by Insaanistan » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:02 am
by Vassenor » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:08 am
by J o J » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:11 am
Insaanistan wrote:Or if they banned crop tops and short shorts until they were 18?
by Tinhampton » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:14 am
Insaanistan wrote:You can no longer wear a hijab if you are under 18, cannot wear a burqini in public pools, and cannot accompany children on school trips if you are an adult who wears a hijab.
While they will not yet become law...
by Insaanistan » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:14 am
Vassenor wrote:So how does secularism translate to "need to protect people from seeing religion exists"?
by Insaanistan » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:17 am
by Picairn » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:18 am
by Islamic Holy Sites » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:19 am
Insaanistan wrote:Once again, we see France target Muslims in the name of Separatism.
You can no longer wear a hijab if you are under 18, cannot wear a burqini in public pools, and cannot accompany children on school trips if you are an adult who wears a hijab.
While they will not yet become law, they reflect the views of the body that will vote them into existence.
Can you all just imagine if Turkey forced all women to wear hijab until they were 18? Or if they banned crop tops and short shorts until they were 18?
France calls this secularism, but as it’s more and more apparent each day. Just a reminder, this is a country that allows kids of any age to drink alcohol at home, but it won’t let girls choose to wear hijab to school. Not ever Muslim girl wants to wear hijab. But I know many who have fought their parents because they want to wear the hijab but their parents don’t want them to.
Laïcité is meant to protect secularism. Instead, it’s strict government control of religion, mainly non-Catholic ones, and especially Islam.
When they banned schoolchildren from wearing religion symbols, they included Hijabs, Sikh turbans, and kippahs altogether, but only “big” crosses.
And you can’t pretend France isn’t completely fine with an all out assault on Islam. Right ing politician Marie Le Pen called for a complete ban on the hijab, and was told she was being too soft on Islam.
This isn’t about terrorism, this is about hatred for Muslims, which has long been part of French history, despite Muslims making up the majority of the Free French Army in World War II.
It is not Islam that is in a crisis. It is France.
Sources:
https://5pillarsuk.com/2021/04/02/frenc ... under-18s/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aj4Hvk27A0M
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by CoraSpia » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:22 am
by Islamic Holy Sites » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:23 am
Comfed wrote:France: We love freedom of expression!
Also France: You can’t wear these religious clothes!
It’s not about freedom of expression, is it?
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by Insaanistan » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:24 am
Picairn wrote:Okay this is egregious, but this hasn't become law yet, right? What are its chances?
by Kilobugya » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:36 am
by Nakena » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:41 am
Kilobugya wrote:As I said in another thread, the Senate is mostly a club of 50+ rich white men. That they start saying to teenage colored girls what they should and shouldn't wear is oppressive, and doing that in the name of "laïcité" or "la République" is disgusting. But they do that for a single purpose: to move the public debate on questions of Islam and immigration, where the right feel they can attract votes, instead of questions of economics, healthcare, education, social welfare where their proposals are vastly rejected by voters.
by Insaanistan » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:45 am
Nakena wrote:Kilobugya wrote:As I said in another thread, the Senate is mostly a club of 50+ rich white men. That they start saying to teenage colored girls what they should and shouldn't wear is oppressive, and doing that in the name of "laïcité" or "la République" is disgusting. But they do that for a single purpose: to move the public debate on questions of Islam and immigration, where the right feel they can attract votes, instead of questions of economics, healthcare, education, social welfare where their proposals are vastly rejected by voters.
Seems like certain american ideas are starting to gain a hold in france, too.
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by New Antarcticania » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:49 am
by Nakena » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:53 am
by New Antarcticania » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:54 am
Nakena wrote:This isn't really surprising. It's what happens when liberal society is at the end with it's mantra because the world doesnt rolls with it to its big surprise and then tries to impose liberalism by force. In the end it absolished itself. It's end stage liberalism.
by Risottia » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:55 am
Insaanistan wrote: Just a reminder, this is a country that allows kids of any age to drink alcohol at home, but it won’t let girls choose to wear hijab to school.
by Kilobugya » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:04 am
by Vorausen » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:14 am
by Adamede » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:14 am
J o J wrote:Insaanistan wrote:Or if they banned crop tops and short shorts until they were 18?
I would support that. If women don't like being sexualized then they should not wear exposing clothing. People need to wear decent clothes and be civilized in general. Same for men too, no more of those jeans with holes the size of watermelons or shirts that are literally just tatters because they think they're cool. Nobody wants to see your body or underwear unless they're perverted.
A better thing to have said would have been "What if they banned wearing the Judenhut?"
by Vorausen » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:21 am
J o J wrote:Insaanistan wrote:Or if they banned crop tops and short shorts until they were 18?
I would support that. If women don't like being sexualized then they should not wear exposing clothing. People need to wear decent clothes and be civilized in general. Same for men too, no more of those jeans with holes the size of watermelons or shirts that are literally just tatters because they think they're cool. Nobody wants to see your body or underwear unless they're perverted.
A better thing to have said would have been "What if they banned wearing the Judenhut?"
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