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Postby Thermodolia » Sat May 29, 2021 1:02 am

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Oh BS, you should be happy the weekend is here. All this effort to agitate…..did you have a bad work week?


Na he's right it was a really lame attack. They didn't even do much in the end besides make a mess and smear literal shit on the walls.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat May 29, 2021 1:03 am

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Nobody ever said Trump was smart.

Quite the opposite actually, he's dumb as shit and uses grade school vocabulary so yeah it's not very ridiculous to think he'd try that.

Dude, the article you presented on the Moderators forum, where you state it is a Fact and True, Trump speaks like a child, is written by Emily Shugerman who also writes for the Daily Beast, both of them, are biased, partisan, anti Republican and anti Trump, of course she is going to say this, which just happens to agree with your views. Just because they are your views does not make it a Fact and True.


Ok. Here is your problem. The definition of “bias” is not the telling of lies. What matters is the truth. If what she wrote was false, you have to prove it.

On the matter of vocabulary. One of the best ways to improve it; is the the reading of books. Guess what Trump doesn’t do?

So again. The claim of bias does not invalidate what she wrote. What would do that would be the thing you have problems understanding; facts.

Let’s strike the wasted text.

I and millions of Proud Trump Cultists, Pro America First, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Nationalist Patriot Citizens of the USA, with Pride and Honor, have heard President Trump speak at Trump Rallies, the News, Post Conferences and From The White House, we strongly think President Trump speaks Great and Awesome. I think the opposite and millions of us Proud Trump Cultists, Pro America First, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Nationalist Patriot Citizens of the USA, with Pride and Honor, strongly agree with me. I will never say any person speaks like a child, I would not like it if any person said I speak like a child. I think you would not like it if any person said you speak like a child. I think you and I or any person would not like it, if another person said we speak like a child. I think any person would not like it if any person said they speak like a child. I think Republican President Trump would not like it if any persons says he speaks like a child. I think all of us would strongly disagree with anyone who says we speak like a child. I think it is very disrespectful for any person to say another person speaks like like a child.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat May 29, 2021 2:16 am

Kowani wrote:McSurveillance

Vehicle owners sued Digital Recognition Network, claiming it has deployed its fleet of unmarked surveillance vehicles in roadways nationwide for the purpose of collecting data on Americans and selling it to anyone willing to pay the price. To date, the company has amassed more than 20 billion license plate scans — equal to 70 scans for every vehicle in the nation.


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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 29, 2021 7:44 am

The Republic of Fore wrote:Funny how Biden has gone from claiming only dictators use executive orders, to issuing more than the last four presidents combined in just seven months. Then again, he'd probably sign a shopping list if it was put in front of him.

You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.
No, well, I've gotta get the votes. I gotta get the votes. That's why — you know, the one thing that I — I have this strange notion. We are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, 'Well, if you can't get the votes, by executive order you're going to do something.' Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat May 29, 2021 7:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Republic of Fore wrote:Funny how Biden has gone from claiming only dictators use executive orders, to issuing more than the last four presidents combined in just seven months. Then again, he'd probably sign a shopping list if it was put in front of him.

You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.
No, well, I've gotta get the votes. I gotta get the votes. That's why — you know, the one thing that I — I have this strange notion. We are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, 'Well, if you can't get the votes, by executive order you're going to do something.' Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.


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Postby Atheris » Sat May 29, 2021 7:50 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Republic of Fore wrote:Funny how Biden has gone from claiming only dictators use executive orders, to issuing more than the last four presidents combined in just seven months. Then again, he'd probably sign a shopping list if it was put in front of him.

You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.
No, well, I've gotta get the votes. I gotta get the votes. That's why — you know, the one thing that I — I have this strange notion. We are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, 'Well, if you can't get the votes, by executive order you're going to do something.' Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 29, 2021 7:56 am

Kowani wrote:Connecticut St Sen Dennis Bradley (D) indicted on federal corruption charges for defrauding the state’s campaign public financing system in his 2018 run

Leonard C Boyle, Acting United States Attorney for the District of Connecticut, and David Sundberg, Special Agent in Charge of the New Haven Division of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, today announced that a federal grand jury in New Haven returned an indictment yesterday charging Connecticut State Senator DENNIS A. BRADLEY, JR., and his former campaign Treasurer, JESSICA MARTINEZ, with multiple offenses related to defrauding Connecticut’s program for publicly funding political campaigns during Bradley’s 2018 run for State Senate.

Bradley and Martinez appeared today before U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert M. Spector in New Haven, entered pleas of not guilty to the charges, and were released on bonds in the amount of $300,000 and $250,000, respectively.

As alleged in the indictment, Bradley, 38, of Bridgeport, has been a member of the Connecticut State Senate since 2018, representing the 23rd State Senate District. Martinez, 39, of Bridgeport, was the Treasurer for Bradley’s 2018 State Senate campaign. In Bradley’s 2018 campaign for State Senate, Bradley, Martinez, and others conspired to defraud the Connecticut State Election Enforcement Commission (“SEEC”), the Citizens’ Election Fund, and the State of Connecticut by making misrepresentations concerning Bradley’s compliance with state election law and the requirements and restrictions of the Citizens’ Election Program (“CEP”), a voluntary public election-financing program under which candidates can apply to SEEC for grants to fund their primary and general election campaigns.
[...]
The indictment alleges that Bradley, Martinez, and their co-conspirators violated CEP rules by holding a March 15, 2018, campaign event at Dolphin’s Cove restaurant in Bridgeport, then engaged in a scheme to trick SEEC into awarding his campaign undeserved CEP grants by making misrepresentations and omissions to disguise the nature of that event.

It is alleged that, although CEP rules imposed a $2,000 limit on Bradley’s expenditure of personal funds, Bradley used personal funds to pay Dolphin’s Cove $5,597.31 for the campaign event, and used personal funds for other campaign expenditures related to the event, including printed invitations and a band.

It is further alleged that, in an attempt to hide the March 15 campaign event from SEEC, Bradley, Martinez and their co-conspirators claimed it was a “Thank You Party” for friends and clients of Bradley’s law firm, Bradley, Denkovich & Karayiannis, P.C., also known as BDK Law Group.

It is alleged that, although at least eight donors gave to Bradley’s campaign at the Dolphin’s Cove event, Bradley’s and Martinez’s co-conspirators altered and falsified the contribution cards so that none were dated March 15, 2018.

It is further alleged that, although CEP rules required complete and truthful disclosures of Bradley’s campaign contributions and expenditures, in April, May and June 2018, Bradley’s campaign filed Itemized Campaign Finance Disclosure Statements with SEEC that omitted that Bradley had held a campaign event on March 15, 2018 at Dolphin’s Cove restaurant, omitted that Bradley had incurred approximately $6,307 in expenses for the event, omitted that Bradley had accepted multiple campaign contributions at the event, and misrepresented the dates of those March 15, 2018 contributions.

It is further alleged that on May 24, 2018, Bradley and Martinez applied for a CEP grant to fund Bradley’s Democratic primary campaign. On July 10, 2018, relying on the false and misleading information contained in Bradley’s filings, SEEC issued the campaign $84,140 in public funds. On August 14, 2018, Bradley won the Democratic primary with approximately 55 percent of the vote.

It is further alleged that, after issuing a CEP primary grant to Bradley, SEEC began investigating a citizen complaint regarding Bradley’s campaign, including the campaign event at Dolphin’s Cove. On August 21, 2018, Bradley emailed a letter to SEEC in which he denied all the allegations in the citizen complaint as “frivolous and manipulative.” In that letter, Bradley falsely stated, “On March 15, 2018, BDK hosted a Client Appreciation event at Dolphin’s Cove restaurant[.] … This was in no shape or form a political event. … In fact, we did not collect any donations at this event and have no donations dated 03/15/2018.”

It is further alleged that on October 12, 2018, after Bradley and Martinez attempted to obtain an additional $95,710 CEP grant to fund Bradley’s general election campaign, Martinez made similar false statements under oath to SEEC. SEEC eventually denied Bradley a general election grant. On November 6, 2018, Bradley won the general election with approximately 87 percent of the vote.

It is further alleged that Martinez made similar false statements to investigating FBI special agents in March 2020, and under oath before the grand jury in September 2020.

Bradley is charged with one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and five counts of wire fraud, and Martinez is charged with one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, five counts of wire fraud, one count of making a false statement to the FBI, and one count of making a false declaration before the grand jury. The conspiracy and fraud offenses carry a maximum term of imprisonment of 20 years on each count, and the false statement and declaration offenses carry a maximum term of imprisonment of five years on each count.


If true then this guy is a asshole.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 29, 2021 8:00 am

Oh, and Biden has only been president for four months, not seven. It's May, he took office in January. But time hasn't made very much sense for the last year, so that one probably is just a mistake.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 29, 2021 8:02 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Kowani wrote:Connecticut St Sen Dennis Bradley (D) indicted on federal corruption charges for defrauding the state’s campaign public financing system in his 2018 run

Leonard C Boyle, Acting United States Attorney for the District of Connecticut, and David Sundberg, Special Agent in Charge of the New Haven Division of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, today announced that a federal grand jury in New Haven returned an indictment yesterday charging Connecticut State Senator DENNIS A. BRADLEY, JR., and his former campaign Treasurer, JESSICA MARTINEZ, with multiple offenses related to defrauding Connecticut’s program for publicly funding political campaigns during Bradley’s 2018 run for State Senate.

Bradley and Martinez appeared today before U.S. Magistrate Judge Robert M. Spector in New Haven, entered pleas of not guilty to the charges, and were released on bonds in the amount of $300,000 and $250,000, respectively.

As alleged in the indictment, Bradley, 38, of Bridgeport, has been a member of the Connecticut State Senate since 2018, representing the 23rd State Senate District. Martinez, 39, of Bridgeport, was the Treasurer for Bradley’s 2018 State Senate campaign. In Bradley’s 2018 campaign for State Senate, Bradley, Martinez, and others conspired to defraud the Connecticut State Election Enforcement Commission (“SEEC”), the Citizens’ Election Fund, and the State of Connecticut by making misrepresentations concerning Bradley’s compliance with state election law and the requirements and restrictions of the Citizens’ Election Program (“CEP”), a voluntary public election-financing program under which candidates can apply to SEEC for grants to fund their primary and general election campaigns.
[...]
The indictment alleges that Bradley, Martinez, and their co-conspirators violated CEP rules by holding a March 15, 2018, campaign event at Dolphin’s Cove restaurant in Bridgeport, then engaged in a scheme to trick SEEC into awarding his campaign undeserved CEP grants by making misrepresentations and omissions to disguise the nature of that event.

It is alleged that, although CEP rules imposed a $2,000 limit on Bradley’s expenditure of personal funds, Bradley used personal funds to pay Dolphin’s Cove $5,597.31 for the campaign event, and used personal funds for other campaign expenditures related to the event, including printed invitations and a band.

It is further alleged that, in an attempt to hide the March 15 campaign event from SEEC, Bradley, Martinez and their co-conspirators claimed it was a “Thank You Party” for friends and clients of Bradley’s law firm, Bradley, Denkovich & Karayiannis, P.C., also known as BDK Law Group.

It is alleged that, although at least eight donors gave to Bradley’s campaign at the Dolphin’s Cove event, Bradley’s and Martinez’s co-conspirators altered and falsified the contribution cards so that none were dated March 15, 2018.

It is further alleged that, although CEP rules required complete and truthful disclosures of Bradley’s campaign contributions and expenditures, in April, May and June 2018, Bradley’s campaign filed Itemized Campaign Finance Disclosure Statements with SEEC that omitted that Bradley had held a campaign event on March 15, 2018 at Dolphin’s Cove restaurant, omitted that Bradley had incurred approximately $6,307 in expenses for the event, omitted that Bradley had accepted multiple campaign contributions at the event, and misrepresented the dates of those March 15, 2018 contributions.

It is further alleged that on May 24, 2018, Bradley and Martinez applied for a CEP grant to fund Bradley’s Democratic primary campaign. On July 10, 2018, relying on the false and misleading information contained in Bradley’s filings, SEEC issued the campaign $84,140 in public funds. On August 14, 2018, Bradley won the Democratic primary with approximately 55 percent of the vote.

It is further alleged that, after issuing a CEP primary grant to Bradley, SEEC began investigating a citizen complaint regarding Bradley’s campaign, including the campaign event at Dolphin’s Cove. On August 21, 2018, Bradley emailed a letter to SEEC in which he denied all the allegations in the citizen complaint as “frivolous and manipulative.” In that letter, Bradley falsely stated, “On March 15, 2018, BDK hosted a Client Appreciation event at Dolphin’s Cove restaurant[.] … This was in no shape or form a political event. … In fact, we did not collect any donations at this event and have no donations dated 03/15/2018.”

It is further alleged that on October 12, 2018, after Bradley and Martinez attempted to obtain an additional $95,710 CEP grant to fund Bradley’s general election campaign, Martinez made similar false statements under oath to SEEC. SEEC eventually denied Bradley a general election grant. On November 6, 2018, Bradley won the general election with approximately 87 percent of the vote.

It is further alleged that Martinez made similar false statements to investigating FBI special agents in March 2020, and under oath before the grand jury in September 2020.

Bradley is charged with one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and five counts of wire fraud, and Martinez is charged with one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, five counts of wire fraud, one count of making a false statement to the FBI, and one count of making a false declaration before the grand jury. The conspiracy and fraud offenses carry a maximum term of imprisonment of 20 years on each count, and the false statement and declaration offenses carry a maximum term of imprisonment of five years on each count.


If true then this guy is a asshole.

Connecticut has a lot of corruption. In Bridgeport it’s very common for the machine vote to go one way in the primary and special elections and somehow every time the absentee vote overturns it.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat May 29, 2021 8:02 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
If true then this guy is a asshole.

Connecticut has a lot of corruption. In Bridgeport it’s very common for the machine vote to go one way and somehow every time the absentee vote overturns it.


The east coast in general has a lot of corruption. Example: Andrew Cuomo.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat May 29, 2021 8:03 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Connecticut has a lot of corruption. In Bridgeport it’s very common for the machine vote to go one way and somehow every time the absentee vote overturns it.


The east coast in general has a lot of corruption. Example: Andrew Cuomo.

Yup. I will not be voting for him in the primary nor will anyone I know. I hope he decides not to run for a fourth term.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat May 29, 2021 8:04 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Republic of Fore wrote:Funny how Biden has gone from claiming only dictators use executive orders, to issuing more than the last four presidents combined in just seven months. Then again, he'd probably sign a shopping list if it was put in front of him.

You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.
No, well, I've gotta get the votes. I gotta get the votes. That's why — you know, the one thing that I — I have this strange notion. We are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, 'Well, if you can't get the votes, by executive order you're going to do something.' Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.

First things first. I and millions of us Proud, Pro USA, USA, USA, Republican President Trump supporters strongly agree with The Republic of Fore on these issues and at least 99 % to 100 % of all issues. He is not lying and we are not lying. It really doesn't matter who signed more executive orders, Biden has reversed many of Republican President Trump's great executive orders and the great legal and illegal immigration agreement with Mexico, the US, Canada, Keystone Oil Pipeline and cancelled the gas and oil leases affecting states like New Mexico.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat May 29, 2021 8:07 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.

First things first. I and millions of us Proud, Pro USA, USA, USA, Republican Trump supporters strongly agree with The Republic of Fore on these issues and at least 99 % to 100 % of all issues. He is not lying and we are not lying. It really doesn't matter who signed more executive orders, Biden has reversed many of Trump's great executive orders and the great legal and illegal immigration agreement with Mexico, the US, Canada, Keystone Oil Pipeline and cancelled the gas and oil leases affecting states like New Mexico.


Doesn't matter. Biden signed less orders than Trump or the others, which is the opposite of what ROF claimed. And based on RoF's arguments against other issues, we're fairly certain he knows what he's saying isn't 100% true. You and the other 48% of Americans who voted for Trump can disagree like you disagreed with the results of the election or how you disagreed with everyone saying Trump was a clown who was gonna get someone killed, but it doesn't matter.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat May 29, 2021 8:13 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:First things first. I and millions of us Proud, Pro USA, USA, USA, Republican Trump supporters strongly agree with The Republic of Fore on these issues and at least 99 % to 100 % of all issues. He is not lying and we are not lying. It really doesn't matter who signed more executive orders, Biden has reversed many of Trump's great executive orders and the great legal and illegal immigration agreement with Mexico, the US, Canada, Keystone Oil Pipeline and cancelled the gas and oil leases affecting states like New Mexico.


Doesn't matter. Biden signed less orders than Trump or the others, which is the opposite of what ROF claimed. And based on RoF's arguments against other issues, we're fairly certain he knows what he's saying isn't 100% true.

I post on a majority or plurality right wing forum site, I cant name on NS because it is against NS rules. Based on my conversations with my fellow Republican Friends and the right wing news sites I post on, we all strongly agree with The Republic of Fore on this issue and all issues The Republic of Fore is not lying, he is telling the truth. Millions of us strongly agree with The Republic of Fore and my post above.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat May 29, 2021 8:14 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Doesn't matter. Biden signed less orders than Trump or the others, which is the opposite of what ROF claimed. And based on RoF's arguments against other issues, we're fairly certain he knows what he's saying isn't 100% true.

I post on a majority or plurality right wing forum sight, I cant name on NS because it is against NS rules. Based on my conversations with my fellow Republican Friends and the right wing news sites I post on, we all strongly agree with The Republic of Fore on this issue and all issues The Republic of Fore is not lying, he is telling the truth. Millions of us strongly agree with The Republic of Fore and my post above.


I really don't care, and I doubt most of these right wingers across the nation know who RoF is.
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Postby Picairn » Sat May 29, 2021 8:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Republic of Fore wrote:Funny how Biden has gone from claiming only dictators use executive orders, to issuing more than the last four presidents combined in just seven months. Then again, he'd probably sign a shopping list if it was put in front of him.

You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.
No, well, I've gotta get the votes. I gotta get the votes. That's why — you know, the one thing that I — I have this strange notion. We are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, 'Well, if you can't get the votes, by executive order you're going to do something.' Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat May 29, 2021 8:18 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I post on a majority or plurality right wing forum site. I cant name on NS because it is against NS rules. Based on my conversations with my fellow Republican Friends and the right wing news sites I post on, we all strongly agree with The Republic of Fore on this issue and all issues The Republic of Fore is not lying, he is telling the truth. Millions of us strongly agree with The Republic of Fore and my post above.


I really don't care, and I doubt most of these right wingers across the nation know who RoF is.

I know you really don't care, and I commend you for strongly defending your views and posts and blaming the Republicans and the Democrats. Republican President Trump taught me and the millions of us to strongly defend our democratic views and posts over 4 Years ago, by Fighting Like Hell, with Respect, Peacefully and Patriotically, with Pride and Honor, even though all leftists and right wingers know he is not a Gentleman.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 29, 2021 8:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
The Republic of Fore wrote:Funny how Biden has gone from claiming only dictators use executive orders, to issuing more than the last four presidents combined in just seven months. Then again, he'd probably sign a shopping list if it was put in front of him.

You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.
No, well, I've gotta get the votes. I gotta get the votes. That's why — you know, the one thing that I — I have this strange notion. We are a democracy. Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, 'Well, if you can't get the votes, by executive order you're going to do something.' Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.

Lmao fucking gottem
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 29, 2021 8:26 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.

First things first. I and millions of us Proud, Pro USA, USA, USA, Republican President Trump supporters strongly agree with The Republic of Fore on these issues and at least 99 % to 100 % of all issues. He is not lying and we are not lying. It really doesn't matter who signed more executive orders, Biden has reversed many of Republican President Trump's great executive orders and the great legal and illegal immigration agreement with Mexico, the US, Canada, Keystone Oil Pipeline and cancelled the gas and oil leases affecting states like New Mexico.

He Blatantly lied though. You are only defending him because he is on your side and you are soo unbelievably tribalistic.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat May 29, 2021 8:27 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:You're lying.

https://www.federalregister.gov/preside ... ive-orders

Joe Biden: 46
Donald Trump: 219
Barack Obama: 276
George Bush: 291
Bill Clinton: 305

46 < 1091

But maybe you're going to say that what you meant is that Biden signed more executive orders than all four of his predecessors had at this point in their presidencies combined. By the 29th of May in the first year of their presidencies, Biden's predecessors had signed:

Trump: 36
Obama: 20
Bush: 17
Clinton: 28

46 < 101

But maybe you're going to say that even though you said "combined", you didn't mean it. Maybe you think that you can just walk back that part of your lies. You're still lying. Biden never said that only dictators use executive orders. What he said is that there are things that you can't do by executive order unless you are a dictator. He was answering a question about whether there'd be any delay in enacting his tax plan.

In fact, during his campaign he promised to sign executive orders reversing Trump policies and things like that. Biden signing a raft of orders on his first day in office wasn't hypocrisy, quite the opposite, he was doing exactly what he said he would do.

And I say that you're lying, because I know that you know that what you're saying isn't true. We've gone through this before, you'll recall. During the Democratic primaries you claimed in one post that Bernie Sanders had no plan for funding his proposed Medicare For All policy, and in another post just a few minutes later you were making specific criticisms of his plan. This is just what you do. You tell lies to criticise Democrats because the lie is a better sounding criticism than a more complex, detailed truth. Maybe there are worthwhile criticisms to make about Biden's use of executive orders. But we'll never hear them from you when there are nice simple lies you can tell.

Lmao fucking gottem

If you mean Ifreann made the better Points than The Republic of Fore, than I and millions of American Citizens, Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro America First, Pro USA, USA, USA, strongly disagree with you guys.
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Postby Atheris » Sat May 29, 2021 8:30 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Lmao fucking gottem

If you mean Ifreann made the better Points than The Republic of Fore, than I and millions of American Citizens, Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro America First, Pro USA, USA, USA, strongly disagree with you guys.

Ok. Feel free to disagree. Still doesn't change the fact that Ifreann completely destroyed his "argument". Opinions mean absolutely nothing in the face of facts.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sat May 29, 2021 8:32 am

Atheris wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:If you mean Ifreann made the better Points than The Republic of Fore, than I and millions of American Citizens, Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro America First, Pro USA, USA, USA, strongly disagree with you guys.

Ok. Feel free to disagree. Still doesn't change the fact that Ifreann completely destroyed his "argument". Opinions mean absolutely nothing in the face of facts.

It wouldn't matter even if Fore was right. Signing executive orders doesn't make one a tyrant especially in this gridlocked climate, and even if Biden was being hypocritical, most politicians are. Not really a good criticism of Biden, and I don't even think he is an effective president.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 29, 2021 8:32 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Lmao fucking gottem

If you mean Ifreann made the better Points than The Republic of Fore, than I and millions of American Citizens, Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro America First, Pro USA, USA, USA, strongly disagree with you guys.
Fore was wrong. Ifreann proved them wrong.

You can disagree all you want it doesnt change the facts.

And i swear to fuck, do not go on about "Republican facts vs Democratic facts"
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