American Politics Thread V: We're Just Biden Our Time ...

[Bombadil]

22 Republican State Attorneys General Argue Congress Making D.C. a State Is Unconstitutional. I strongly agree with them, Washington DC is not a US State according to the constitution, so it should take a constitutional amendment to make it a US state, so the chances of it happening at this point are 0.
A few Excerpts:

Twenty-two Republican Attorneys General wrote a letter to Congress and the Biden administration, contending Washington, D.C. cannot become a state through legislation but only through a Constitutional amendment.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... itutional/

Given you all blatantly tried to overturn the constitutional process in trampling through the Capitol to stop a free and fair election I feel anyone who supports Trump has lost all rights to point to the Constitution for anything.

You clearly couldn't give a shit about it.

[Barberria]

It's not explicitly not a state either in the constitution. Ever heard of the 5th amendment? Look it up. Unconstitutional things directly contradict the constitution, not simply be unmentioned by it. Also, Breitbart is a wildly biased and inaccurate source, but looking purely at the facts from the article, that doesn't matter here.

You might be right on the issue. But here we go again, Breitbart is reliable to the millions of US who agree it is. Right wing news medias are biased towards right wing views and leftist medias like MSNBC, The Progressive, the Guardian and Rachel Meadows are biased towards leftist views, as I keep saying in Politics everything works both ways, No I am not going to get into a back forth argument on this point again, Peace over and out.

That's why we corroborate sources. I corroborate the most reliable sources on both sides of the aisle. I do not corroborate with unreliable sources such as Breitbart that do selective fact reporting. Note that this also applies to both sides of the aisle. Here's what I use: Media Bias Chart.

[Bombadil]

You might be right on the issue. But here we go again, Breitbart is reliable to the millions of US who agree it is. Right wing news medias are biased towards right wing views and leftist medias like MSNBC, The Progressive, the Guardian and Rachel Meadows are biased towards leftist views, as I keep saying in Politics everything works both ways, No I am not going to get into a back forth argument on this point again, Peace over and out.

That's why we corroborate sources. I corroborate the most reliable sources on both sides of the aisle. I do not corroborate with unreliable sources such as Breitbart that do selective fact reporting. Note that this also applies to both sides of the aisle. Here's what I use: Media Bias Chart.

You're debating with someone who thinks that if you believe it then it's fact, it's the very definition of biased thinking in and of itself so I don't think pointing to media bias charts will work here.

[Barberria]

That's why we corroborate sources. I corroborate the most reliable sources on both sides of the aisle. I do not corroborate with unreliable sources such as Breitbart that do selective fact reporting. Note that this also applies to both sides of the aisle. Here's what I use: Media Bias Chart.

You're debating with someone who thinks that if you believe it then it's fact, it's the very definition of biased thinking in and of itself so I don't think pointing to media bias charts will work here.

It will at least tell give them a better view of my perspective, which is the preferred outcome

[Kowani]

in which smartmatic responds to fox

[Kilobugya]

Montana bans vaccine passports

After more than one year of complete havoc, over 2 millions death worldwide, politicians are still not taking Covid seriously and crippling their ability to control it. And it's not even specific to USA at all. Really disheartening to witness that level of... collective suicide.

[Vassenor]

Montana bans vaccine passports

After more than one year of complete havoc, over 2 millions death worldwide, politicians are still not taking Covid seriously and crippling their ability to control it. And it's not even specific to USA at all. Really disheartening to witness that level of... collective suicide.

But the freedoms though.

[Kilobugya]

No it is a correct answer, their are Persons who strongly disagree with this article, their are millions of American Citizens who strongly disagree with this very biased partisan article. GMS.

Saying "I disagree and I'm not alone" is not an argument. You can be millions and be wrong. Millions believe the Earth is flat, that doesn't make it any less round, and is not a valid argument for Earth flatness.

We give you arguments, facts, showing that the current iteration of the GOP is more of a personality cult than a political party. You just keep repeating that you and millions disagree. That's just pointless.

[Greater Miami Shores]

No it is a correct answer, their are Persons who strongly disagree with this article, their are millions of American Citizens who strongly disagree with this very biased partisan article. GMS.

Saying "I disagree and I'm not alone" is not an argument. You can be millions and be wrong. Millions believe the Earth is flat, that doesn't make it any less round, and is not a valid argument for Earth flatness.

We give you arguments, facts, showing that the current iteration of the GOP is more of a personality cult than a political party. You just keep repeating that you and millions disagree. That's just pointless.

No, I am correct millions of us strongly disagree with this very biased anti Trump, anti Republican partisan article. W do not consider the voting law in Georgia as the Democrats say and charge, voter IDs are necessary against illegal voters. There while I am not going into other specific details because I cant think of them right now, it is an argument from a different perspective. Peace over and out for now.

[Kilobugya]

W do not consider the voting law in Georgia as the Democrats say and charge, voter IDs are necessary against illegal voters.

Which illegal voters ? Do you have any evidence they exist ? Again it's not a matter of "belief". Millions believing the Earth is flat doesn't make it one inch less round. If there were illegal voters, enough to justify such draconian laws (even forbidding to give water to people doing the line !) there would need massive evidence for it. There is none.

[Kowani]

Missouri House Rep. Rick Roeber (R) resigns after being accused of sexually abusing his own children

Missouri House leaders on Tuesday said they told law enforcement officials that they're concerned a resigning lawmaker accused of sexually and physically abusing his children years ago may pose a risk to other kids.

House Speaker Rob Vescovo and the leader of the House Ethics Committee in a joint statement said fellow Republican Rep. Rick Roeber's "heinous actions make him not only unfit for office, but should also make him the subject of a thorough investigation by law enforcement." Roeber submitted a letter of resignation Tuesday signaling that his last day will be Friday. He did not mention the allegations against him.

"With his resignation today, we take an important step to protect the integrity of the House as an institution, but it's far more important that we do all we can to seek justice for his children and to ensure he never again causes harm to another child," House leaders wrote. "His resignation allows him to walk away from his duties as a representative, but we cannot allow him to once again walk away from the children he victimized."

Roeber did not immediately return an Associated Press request for comment Tuesday.

Roeber in his letter of resignation said he needs to move out of state to be closer to family and cited that as the reason for his departure from the Legislature. He said he plans to move after he marries his fiancé.

Roeber's adult children first spoke publicly of the abuse to the Kansas City Star, which published details in September 2020.

Voters in suburban Kansas City elected Roeber in November 2020 to succeed his late wife, Republican Rep. Rebecca Roeber. She died in 2019.

After his election, Roeber's children wrote a letter begging Vescovo to prevent him from serving.

"To think that this man would have a say over laws that impact thousands of children is just too much," according to the letter signed by three of his children. "A man like this does not deserve the high honor of serving in our government. "

House Republicans banned him from their caucus, and the House Ethics Committee launched an investigation. Vescovo and Ethics Committee Chairman Travis Fitzwater in the joint statement said the committee found the allegations against Roeber credible.

The committee is scheduled to release a full report on the investigation next week and "will continue to communicate with law enforcement on this matter."

[Greater Miami Shores]

22 Republican State Attorneys General Argue Congress Making D.C. a State Is Unconstitutional. I strongly agree with them, Washington DC is not a US State according to the constitution, so it should take a constitutional amendment to make it a US state, so the chances of it happening at this point are 0.
A few Excerpts:

Twenty-two Republican Attorneys General wrote a letter to Congress and the Biden administration, contending Washington, D.C. cannot become a state through legislation but only through a Constitutional amendment.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... itutional/

Given you all blatantly tried to overturn the constitutional process in trampling through the Capitol to stop a free and fair election I feel anyone who supports Trump has lost all rights to point to the Constitution for anything.

You clearly couldn't give a shit about it.

Dude only a minority of the right wingers have protested violently, most protested peacefully, as President Trump said, protest peacefully and patriotically. I think most of the protestors at Democrat cities with Democrat Mayors are Pro Democrat leftists, but a minority of the leftists are protesting violently, most are protesting peacefully. It is undemocratic to deny all or any constitutional rights to any persons who strongly disagree with other persons views.

I have asked all NS Persons many times to condemn the minority of leftist protestors, tearing down statues and monuments, burning buildings at times owned by minorities, looting stores, throwing projectiles at cops, killing innocent cops and persons who had nothing directly do with the killing of blacks like George Floyd and the others, and they refuse to condemn them for any reasons. I have condemned the minority of right wingers and the minority of leftists committing violence of any kinds.

[Barberria]

Saying "I disagree and I'm not alone" is not an argument. You can be millions and be wrong. Millions believe the Earth is flat, that doesn't make it any less round, and is not a valid argument for Earth flatness.

We give you arguments, facts, showing that the current iteration of the GOP is more of a personality cult than a political party. You just keep repeating that you and millions disagree. That's just pointless.

No, I am correct millions of us strongly disagree with this very biased anti Trump, anti Republican partisan article. W do not consider the voting law in Georgia as the Democrats say and charge, voter IDs are necessary against illegal voters. There while I am not going into other specific details because I cant think of them right now, it is an argument from a different perspective. Peace over and out for now.

Translation:
U wrong. I right. Other people agree with me. This bad, no align with me opinion. Trump told me fraud so I stop the voting despite me say this democracy. Fraud real? I know not, but Trump said yes so I dodge facts. Perspective makes facts false and false facts.

[Vassenor]

If your only evidence for something being true is "Dear Leader said so" then you need to seriously reevaluate your standards.

[Kilobugya]

Dude only a minority of the right wingers have protested violently, most protested peacefully, as President Trump said, protest peacefully and patriotically.

Trump's lawyer called for "trial by combat". Trump didn't disavow him, no, he praised him. That's not "peaceful protest".

It is undemocratic to deny all or any constitutional rights to any persons who strongly disagree with other persons views.

You mean, voter suppression laws ? That's what the GOP is doing... not the democrats.

I have asked all NS Persons many times to condemn the minority of leftist protestors, tearing down statues and monuments, burning buildings at times owned by minorities, looting stores, throwing projectiles at cops,

I support the tearing of statues or monuments that glorify oppressors, such as confederate leaders. For the rest, I oppose political violence in most non-extreme situation.

killing innocent cops and persons who had nothing directly do with the killing of blacks like George Floyd and the others

[[citation needed]] that BLM killed "innocent cops". The Trump-incited assault on the Capitol did. And many of the GOP still went on with refusing to certify the election afterwards, refusing to honor the dead police officer. BLM didn't.

I have condemned the minority of right wingers and the minority of leftists committing violence of any kinds.

Seeing a superficial similarity don't make the two things roughly equivalent. No more than having "millions" saying something change the facts. Those two things don't have much in common - an attempt to overthrow an election, compared to protest against having your sisters and brothers killed, regularly, since decade, with near total impunity. Violence incited by Trump & his ilk, versus violence arising with no specific instruction. Trump and elected GOP senators and representatives still covering up for the insurrectionists even after they killed a police officer and threatened to kill many more.

[Bombadil]

Given you all blatantly tried to overturn the constitutional process in trampling through the Capitol to stop a free and fair election I feel anyone who supports Trump has lost all rights to point to the Constitution for anything.

You clearly couldn't give a shit about it.

Dude only a minority of the right wingers have protested violently, most protested peacefully, as President Trump said, protest peacefully and patriotically. I think most of the protestors at Democrat cities with Democrat Mayors are Pro Democrat leftists, but a minority of the leftists are protesting violently, most are protesting peacefully. It is undemocratic to deny all or any constitutional rights to any persons who strongly disagree with other persons views.

I have asked all NS Persons many times to condemn the minority of leftist protestors, tearing down statues and monuments, burning buildings at times owned by minorities, looting stores, throwing projectiles at cops, killing innocent cops and persons who had nothing directly do with the killing of blacks like George Floyd and the others, and they refuse to condemn them for any reasons. I have condemned the minority of right wingers and the minority of leftists committing violence of any kinds.

Your unwavering support and continued belief in the lies around the election enable and contribute to those who invaded the Capitol, frankly I blame all those who wittingly or unwittingly bought into Trump's self-serving lies about the election - and I consider you unwitting.

[Greater Miami Shores]

If your only evidence for something being true is "Dear Leader said so" then you need to seriously reevaluate your standards.

There is nothing wrong with my so called Dear Leader Republican President Trump of the USA. It is called Democracy. We are all Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, no matter what any persons say or think about us. GMS. I

[North Washington Republic]

Given you all blatantly tried to overturn the constitutional process in trampling through the Capitol to stop a free and fair election I feel anyone who supports Trump has lost all rights to point to the Constitution for anything.

You clearly couldn't give a shit about it.

Dude only a minority of the right wingers have protested violently, most protested peacefully, as President Trump said, protest peacefully and patriotically. I think most of the protestors at Democrat cities with Democrat Mayors are Pro Democrat leftists, but a minority of the leftists are protesting violently, most are protesting peacefully. It is undemocratic to deny all or any constitutional rights to any persons who strongly disagree with other persons views.

I have asked all NS Persons many times to condemn the minority of leftist protestors, tearing down statues and monuments, burning buildings at times owned by minorities, looting stores, throwing projectiles at cops, killing innocent cops and persons who had nothing directly do with the killing of blacks like George Floyd and the others, and they refuse to condemn them for any reasons. I have condemned the minority of right wingers and the minority of leftists committing violence of any kinds.

Well, I certainly condemn far-left protesters that riot, loot and destroy many times on this website. President Joe Biden has condemned rioting and looting. However, Donald Trump called the MAGA terrorists that attacked our Capitol “special”. We have people like Sen. Ron Johnson said that he wasn’t scared of the MAGA terrorists because he agrees with them politically. The GOP is doing everything to sweep the MAGA terrorists attack on the Capitol under the rug. Most Republicans believes it was ANTFIA that attacked the Capitol.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Dude only a minority of the right wingers have protested violently, most protested peacefully, as President Trump said, protest peacefully and patriotically. I think most of the protestors at Democrat cities with Democrat Mayors are Pro Democrat leftists, but a minority of the leftists are protesting violently, most are protesting peacefully. It is undemocratic to deny all or any constitutional rights to any persons who strongly disagree with other persons views.

I have asked all NS Persons many times to condemn the minority of leftist protestors, tearing down statues and monuments, burning buildings at times owned by minorities, looting stores, throwing projectiles at cops, killing innocent cops and persons who had nothing directly do with the killing of blacks like George Floyd and the others, and they refuse to condemn them for any reasons. I have condemned the minority of right wingers and the minority of leftists committing violence of any kinds.

Your unwavering support and continued belief in the lies around the election enable and contribute to those who invaded the Capitol, frankly I blame all those who wittingly or unwittingly bought into Trump's self-serving lies about the election - and I consider you unwitting.

I respect your rights to all your views while I strongly disagree with them, it is called Democracy, this respect is given it is not earned.

[Eahland]

The Constitution actually defines the federal district and makes it not part of any state, so it's true in a very technical sense that you can't make the District of Columbia a state without a Constitutional amendment. However, the Constitution doesn't define the geographical borders of the federal district, except to place a maximum size of "ten Miles square" on it. Importantly, there is no minimum size defined. The actual borders are set by federal legislation, and federal legislation can change them, increasing its size up to the maximum ten mile square — or reducing it to, say, nothing more than the Capitol grounds. This has been done before — the District of Columbia used to be much larger, but the federal government gave the half of it south of the Potomac back to Virginia in 1847.

So the actual plan is technically not to make the District of Columbia a state, but to reduce the District of Columbia to a very small area where no one actually lives, and to then make the now-unclaimed territory that used to be the rest of D.C. into a new state called the Douglass Commonwealth. And federal legislation creating a state out of unclaimed territory is also something that's happened numerous times before. The federal district as defined by the Constitution will still exist; it'll just be very small and have few to no permanent residents. The places where people actually live will no longer be part of the federal district; they'll be a new state.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

People really be discussing Trump even though he's not president anymore

[Vassenor]

People really be discussing Trump even though he's not president anymore

Maybe he needs to stop acting like he still is then.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

People really be discussing Trump even though he's not president anymore

Maybe he needs to stop acting like he still is then.

Or you can ignore it and move on with your life without coping

[Vassenor]

Maybe he needs to stop acting like he still is then.

Or you can ignore it and move on with your life without coping

We're not the ones screaming blue murder about fraud and illegal voters.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

Or you can ignore it and move on with your life without coping

We're not the ones screaming blue murder about fraud and illegal voters.

New president my friend. If ya wanna focus on blaming the US president on something, do it on the 46th, aka Biden. Trump aint your president, so move on with it already, or maybe you dont have anything to discuss about so just nit picking small shit to argue is of your taste