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Postby Tarsonis » Sat May 29, 2021 10:25 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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Unfortunately Jed Bartlett is just a fictional character.


Yeah but Jeb Bush isn't. I'm still holding out hope that our savior will return someday riding his white horse into the center of town, and he will look out at us smiling and won't even need to ask for us to clap.


had the pleasure of hearing him speak at Yale. I liked his rechampioning federalism idea.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat May 29, 2021 11:03 am

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah but Jeb Bush isn't. I'm still holding out hope that our savior will return someday riding his white horse into the center of town, and he will look out at us smiling and won't even need to ask for us to clap.


had the pleasure of hearing him speak at Yale. I liked his rechampioning federalism idea.


But did you clap though?
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat May 29, 2021 11:05 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
had the pleasure of hearing him speak at Yale. I liked his rechampioning federalism idea.


But did you clap though?


I did. Unbidden. He didn't have to ask. He probably would have preferred if I had waited till he was done though.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat May 29, 2021 11:10 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah but Jeb Bush isn't. I'm still holding out hope that our savior will return someday riding his white horse into the center of town, and he will look out at us smiling and won't even need to ask for us to clap.


had the pleasure of hearing him speak at Yale. I liked his rechampioning federalism idea.

Dude, I would have loved to have the honor to hear Jeb Bush speak at Yale too. As I posted, I love Republican Jeb Bush too, Cubans love him and call him a Cuban at heart. Speaks perfect fluent Spanish, I think he would make a Great pragmatic conservative Republican President of the USA. Pastelitos de Guayaba in The White House. Guava Pies in The White House. My other comments on Jeb Bush, so I don't get accused by anyone of double posting or anything they can think of to hurt me:
viewtopic.php?p=38693985#p38693985

If Jeb Bush ever becomes President of the USA, and does a good job, I will add him to my list of Greatest American Presidents ever of the USA, all 4 Great Republican Presidents ever of the USA.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat May 29, 2021 11:26 am

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Kilobugya wrote:I don't agree with life without parole either - people can change and redeem themselves.

Not all.

Who do you believe is incapable of change? I believe that if we reform our prison system to make it equally based on deterring crimes and making sure crimes do not happen again, anyone can change their ways and cease their criminal actions.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat May 29, 2021 11:38 am

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Picairn wrote:Not all.

Who do you believe is incapable of change? I believe that if we reform our prison system to make it equally based on deterring crimes and making sure crimes do not happen again, anyone can change their ways and cease their criminal actions.


You think someone like Ed Gein could change?
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Postby Kilobugya » Sat May 29, 2021 11:45 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:Who do you believe is incapable of change? I believe that if we reform our prison system to make it equally based on deterring crimes and making sure crimes do not happen again, anyone can change their ways and cease their criminal actions.


You think someone like Ed Gein could change?


Given the right circumstances, maybe. But you can't really know beforehand, before you try, if someone won't be able to change after 20 or 30 years. Giving a life without parole sentence is giving up before trying, and tying yourself in case what you didn't even hope for happen. We should never do that. We should always let a way back into society, for people who truly did better themselves.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat May 29, 2021 11:52 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:If you mean Ifreann made the better Points than The Republic of Fore, than I and millions of American Citizens, Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro America First, Pro USA, USA, USA, strongly disagree with you guys.
Fore was wrong. Ifreann proved them wrong.

You can disagree all you want it doesnt change the facts.

And i swear to fuck, do not go on about "Republican facts vs Democratic facts"

ok fair enough, all of you leftists who strongly disagree with me and us can strongly disagree with us, but it doesn't change our Facts. You guys can post and compare the Republicans in a negative way and the Democrats in a positive way as you all do. I don't have any problems with it, apart strongly disagreeing with you guys with Respect. It is called Freedom of Expression and Democracy, I Practice with Pride and Honor. So I and we can post and compare the Democrats in a negative way and the Republicans in a positive way, like I do, The Republic of Fore does and we do. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, I GMS Practice with Pride and Honor. We are as I keep having to state in details on my post above these are Facts.
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Postby Galloism » Sat May 29, 2021 11:53 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Fore was wrong. Ifreann proved them wrong.

You can disagree all you want it doesnt change the facts.

And i swear to fuck, do not go on about "Republican facts vs Democratic facts"

ok fair enough, all of you leftists who strongly disagree with me and us can strongly disagree with us, but it doesn't change our Facts. You guys can post and compare the Republicans in a negative way and the Democrats in a positive way as you all do. I don't have any problems with it, apart strongly disagreeing with you guys with Respect. It called Freedom of Expression and Democracy, I Practice with Pride and Honor. So I and we can post and compare the Democrats in a negative way and the Republicans in a positive way, like I do, The Republic of Fore does and we do. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, I GMS Practice with Pride and Honor. We are as I keep having to state in details on my post above these are Facts.

If you think Biden has issued over 1000 executive orders in the last few months, I challenge you to name them.
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Postby Atheris » Sat May 29, 2021 11:55 am

Galloism wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:ok fair enough, all of you leftists who strongly disagree with me and us can strongly disagree with us, but it doesn't change our Facts. You guys can post and compare the Republicans in a negative way and the Democrats in a positive way as you all do. I don't have any problems with it, apart strongly disagreeing with you guys with Respect. It called Freedom of Expression and Democracy, I Practice with Pride and Honor. So I and we can post and compare the Democrats in a negative way and the Republicans in a positive way, like I do, The Republic of Fore does and we do. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, I GMS Practice with Pride and Honor. We are as I keep having to state in details on my post above these are Facts.

If you think Biden has issued over 1000 executive orders in the last few months, I challenge you to name them.

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Postby Godular » Sat May 29, 2021 11:57 am

Galloism wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:#allinforjeb
#thejebbening
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If jeb runs in 2024, I hope he adopts something like "America Will Clap"


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Postby Lady Victory » Sat May 29, 2021 12:04 pm

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Galloism wrote:If you think Biden has issued over 1000 executive orders in the last few months, I challenge you to name them.

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Postby Godular » Sat May 29, 2021 12:05 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Fore was wrong. Ifreann proved them wrong.

You can disagree all you want it doesnt change the facts.

And i swear to fuck, do not go on about "Republican facts vs Democratic facts"

ok fair enough, all of you leftists who strongly disagree with me and us can strongly disagree with us, but it doesn't change our Facts. You guys can post and compare the Republicans in a negative way and the Democrats in a positive way as you all do. I don't have any problems with it, apart strongly disagreeing with you guys with Respect. It is called Freedom of Expression and Democracy, I Practice with Pride and Honor. So I and we can post and compare the Democrats in a negative way and the Republicans in a positive way, like I do, The Republic of Fore does and we do. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, I GMS Practice with Pride and Honor. We are as I keep having to state in details on my post above these are Facts.


You have no facts. Your attempts to question facts or claim that facts are biased (which is fundamentally impossible, only interpretations of facts are biased) has been the largest part of your argumentation throughout this thread.

If we don't include your copy-pasted 'pro-USA USA USA republican president Trump and all who have the R after their name who walk on water and never tell a lie and even if they do tell a lie that lie becomes the truth because it issued forth from their most hallowed of mouth-holes' that makes up approximately 85% to 95% of every post you write.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 29, 2021 12:07 pm

The Republic of Fore wrote:
Atheris wrote:The Democrats shouldn't have to compromise with the Republicans. When the Republicans have started to go this far off the deep end then there's no reason for compromise and every reason to get 60 in the Senate so we can finally get rid of the filibuster.

Then they can keep not getting anything done and lose control of congress next year.

Actually it’s more likely that democrats will gain seats in the senate not lose them.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat May 29, 2021 12:08 pm

Godular wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:ok fair enough, all of you leftists who strongly disagree with me and us can strongly disagree with us, but it doesn't change our Facts. You guys can post and compare the Republicans in a negative way and the Democrats in a positive way as you all do. I don't have any problems with it, apart strongly disagreeing with you guys with Respect. It is called Freedom of Expression and Democracy, I Practice with Pride and Honor. So I and we can post and compare the Democrats in a negative way and the Republicans in a positive way, like I do, The Republic of Fore does and we do. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, I GMS Practice with Pride and Honor. We are as I keep having to state in details on my post above these are Facts.


You have no facts. Your attempts to question facts or claim that facts are biased (which is fundamentally impossible, only interpretations of facts are biased) has been the largest part of your argumentation throughout this thread.

If we don't include your copy-pasted 'pro-USA USA USA republican president Trump and all who have the R after their name who walk on water and never tell a lie and even if they do tell a lie that lie becomes the truth because it issued forth from their most hallowed of mouth-holes' that makes up approximately 85% to 95% of every post you write.

lol, you leftists have your facts and we right wingers have our facts, this is how it works. I don't copy paste it, I know it by heart with Pride and Honor, Peace over and out, GMS with Pride and Honor.
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Postby Kilobugya » Sat May 29, 2021 12:09 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Actually it’s more likely that democrats will gain seats in the senate not lose them.


But they are at real risk to lose the House, between gerrymandering and the census results giving more seats to red states (where gerrymandering will go like crazy).
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 29, 2021 12:11 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Godular wrote:
You have no facts. Your attempts to question facts or claim that facts are biased (which is fundamentally impossible, only interpretations of facts are biased) has been the largest part of your argumentation throughout this thread.

If we don't include your copy-pasted 'pro-USA USA USA republican president Trump and all who have the R after their name who walk on water and never tell a lie and even if they do tell a lie that lie becomes the truth because it issued forth from their most hallowed of mouth-holes' that makes up approximately 85% to 95% of every post you write.

lol, you leftists have your facts and we right wingers have our facts, this is how it works.
THAT IS NOT HOW IT FUCKING WORKS!

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The amount of times this has to be said... is ridiculous.

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You copy and paste the same sentence in almost every single one of your posts.
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Galloism wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:ok fair enough, all of you leftists who strongly disagree with me and us can strongly disagree with us, but it doesn't change our Facts. You guys can post and compare the Republicans in a negative way and the Democrats in a positive way as you all do. I don't have any problems with it, apart strongly disagreeing with you guys with Respect. It called Freedom of Expression and Democracy, I Practice with Pride and Honor. So I and we can post and compare the Democrats in a negative way and the Republicans in a positive way, like I do, The Republic of Fore does and we do. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy, I GMS Practice with Pride and Honor. We are as I keep having to state in details on my post above these are Facts.

If you think Biden has issued over 1000 executive orders in the last few months, I challenge you to name them.


Probably one of those 'Republican Facts'.
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Postby Godular » Sat May 29, 2021 12:11 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Godular wrote:
You have no facts. Your attempts to question facts or claim that facts are biased (which is fundamentally impossible, only interpretations of facts are biased) has been the largest part of your argumentation throughout this thread.

If we don't include your copy-pasted 'pro-USA USA USA republican president Trump and all who have the R after their name who walk on water and never tell a lie and even if they do tell a lie that lie becomes the truth because it issued forth from their most hallowed of mouth-holes' that makes up approximately 85% to 95% of every post you write.

lol, you leftists have your facts and we right wingers have our facts, this is how it works. I don't copy paste it, I know it by heart with Pride and Honor, Peace over and out, GMS with Pride and Honor.


And exactly what facts have you available to counter Ifreann's point? Please be so kind as to enlighten us.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat May 29, 2021 12:12 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Godular wrote:
You have no facts. Your attempts to question facts or claim that facts are biased (which is fundamentally impossible, only interpretations of facts are biased) has been the largest part of your argumentation throughout this thread.

If we don't include your copy-pasted 'pro-USA USA USA republican president Trump and all who have the R after their name who walk on water and never tell a lie and even if they do tell a lie that lie becomes the truth because it issued forth from their most hallowed of mouth-holes' that makes up approximately 85% to 95% of every post you write.

lol, you leftists have your facts and we right wingers have our facts, this is how it works. I don't copy paste it, I know it by heart with Pride and Honor, Peace over and out, GMS with Pride and Honor.


that's not how facts work.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat May 29, 2021 12:13 pm

Kilobugya wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually it’s more likely that democrats will gain seats in the senate not lose them.


But they are at real risk to lose the House, between gerrymandering and the census results giving more seats to red states (where gerrymandering will go like crazy).

This is how the system works, the Democrats and Democrat supporters don't complain when it favors their leftist, liberal, progressive, Democrat side. I hope you are right and correct on our Republican chances.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 29, 2021 12:14 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Godular wrote:
You have no facts. Your attempts to question facts or claim that facts are biased (which is fundamentally impossible, only interpretations of facts are biased) has been the largest part of your argumentation throughout this thread.

If we don't include your copy-pasted 'pro-USA USA USA republican president Trump and all who have the R after their name who walk on water and never tell a lie and even if they do tell a lie that lie becomes the truth because it issued forth from their most hallowed of mouth-holes' that makes up approximately 85% to 95% of every post you write.

lol, you leftists have your facts and we right wingers have our facts, this is how it works. I don't copy paste it, I know it by heart with Pride and Honor, Peace over and out, GMS with Pride and Honor.


Not how facts work. There are not left or right facts they simply are. It is not partisan. You say you dont copy and paste yet every single thing you write is almost exactly the same.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 29, 2021 12:15 pm

Kilobugya wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Actually it’s more likely that democrats will gain seats in the senate not lose them.


But they are at real risk to lose the House, between gerrymandering and the census results giving more seats to red states (where gerrymandering will go like crazy).

Let’s hope that S-1 for the people act passed into law which would effectively ban that as all states would be required to implement independent bipartisan redistricting commissions.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat May 29, 2021 12:15 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, you leftists have your facts and we right wingers have our facts, this is how it works. I don't copy paste it, I know it by heart with Pride and Honor, Peace over and out, GMS with Pride and Honor.


Not how facts work. There are not left or right facts they simply are. It is not partisan. You say you dont copy and paste yet every single thing you write is almost exactly the same.


Honestly if he's not copy and pasting, at this point that's just poor planning. Work smarter not harder
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 29, 2021 12:17 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Not how facts work. There are not left or right facts they simply are. It is not partisan. You say you dont copy and paste yet every single thing you write is almost exactly the same.


Honestly if he's not copy and pasting, at this point that's just poor planning. Work smarter not harder

Hell I proofread for him at one point. He utterly ignored it, so I just say we stop engaging. If he’s going to continue like this not engaging will help
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