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Postauthoritarian America wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Truly what I was talking about. :roll: I'm saying people like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Smith_(murderer) do exist and should go away for life.


A. Eric Smith was not sentenced to life without parole.

2.
Eric Smith had been diagnosed by a defense psychiatrist with intermittent explosive disorder, a mental disorder causing individuals to be violent and unpredictable, but the prosecution's expert said it was a rare disorder that was rarely seen at Smith's age. Smith was subjected to extensive medical testing from specialists on both sides. They examined brain function, hormone levels and found nothing to explain his violent behavior. According to court documents, Smith was a loner who was often tormented by bullies for his protruding low-set ears, thick glasses, red hair and freckles. It later emerged that during her pregnancy, Smith's mother took an epilepsy drug, Tridione, which is known to cause birth defects.

He should've.
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...Considering all these people are being photo'd directly before being killed I doubt they were smiling.

The Khmer Rouge are the ones taking these photos.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:25 pm


There are booking photos taken often days, hours, or minutes before someone was likely shot at best or so much worse. There wouldn't likely be multiple photos of anyone unless there was a mistake when taking the picture, but in that case that photo would never have been developed.

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Salus Maior wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmmm?

Is it a modification or simply a shot from another frame?


...Considering all these people are being photo'd directly before being killed I doubt they were smiling.

The Khmer Rouge are the ones taking these photos.


Ohhhhhhh.

I thought it was a photographer who took them.
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Matt Gaetz is pure scum.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Matt Gaetz is pure scum.

No arguments here.
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https://thenevadaindependent.com/articl ... llegations

Nevada Republicans censure Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske and effective kick her out of the party because she refused to endorse baseless claims of voter fraud. She is the only Republican serving in statewide office.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:17 pm

Colorado moves towards a passenger rail system

Colorado lawmakers on Friday introduced a bill that, if passed, would mark the most significant step the state has taken yet toward funding, building and eventually operating a Front Range passenger train system.

The measure, Senate Bill 238, would draw a new special Front Range passenger rail district running from the New Mexico state line to Wyoming and centered on Interstate 25. The district would be overseen by a 14-member board that would have the power to ask voters to raise sales taxes by up to 8 cents on every $10 purchase to pay for the train. Front Range passenger rail has been a complicated, elusive goal for a growing number of Colorado elected leaders and transportation officials, including Gov. Jared Polis. The train is seen as a way to drive down vehicle emissions in Colorado and ease congestion on the state’s packed roadways through its fastest-growing, most populous corridors.

But the main holdup has been the billions of dollars needed for startup funding. Senate Bill 238 creates a clear way for the rail system to raise money, though important details, like where its stops would be, have not been ironed out.

The district would include all of the Broomfield and Denver, as well as all areas of Adams, Arapahoe, Boulder, Douglas, El Paso, Huerfano, Jefferson, Larimer, Las Animas, Pueblo, and Weld counties that are located within the territory of a metropolitan planning organization, like the Denver Regional Council of Governments and Pikes Peak Area Council of Governments.

In Huerfano, Las Animas, Larimer and Weld counties, areas that aren’t within the territory of a metropolitan planning organization but are within five miles of the I-25 right of way would also be included.

Polling conducted on behalf of the Front Range Passenger Rail Commission in 2019 showed that 61% of likely 2020 general election voters living in 13 Front Range counties would be willing to support a tax increase to pay for passenger rail service at an estimated cost of $5 billion. The poll didn’t ask voters about a specific tax increase, however, and Coloradans have been loath to approve new taxes ever since the Taxpayer’s Bill of Rights was passed in 1992. It’s still early in the legislative process, but there are signs Senate Bill 238 has enough momentum to cruise to passage. Three Republicans in the Senate have signed on to the proposal as sponsors, including Kevin Priola, Don Coram and Cleave Simpson, and the governor supports it.

In the state House, one of the two prime sponsors is House Majority Leader Daneya Esgar, a Pueblo Democrat and the chamber’s second-most powerful lawmaker.

“With the Biden administration proposing an ambitious federal infrastructure plan that includes Colorado’s Front Range Rail proposal, it only makes sense that the state legislature would lay the groundwork that could allow this dream to become a reality,” Esgar said in a written statement Friday. [...] The district’s board would have to be appointed by April 1, 2022. The governor would pick six of the members, while seven others would be chosen by metropolitan planning organizations, like the Denver Regional Council of Governments. The Colorado Department of Transportation would appoint the 14th member of the board.

BNSF and Union Pacific, Colorado’s two major freight rail carriers, and Amtrak would also be able to each appoint a nonvoting member of the board.

The Regional Transportation District’s board could appoint one nonvoting member.

Finally, the bill proposes giving the governors of New Mexico and Wyoming the ability to each appoint one nonvoting member of the board.

While RTD won’t have a vote in how the district is run, Senate Bill 238 would direct the new board overseeing the Front Range passenger rail district to collaborate with the other tax-collecting transit agency and “ensure interconnectivity with any passenger rail system” operated by RTD. [...] Senate Bill 238 has yet to be scheduled for its first committee hearing.
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And so does Arkansas take one step forward... towards idiocracy.
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Postby Kilobugya » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:19 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:You expect me to believe that there aren't a small minority of juveniles who commit crimes worthy of such a punishment.


I don't even believe there are adults "worthy" of such a punishment, and I don't even think "worthy" is the good way of thinking about it. Most of the civilized world does not have life without parole at all, and they have much lower criminality rate than USA.
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Postby Kilobugya » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:22 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:I'm saying people like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Smith_(murderer) do exist and should go away for life.


Victim of bullying... his mother taking dangerous drugs during pregnancy... what happened to the victim is horrible, but Eric Smith belongs to a mental institution, not a prison.
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Yeahhh ! Trains ! But what ? Means Colorado doesn't have any passenger trains at all now ? What a depressing place !
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:43 am

Mystickystuff wrote:
Kilobugya wrote:
Yeahhh ! Trains ! But what ? Means Colorado doesn't have any passenger trains at all now ? What a depressing place !


The US overall has a bit more than ONE QUARTER the population DENSITY of Europe.

The most righteous train systems are in cities or extended metro areas, where population density is high.

You might find this interesting: https://moverdb.com/us-states-europe-population/


Yes, but the Soviet Union managed to run an effective cross-country rail network over a larger and less densely populated area.
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Postby Page » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why the heck would he veto that bill?

You expect me to believe that there aren't a small minority of juveniles who commit crimes worthy of such a punishment.


The law has never once considered that there is a small amount of juveniles worthy of being allowed to drink, gamble, have sex, or vote. Why should crime be the one thing in society where children are treated as adults?
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Mystickystuff wrote:
Page wrote:
The law has never once considered that there is a small amount of juveniles worthy of being allowed to drink, gamble, have sex, or vote. Why should crime be the one thing in society where children are treated as adults?


The law might be wrong. The law might violate children's rights on the basis that it's been doing so since forever. Since patriarchy, since matriarchy, since before there was any government to guarantee the rights of anyone. The protector and provider, was also the owner and master, and as for a slave it is impossible for children to fight back against oppression. They can, and do, "run away from home".

The next step in children's liberation is to legalize and support running away from home. There should be Free Children's Communes.

You point is correct of course. Children are not fully responsible for their actions, while still under the coercion of someone else.


Children's liberation? Wtf?
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:45 am

Luminesa wrote:Well it looks like the bill against Planned Parenthood in the area basically shuts a door that was already half-shut, so I don’t have a problem with that.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:53 am

Mystickystuff wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Children's liberation? Wtf?


Too many syllables?

"Brat riot" then.


I can understand letting teens live on their own and shit but you can't just liberate all the children. Do you really expect a 5 year old to feed and clothe themselves?
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