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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:47 am

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If he does run what makes you think he won't claim he was the rightful winner and if he wins he will run for a third term because one term was stolen from him?


Because the Constitution doesn't say Terms. It says you can't be elected to the office more than twice.

What makes you think Trump won't say he's entitled to a third term if he wins because the 2020 election was stolen from him? I wouldnt put it past Republicans to nominate him for an illegal third term.
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Iran Deal thrown into limbo after Iranian nuclear negotiator claimed the country would begin enriching uranium to 60%

Iran will start increasing the purity of uranium it enriches to 60% after an attack on a key nuclear facility, one of Iran’s leading nuclear negotiators said, raising fresh concerns about the future of talks to limit Tehran’s ability to produce a nuclear weapon.

Until now, Iran has been enriching uranium up to 20% purity, but the new target would be a step closer to achieving weapons-grade levels.

Abbas Araghchi, a senior foreign ministry official, didn’t mention how long it would take Iran to reach the 60% level in his remarks in Vienna Tuesday, which were reported by Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency.

Behrouz Kamalvandi, spokesman for Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization, told the state news agency that preparations for the enhanced enrichment program will begin later Tuesday at the facility in Natanz, which Iran accused Israel of attacking over the weekend, destroying a number of centrifuges and causing an electrical blackout.

The attack occurred as U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was visiting Israel and was preparing to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Kowani wrote:Iran Deal thrown into limbo after Iranian nuclear negotiator claimed the country would begin enriching uranium to 60%

Iran will start increasing the purity of uranium it enriches to 60% after an attack on a key nuclear facility, one of Iran’s leading nuclear negotiators said, raising fresh concerns about the future of talks to limit Tehran’s ability to produce a nuclear weapon.

Until now, Iran has been enriching uranium up to 20% purity, but the new target would be a step closer to achieving weapons-grade levels.

Abbas Araghchi, a senior foreign ministry official, didn’t mention how long it would take Iran to reach the 60% level in his remarks in Vienna Tuesday, which were reported by Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency.

Behrouz Kamalvandi, spokesman for Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization, told the state news agency that preparations for the enhanced enrichment program will begin later Tuesday at the facility in Natanz, which Iran accused Israel of attacking over the weekend, destroying a number of centrifuges and causing an electrical blackout.

The attack occurred as U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was visiting Israel and was preparing to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.


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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:15 am

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) signs bill legalizing recreational marijuana into law

Legislators rallied behind a legalization framework from state Rep. Javier Martinez of Albuquerque that provides automated procedures for expunging past pot convictions.

The bill gives the governor a strong hand in oversight of recreational marijuana through her appointed superintendent of the Regulation and Licensing Department.

Agency Superintendent Linda Trujillo said people age 21 and over will be allowed start growing marijuana at home and possess up to 2 ounces (56 grams) of marijuana outside their homes starting on June 29.

Recreational cannabis sales start next year by April 1 at state-licensed dispensaries.

Regulators can put a cap on marijuana cultivation quantities and impose a per-plant state fee of up to $50 a year. Some of the state's medical marijuana producers lobbied for market controls amid concerns that marijuana prices might plummet with the legalization of recreational marijuana, undermining investments and employment.

Home marijuana growers will be allowed to grow up to six plants per person, or 12 per household. The scent of marijuana will no longer be grounds for police seizures.

Local governments can't prohibit marijuana businesses from setting up shop. They can have a say through zoning about the location and hours of operation.[...] Challenges await state regulators as they prepare to issue a variety of marijuana business licenses by the start of 2022 to enterprises such as quality testing labs, industrial operations that grow, refine, package and sell cannabis products and craft marijuana "microbusiness" that grow only up to 200 plants.

Rules also are due by the start of 2022 on product safety, minimum qualifications for a marijuana business license and standards for vetting and training "cannabis servers"—who must hold a state permit and be 21 or older.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:22 am

Kowani wrote:Preliminary withdrawal from Afghanistan: 9/11
President Biden will withdraw all American troops from Afghanistan over the coming months, people familiar with the plans said, completing the military exit by the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that first drew the United States into its longest war.
The decision, which Biden is expected to announce on Wednesday, will keep thousands of U.S. forces in the country beyond the May 1 exit deadline that the Trump administration negotiated last year with the Taliban, according to one person familiar with the matter, who like others spoke on condition of anonymity to describe plans that are not yet public.
While the Taliban has vowed to renew attacks on U.S. and NATO personnel if foreign troops are not out by the deadline, it is not clear if the militants will follow through with those threats given Biden’s plan for a phased withdrawal between now and September.
Officially, there are 2,500 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, although the number fluctuates and is currently about 1,000 more than that. There are also up to an additional 7,000 foreign forces in the coalition there, the majority of them NATO troops.

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Postby Eahland » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:36 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Because the Constitution doesn't say Terms. It says you can't be elected to the office more than twice.

What makes you think Trump won't say he's entitled to a third term if he wins because the 2020 election was stolen from him? I wouldnt put it past Republicans to nominate him for an illegal third term.

He was already claiming, even before he lost the 2020 election, that he deserved a third term because something something scary black man spying on him I don't know.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:38 am

Eahland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What makes you think Trump won't say he's entitled to a third term if he wins because the 2020 election was stolen from him? I wouldnt put it past Republicans to nominate him for an illegal third term.

He was already claiming, even before he lost the 2020 election, that he deserved a third term because something something scary black man spying on him I don't know.


And if he someone wins again in 2024 I wouldn't;t put it past Republicans to openly violate the 22nd amendment and nominate him again.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:49 am

Kowani wrote:Preliminary withdrawal from Afghanistan: 9/11
President Biden will withdraw all American troops from Afghanistan over the coming months, people familiar with the plans said, completing the military exit by the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that first drew the United States into its longest war.
The decision, which Biden is expected to announce on Wednesday, will keep thousands of U.S. forces in the country beyond the May 1 exit deadline that the Trump administration negotiated last year with the Taliban, according to one person familiar with the matter, who like others spoke on condition of anonymity to describe plans that are not yet public.
While the Taliban has vowed to renew attacks on U.S. and NATO personnel if foreign troops are not out by the deadline, it is not clear if the militants will follow through with those threats given Biden’s plan for a phased withdrawal between now and September.
Officially, there are 2,500 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, although the number fluctuates and is currently about 1,000 more than that. There are also up to an additional 7,000 foreign forces in the coalition there, the majority of them NATO troops.
It appears the withdrawal will not be condition based
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Postby Immortan Khan » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:56 am

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I knew it was Tucker before I even clicked the link.


The problem is that it's self-serving, he claims people are shut down for openly talking about this agenda and then..

The head of the Anti-Defamation League has called for Fox News to fire Tucker Carlson, after the primetime host said immigration would “dilute the political power” of Americans.

Carlson was referring to “white replacement”, a racist theory that has been cited as a motivation in deadly attacks.

Two days earlier, Greenblatt wrote in an open letter to Fox that Carlson’s “rhetoric was not just a dog whistle to racists – it was a bullhorn”. He also cited previous instances in which Carlson has used anti-migrant rhetoric, including arguing that immigration makes the US “poorer and dirtier” and questioning whether white-supremacist ideology exists.


He should be called out, but his supporters will simply see this as proof of what he's saying.

Tbf the ADL is the last group that should be criticizing Tucker Carlson for this given that they openly believe the same thing about Arabs living in Israel and vocally support Israel doing whatever it can/must in order to remain majority Jewish.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:58 am

Immortan Khan wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
The problem is that it's self-serving, he claims people are shut down for openly talking about this agenda and then..

The head of the Anti-Defamation League has called for Fox News to fire Tucker Carlson, after the primetime host said immigration would “dilute the political power” of Americans.

Carlson was referring to “white replacement”, a racist theory that has been cited as a motivation in deadly attacks.

Two days earlier, Greenblatt wrote in an open letter to Fox that Carlson’s “rhetoric was not just a dog whistle to racists – it was a bullhorn”. He also cited previous instances in which Carlson has used anti-migrant rhetoric, including arguing that immigration makes the US “poorer and dirtier” and questioning whether white-supremacist ideology exists.


He should be called out, but his supporters will simply see this as proof of what he's saying.

Tbf the ADL is the last group that should be criticizing Tucker Carlson for this given that they openly believe the same thing about Arabs living in Israel and vocally support Israel doing whatever it can/must in order to remain majority Jewish.


The ADL calling people fascists and racists is the top tier definition of irony.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:42 pm

Remember when we all said American politics would get boring again? I swear there's still a shit ton of American political news popping up every day.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:52 pm

Corrian wrote:Remember when we all said American politics would get boring again? I swear there's still a shit ton of American political news popping up every day.


Agreed. Plus we have two state legislative specials today and mayoral runoff in Chattanooga.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Corrian wrote:Remember when we all said American politics would get boring again? I swear there's still a shit ton of American political news popping up every day.


Agreed. Plus we have two state legislative specials today and mayoral runoff in Chattanooga.

I'm gonna be driving through Chattanooga in not too long of time. Looks like a neat area.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:00 pm

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Agreed. Plus we have two state legislative specials today and mayoral runoff in Chattanooga.

I'm gonna be driving through Chattanooga in not too long of time. Looks like a neat area.


It looks like a very nice city. A friend of mine lives about an hour and half from there.

There is an awesome building there called the Chattanooga Choo Choo. its an old train station that was covered into a hotel. You can stay in restored passenger cars.

As a rail fan i'd love to stay there sometime.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:07 pm

The attempt by the democrats to get back to normal is clearly coming apart at the seams. I ask, is there any man out there who still legitimately believes society hasn't changed for real?
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:30 pm

Biden proposes summit with Putin over Ukraine

U.S. President Joe Biden called on Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday to reduce tensions stirred by a Russian military build-up on Ukraine’s border and proposed a summit of the estranged leaders to tackle a raft of disputes. The White House and the Kremlin reported only the second conversation between the two since Biden took office in January, after Western officials urged Moscow to end the build-up and Russia, in words recalling the Cold War, said its “adversary” should keep U.S. warships well away from the Crimea region.

Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and fighting has increased in recent weeks in eastern Ukraine, where government forces have battled Russian-backed separatists in a seven-year conflict that Kyiv says has killed 14,000 people.

In a sign of concern about tensions spinning out of control in the Ukraine crisis, Biden phoned Putin to propose they meet in a third country while underlining U.S. commitment to Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

“President Biden also made clear that the United States will act firmly in defense of its national interests in response to Russia’s actions, such as cyber intrusions and election interference,” the White House said in a statement.

“The president voiced our concerns over the sudden Russian military build-up in occupied Crimea and on Ukraine’s borders, and called on Russia to de-escalate tensions,” it said. [...] Biden also reaffirmed a goal to build “a stable and predictable relationship” with Russia and said a meeting in the coming months could address “the full range of issues” facing the two world powers, the statement said.

The Kremlin said in its account of the call that Biden told Putin he wanted to normalize relations and to cooperate on arms control, Iran’s nuclear program, Afghanistan and climate change. It confirmed Biden had proposed a high level meeting but did not indicate how the Russian leader responded. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken echoed the White House message during talks on the crisis in Brussels with NATO leaders and Ukraine’s foreign minister.

Blinken also said he would discuss Kyiv’s ambitions to one day join NATO - although France and Germany have long worried that bringing the former Soviet republic into the Western alliance would antagonize Russia.

“The United States is our adversary and does everything it can to undermine Russia’s position on the world stage,” Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov was quoted as saying by Russian news agencies on Tuesday.

His remarks suggest that the diplomatic niceties which the old Cold War enemies have generally sought to observe in recent decades is fraying, and that Russia would robustly push back against what it regards as unacceptable U.S. interference in its geographical sphere of influence.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:47 pm

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/13/98661253 ... rob-santos

In a historic move, President Biden is naming Robert Santos, one of the country's leading statisticians and the American Statistical Association's president, as his intended nominee to head the U.S. Census Bureau.

If confirmed by the Senate, Santos, who is Latinx, would be the first permanent director of color for the federal government's largest statistical agency,

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Postby National Capitalist United States » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:47 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.npr.org/2021/04/13/986612530/biden-to-make-historic-census-director-pick-with-latinx-statistician-rob-santos

In a historic move, President Biden is naming Robert Santos, one of the country's leading statisticians and the American Statistical Association's president, as his intended nominee to head the U.S. Census Bureau.

If confirmed by the Senate, Santos, who is Latinx, would be the first permanent director of color for the federal government's largest statistical agency,


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Postby Galloism » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.npr.org/2021/04/13/986612530/biden-to-make-historic-census-director-pick-with-latinx-statistician-rob-santos

In a historic move, President Biden is naming Robert Santos, one of the country's leading statisticians and the American Statistical Association's president, as his intended nominee to head the U.S. Census Bureau.

If confirmed by the Senate, Santos, who is Latinx, would be the first permanent director of color for the federal government's largest statistical agency,

I have yet to meet a single person who identifies as Latino that doesn't want to instantly smack anyone who says "Latinx".
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.npr.org/2021/04/13/986612530/biden-to-make-historic-census-director-pick-with-latinx-statistician-rob-santos

In a historic move, President Biden is naming Robert Santos, one of the country's leading statisticians and the American Statistical Association's president, as his intended nominee to head the U.S. Census Bureau.

If confirmed by the Senate, Santos, who is Latinx, would be the first permanent director of color for the federal government's largest statistical agency,

I have yet to meet a single person who identifies as Latino that doesn't want to instantly smack anyone who says "Latinx".


At least hes qualified for the position. That's the most important thing.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:I have yet to meet a single person who identifies as Latino that doesn't want to instantly smack anyone who says "Latinx".


At least hes qualified for the position. That's the most important thing.

I don't deny that. I just don't know why you would call an ethnic group something that they nearly universally hate.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:53 pm

Galloism wrote:
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At least hes qualified for the position. That's the most important thing.

I don't deny that. I just don't know why you would call an ethnic group something that they nearly universally hate.


I merely quoted the article. I didn't call them that.

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Postby National Capitalist United States » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:I have yet to meet a single person who identifies as Latino that doesn't want to instantly smack anyone who says "Latinx".


At least hes qualified for the position. That's the most important thing.

Also how is he a "director of color"?

In the photo he's white?
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Postby Galloism » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:I don't deny that. I just don't know why you would call an ethnic group something that they nearly universally hate.


I merely quoted the article. I didn't call them that.

Again, I wasn't accusing you of anything in particular.

I just was remarking on this irritation among people of Latino origin regarding the use of the word Latinx.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:55 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I merely quoted the article. I didn't call them that.

Again, I wasn't accusing you of anything in particular.

I just was remarking on this irritation among people of Latino origin regarding the use of the word Latinx.


i misunderstood. My apologies.

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