are lies

No Your Opinions are Not Facts.


You don’t know the difference between opinion and fact. There is not two sets of facts not are they partisan.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:01 pm

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Oh, you disagree that foreign adversaries are not fueling polarization in the U.S? Then what do you think is the biggest contributing factor?


As Kowani's pointed out, these deadly flowers grew from seeds that we ourselves planted, not any foreign power. Nations like Russia and China are merely providing support for problems that we ourselves created. The biggest contributing factor to this is the rise of ideological mass media in the 1980s. Yes, newspapers always used to be less then objective in the olden days, but talk radio and TV pundit shows went a step further by gaslighting their viewers and listeners into thinking that all other institutions are wrong and out to destroy your world view and that they alone are telling it like it is. When you have something like this growing in numbers and intensity over two generations, murderous hostility and hatred is the only thing that can result from it.


Ideological media and it's symbiosis with politicians - our most recent ex-president, for example, is a perfect example of extreme partisan media manufacturing a politician.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:06 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:

While living off of lines of credit is, in my opinion, incredibly stupid even if one has a lot in assets as collateral to cover it, it's not really something that can be taxed. As for unrealized gains, how can one be taxed on something that has yet to be realized?

Also, while I hate to defend Bloomberg, it's clear well over half of his income was either donated or went towards paying taxes. I'm not sure what the point is on ragging on him unless they think paying foreign taxes or giving to charities isn't something that should be taken into consideration when it comes to how much a person owes.

I’ll make a thread on this. It deserves its own.
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Kowani wrote:Nevada bans "non-functional grass"

In Sin City, one thing that will soon become unforgivable is useless grass.

A new Nevada law will outlaw about 31% of the grass in the Las Vegas area in an effort to conserve water amid a drought that’s drying up the region’s primary water source: the Colorado River.

Other cities and states around the U.S. have enacted temporary bans on lawns that must be watered, but legislation signed Friday by Gov. Steve Sisolak (D) makes Nevada the first in the nation to enact a permanent ban on certain categories of grass.

Sisolak said last week that anyone flying into Las Vegas viewing the “bathtub rings” that delineate how high Lake Mead’s water levels used to be can see that conservation is needed.

“It’s incumbent upon us for the next generation to be more conscious of conservation and our natural resources — water being particularly important,” he said. The ban targets what the Southern Nevada Water Authority calls “non-functional turf.” It applies to grass that virtually no one uses at office parks, in street medians and at entrances to housing developments. It excludes single-family homes, parks and golf courses.

Nevada Assemblyman Howard Watts III, the bill’s sponsor, said he hopes other western states consider similar action leading up to 2026, when they renegotiate the Colorado River’s Drought Contingency Plan. He applauded Sisolak for taking concrete action on conservation after Utah Gov. Spencer Cox asked people to pray for rain last week.

“There’s broad acceptance in southern Nevada that if we can take some grass out to preserve the water supply for our communities, then that’s something that we need to do,” he said. “This sends a clear message about what other states need to be looking at in order to preserve water.”

The measure will require the replacement of about 6 square miles (16 square kilometers) of grass in the metro Las Vegas area. By ripping it out, water officials estimate the region can conserve 10% of its total available Colorado River water supply and save about 11 gallons (41 liters) per person per day in a region with a population of about 2.3 million.

“Replacing non-functional turf from Southern Nevada will allow for more sustainable and efficient use of resources, build resiliency to climate change, and help ensure the community’s current and future water needs continue to be met,” said Southern Nevada Water Authority General Manager John Entsminger.

The ban was passed by state lawmakers with bipartisan support and backing from groups like Great Basin Water Network conservation group and the Southern Nevada Homebuilders’ Association, which wants to free up water to allow for projected growth and future construction.

When the ban takes effect in 2027, it will apply only to Southern Nevada Water Authority jurisdiction, which encompasses Las Vegas and its surrounding areas and relies on the Colorado River for 90% of its water supply.

As the region has grown, the agency has prohibited developers from planting grass front lawns in new subdivisions and has spent years offering some of the region’s most generous rebates to owners of older properties — up to $3 per square foot (0.1 square meters) — to tear out grass and replace it with drought-tolerant landscaping. Water officials have said waning demand for those rebates has made bolder measures necessary. The legislation also mandates the formation of an advisory committee to carve out exceptions to the ban.

Other cities and states have enacted temporary grass bans during short-term droughts, but Nevada is the first place in the country to put in place a regional ban on certain uses of grass.

The ban came as the seven states that rely on the over-tapped Colorado River for water — Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming — reckon with the prospect of a drier future.

Lake Mead and Lake Powell, the two reservoirs where Colorado River water is stored, are projected to shrink this year to levels that would trigger the region’s first-ever official shortage declaration and cut the amount allocated to Nevada and Arizona.

Water officials in both states have said that even with the cuts, they’ll still have enough water to accommodate projected population growth, but are working to limit certain kinds of consumption.

In Arizona, farmers in Pinal County south of Phoenix have had to stop irrigating their fields because of the cuts. Nevada stands to lose about 4% of its allocation, although the state has historically not used its entire share.

This will literally do jackshit. Oh and it doesn’t go into effect for another 6 fucking years? Corporations are the ones using all the damn water not citizens and their grasses
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:10 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
As Kowani's pointed out, these deadly flowers grew from seeds that we ourselves planted, not any foreign power. Nations like Russia and China are merely providing support for problems that we ourselves created. The biggest contributing factor to this is the rise of ideological mass media in the 1980s. Yes, newspapers always used to be less then objective in the olden days, but talk radio and TV pundit shows went a step further by gaslighting their viewers and listeners into thinking that all other institutions are wrong and out to destroy your world view and that they alone are telling it like it is. When you have something like this growing in numbers and intensity over two generations, murderous hostility and hatred is the only thing that can result from it.


Ideological media and it's symbiosis with politicians - our most recent ex-president, for example, is a perfect example of extreme partisan media manufacturing a politician.

I strongly agree with you, and we strongly agree with you, if you mean by the extreme leftist, biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Pro Biased, Pro Partisan Democrats, extreme leftist Media and both of their biased, partisan, anti, Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Talking Points.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:13 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Ideological media and it's symbiosis with politicians - our most recent ex-president, for example, is a perfect example of extreme partisan media manufacturing a politician.

I strongly agree with you, and we strongly agree with you, if you mean by the extreme leftist, biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Pro Biased, Pro Partisan Democrats, extreme leftist Media and both of their biased, partisan, anti, Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Talking Points.


I can't read word salad.

In other news, it is weird to watch someone argue that Trump is a Republican.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:13 pm

Kowani wrote:US will maintain hundreds of sanctions on Iran even after the nuclear deal is signed

Hundreds of sanctions on Iran are expected to remain even after an agreement has been reached under the multilateral nuclear deal, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said.

Speaking to the Senate Appropriations Committee on Tuesday, Blinken said the US was willing to lift some sanctions on Tehran in exchange for the country returning to compliance with the original nuclear agreement, but "hundreds" more relating to its "destabilising" behaviour would remain.
"We don’t know at this stage whether Iran is willing and able to do what it would need to do to come back into compliance [with the deal]. We will see if that actually materialises," Blinken said.

The secretary's remarks come just days after his team left Vienna, where the fifth round of indirect negotiations with Iran came to a close.

Iranian officials have said that "significant progress" has been made toward a final agreement, but a deal is not likely to be cemented before Iran's new presidential administration takes over in August.

Blinken said the US would have a "responsibility" to lift nuclear-related sanctions if Iran comes back into compliance with the original deal, but also to "maintain sanctions that are consistent ... with a multiplicity of malign Iran actions in a whole series of areas".

"I would anticipate even in the event of a return to compliance with the [deal], hundreds of sanctions will remain in place, including sanctions imposed by the Trump administration. If they are not inconsistent with the [deal], they will remain unless and until Iran’s behaviour changes," he continued.

Meanwhile, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif on Monday tweeted that it was time for the Biden administration to "change course" and move away from measures put in place by the Trump administration.

"It remains unclear whether @POTUS and @SecBlinken are ready to bury the failed 'maximum pressure' policy of Trump and @mikepompeo, and cease using #EconomicTerrorism as bargaining 'leverage'," Zarif said, claiming Tehran had already come into compliance with the original accord.

Zarif also posted on Tuesday about "fruitful talks" he had just completed with the UN envoys to Yemen and Afghanistan, saying that "Iran seeks regional peace and stability" and is "ready to facilitate" as much. During his address on Tuesday, Blinken did not provide details on which specific sanctions would remain or what regional activities Iran would need to cease. [Cont'd]

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Grave_n_idle wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I strongly agree with you, and we strongly agree with you, if you mean by the extreme leftist, biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Pro Biased, Pro Partisan Democrats, extreme leftist Media and both of their biased, partisan, anti, Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Talking Points.


I can't read word salad.

In other news, it is weird to watch someone argue that Trump is a Republican.

Iol, I just wanted to make my post very clear, I am having another massive lol attack, on the contexts of the rest of your post, lol again, :rofl:
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:15 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I strongly agree with you, and we strongly agree with you, if you mean by the extreme leftist, biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Pro Biased, Pro Partisan Democrats, extreme leftist Media and both of their biased, partisan, anti, Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Talking Points.


I can't read word salad.

In other news, it is weird to watch someone argue that Trump is a Republican.

Hes just saying that he agrees with you that the media is biased
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Grave_n_idle wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I strongly agree with you, and we strongly agree with you, if you mean by the extreme leftist, biased, partisan, anti Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Pro Biased, Pro Partisan Democrats, extreme leftist Media and both of their biased, partisan, anti, Republican, anti President Trump of the USA, Talking Points.


I can't read word salad.

In other news, it is weird to watch someone argue that Trump is a Republican.


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Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
I can't read word salad.

In other news, it is weird to watch someone argue that Trump is a Republican.

Iol, I just wanted to make my post very clear, I am having another massive lol attack, on the contexts of the rest of your post, lol again, :rofl:

That’s not how you make it clear mate.

This is how you make it clear:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Ideological media and it's symbiosis with politicians - our most recent ex-president, for example, is a perfect example of extreme partisan media manufacturing a politician.

I strongly agree with you, if you mean by the extreme leftist Talking Points.
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Thermodolia wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
I can't read word salad.

In other news, it is weird to watch someone argue that Trump is a Republican.

Hes just saying that he agrees with you that the media is biased

Yes, I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan against the Republicans and President Trump. I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan in favor of Biden and the Democrats. Thank you Therm for explaining it for me. Amigos. Can I Please start calling you Therm _? GMS.
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Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Hes just saying that he agrees with you that the media is biased

Yes, I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan against the Republicans and President Trump. I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan in favor of Biden and the Democrats. Thank you Therm for explaining it for me. Amigos.


Then try to incorporate such succinct posts from now on. Please. Following your posts is hard when you employ the word salads.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Yes, I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan against the Republicans and President Trump. I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan in favor of Biden and the Democrats. Thank you Therm for explaining it for me. Amigos.


Then try to incorporate such succinct posts from now on. Please. Following your posts is hard when you employ the word salads.

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Hes just saying that he agrees with you that the media is biased

Yes, I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan against the Republicans and President Trump. I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan in favor of Biden and the Democrats. Thank you Therm for explaining it for me. Amigos. Can I Please start calling you Therm _? GMS.


Leftist media most assuredly is biased. But not to the same degree (that's not an opinion, by the way, twenty years of nonpartisan research has consistently shown the same thing).

But the Trump presidency was invented by the rightwing extreme media - not just reported by it. Sean Hannity, for example, literally campaigned for Trump. Whether this new route to the presidency is a good or bad thing remains to be seen, I guess.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
I can't read word salad.

In other news, it is weird to watch someone argue that Trump is a Republican.


Holy schnitzel, a wild GnI appears.


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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:31 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Yes, I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan against the Republicans and President Trump. I am just saying the leftist media is biased and partisan in favor of Biden and the Democrats. Thank you Therm for explaining it for me. Amigos. Can I Please start calling you Therm _? GMS.


Leftist media most assuredly is biased. But not to the same degree (that's not an opinion, by the way, twenty years of nonpartisan research has consistently shown the same thing).

But the Trump presidency was invented by the rightwing extreme media - not just reported by it. Sean Hannity, for example, literally campaigned for Trump. Whether this new route to the presidency is a good or bad thing remains to be seen, I guess.

Early test runs have given us very concerning results.
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Great Algerstonia wrote:joe biden moment

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Leftist media most assuredly is biased. But not to the same degree (that's not an opinion, by the way, twenty years of nonpartisan research has consistently shown the same thing).

But the Trump presidency was invented by the rightwing extreme media - not just reported by it. Sean Hannity, for example, literally campaigned for Trump. Whether this new route to the presidency is a good or bad thing remains to be seen, I guess.

Early test runs have given us very concerning results.


Based on initial sampling, celebrity presidents do not seem to be a long-term viable prospect, that is true.
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:35 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Holy schnitzel, a wild GnI appears.


Quick, chuck a Poké Ball at it.

Dude, I have already apologized to you and my Amiga Nanatsu no Tsuki. As I stated, I can do so when I want too, as Therm's constructive post too me. I will do it from now on. Amigo. Therm, can I start calling you Therm_? Amigo.
I once tried to K Me. Posted It and Reported. Locked by Mods. I am Autistic accounts for Repetitive Nature. I am Very Civil and Respectful to all on NS and off NS. My Opinions Are Not Bad Opinions No Ones Opinions Are Bad Opinons. We are on NS, to share, discuss, argue, disagree, on Trump, elections, Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, Libertarians and whatevers, with respect. This Respect Is Given It Is Not Earned, This Respect Is Called Freedom of Expression and Democracy. This Man Always Says What He Means, I Am The Real Thing. I Make Ted Cruz look like a Leftist. I have been on NS For over 10 Years with a Perfect Record of No Baiting, Trolling, Flaming, or Using Foul Language. I Am Very Proud of It and Wish To Keep My Record Clean. But I Am Not The Only One On NS. GMS. I'm Based.

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:36 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Galloism wrote:Early test runs have given us very concerning results.


Based on initial sampling, celebrity presidents do not seem to be a long-term viable prospect, that is true.

Somehow Reagan stuck around
Male, Jewish, lives somewhere in AZ, Disabled US Military Veteran, Oorah!, I'm GAY!
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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