Trial of Derek Chauvin: A Juror Supported What?!

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So the cop who killed that guy is being fucked over in court right now by the prosecution, right?

By the defense, too. They're doing such a shit job

Good. The asshole who killed him should get convicted.

[Kowani]

Amazing
Dr. David Fowler (former chief medical examiner for Maryland) is focusing a lot on carbon monoxide as contributing to Floyd's cause of death. Fowler says Floyd's face was close to the squad car's tail pipe while the car was running & that people with significant heart disease are adversely affected by carbon monoxide, says that Floyd died of a "sudden cardiac event" because of a combination of factors that affected his ability to get oxygen to his heart including his enlarged heart, narrowed arteries, meth, fentanyl, and carbon monoxide from the car.

Later: Prosecutor Jerry Blackwell starts off his cross-examination of David Fowler, immediately getting Fowler to testify that he did not factor in the additional weight of Chauvin's equipment adding to the weight on George Floyd's body. Prosecutor Blackwell also gets David Fowler to testify that there was NO finding of carbon monoxide poisoning in the medical examiner's autopsy report and there was NO testing of the level of carbon monoxide in the air coming from the squad car.
Prosecutor Blackwell asks David Fowler if he just assumed the squad car was running or if he was provided actual evidence.

Fowler says he didn't make an assumption but an "evaluation" that the car was running based on seeing "water dripping from the tail pipe."

[Galloism]

Amazing
Dr. David Fowler (former chief medical examiner for Maryland) is focusing a lot on carbon monoxide as contributing to Floyd's cause of death. Fowler says Floyd's face was close to the squad car's tail pipe while the car was running & that people with significant heart disease are adversely affected by carbon monoxide, says that Floyd died of a "sudden cardiac event" because of a combination of factors that affected his ability to get oxygen to his heart including his enlarged heart, narrowed arteries, meth, fentanyl, and carbon monoxide from the car.

Later: Prosecutor Jerry Blackwell starts off his cross-examination of David Fowler, immediately getting Fowler to testify that he did not factor in the additional weight of Chauvin's equipment adding to the weight on George Floyd's body. Prosecutor Blackwell also gets David Fowler to testify that there was NO finding of carbon monoxide poisoning in the medical examiner's autopsy report and there was NO testing of the level of carbon monoxide in the air coming from the squad car.
Prosecutor Blackwell asks David Fowler if he just assumed the squad car was running or if he was provided actual evidence.

Fowler says he didn't make an assumption but an "evaluation" that the car was running based on seeing "water dripping from the tail pipe."

Um, that doesn't mean anything.

It's true catalytic converters make cars drip a little water in a lot cases while running, but the act of shutting a vehicle off also causes water to drip, as the hot exhaust gases cool down and the water vapor contained therein condenses from the temperature change.

[Ethel mermania]

Amazing
Dr. David Fowler (former chief medical examiner for Maryland) is focusing a lot on carbon monoxide as contributing to Floyd's cause of death. Fowler says Floyd's face was close to the squad car's tail pipe while the car was running & that people with significant heart disease are adversely affected by carbon monoxide, says that Floyd died of a "sudden cardiac event" because of a combination of factors that affected his ability to get oxygen to his heart including his enlarged heart, narrowed arteries, meth, fentanyl, and carbon monoxide from the car.

Later: Prosecutor Jerry Blackwell starts off his cross-examination of David Fowler, immediately getting Fowler to testify that he did not factor in the additional weight of Chauvin's equipment adding to the weight on George Floyd's body. Prosecutor Blackwell also gets David Fowler to testify that there was NO finding of carbon monoxide poisoning in the medical examiner's autopsy report and there was NO testing of the level of carbon monoxide in the air coming from the squad car.
Prosecutor Blackwell asks David Fowler if he just assumed the squad car was running or if he was provided actual evidence.

Fowler says he didn't make an assumption but an "evaluation" that the car was running based on seeing "water dripping from the tail pipe."

Um, that doesn't mean anything.

It's true catalytic converters make cars drip a little water in a lot cases while running, but the act of shutting a vehicle off also causes water to drip, as the hot exhaust gases cool down and the water vapor contained therein condenses from the temperature change.

Pfft, like your car even has an exhaust pipe.

[Galloism]

Um, that doesn't mean anything.

It's true catalytic converters make cars drip a little water in a lot cases while running, but the act of shutting a vehicle off also causes water to drip, as the hot exhaust gases cool down and the water vapor contained therein condenses from the temperature change.

Pfft, like your car even has an exhaust pipe.

Well, no... but carbon monoxide poisoning isn't really relevant when it comes to my car either.

[Mestovakia]

Waiting for the defence to blame a flashing neon sign down the road next.

[Dogmeat]

Um, that doesn't mean anything.

It's true catalytic converters make cars drip a little water in a lot cases while running, but the act of shutting a vehicle off also causes water to drip, as the hot exhaust gases cool down and the water vapor contained therein condenses from the temperature change.

Pfft, like your car even has an exhaust pipe.

It's more like an exhaust "shaft" that runs directly into the reactor core. About the size of a wamp rat.

[Ethel mermania]

Pfft, like your car even has an exhaust pipe.

It's more like an exhaust "shaft" that runs directly into the reactor core. About the size of a wamp rat.

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[Mestovakia]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/us/d ... dment.html

He's taken the fifth amendment.

[The New California Republic]

Chauvin pleads the Fifth.

[Mestovakia]

Chauvin pleads the Fifth.

We both posted the news at the same minute.

[Kilobugya]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/us/derek-chauvin-testify-fifth-amendment.html

He's taken the fifth amendment.

Chauvin pleads the Fifth.

Well, it would have been suicide to not do it. He's just on a too weak position to survive being grilled by the prosecutors.

[Zurkir]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/us/derek-chauvin-testify-fifth-amendment.html

He's taken the fifth amendment.

Chauvin pleads the Fifth.

Well, it would have been suicide to not do it. He's just on a too weak position to survive being grilled by the prosecutors.

My thoughts exactly. His best chance is to just leave it to the lawyer and even then things are not looking good for him.

[San Lumen]

Well, it would have been suicide to not do it. He's just on a too weak position to survive being grilled by the prosecutors.

My thoughts exactly. His best chance is to just leave it to the lawyer and even then things are not looking good for him.

I still don;t have any faith he will be convicted. Too many officers have gotten acquitted.

[Galloism]

My thoughts exactly. His best chance is to just leave it to the lawyer and even then things are not looking good for him.

I still don;t have any faith he will be convicted. Too many officers have gotten acquitted.

Juries can be unpredictable of course, but the prosecution made a good case, and did a good job impeaching defense witnesses.

Defense did a fairly decent job impeaching some of the prosecution's witnesses but not others, and didn't seem to really have a coherent case theory.

I'd say the odds of tagging him on at least 3rd degree murder are good.

[San Lumen]

I still don;t have any faith he will be convicted. Too many officers have gotten acquitted.

Juries can be unpredictable of course, but the prosecution made a good case, and did a good job impeaching defense witnesses.

Defense did a fairly decent job impeaching some of the prosecution's witnesses but not others, and didn't seem to really have a coherent case theory.

I'd say the odds of tagging him on at least 3rd degree murder are good.

I hope so. If he's not convicted it will prove indicting cops is merely for show and the system is inherently biased towards them.

[Genivaria]

If he's still given a death sentence, there's going to be a group rioting because they feel like he shouldn't get a death sentence.

That is an impossibility in a state that has banned the death penalty.

Even if they did allow it I would eat my shoe if he actually received it.
From what I've read literally only one police officer in American history has ever received the death penalty in regards to their on duty behavior, and that was in 1910.

[Kowani]

The Defense rests, judge Cahill will not allow the prosecution to enter new evidence about Floyd’s blood work.

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[Xmara]

I still don;t have any faith he will be convicted. Too many officers have gotten acquitted.

Juries can be unpredictable of course, but the prosecution made a good case, and did a good job impeaching defense witnesses.

Defense did a fairly decent job impeaching some of the prosecution's witnesses but not others, and didn't seem to really have a coherent case theory.

I'd say the odds of tagging him on at least 3rd degree murder are good.

I agree. I don’t see how they could find him not guilty.

[Kanadorika]

That is an impossibility in a state that has banned the death penalty.

Even if they did allow it I would eat my shoe if he actually received it.
From what I've read literally only one police officer in American history has ever received the death penalty in regards to their on duty behavior, and that was in 1910.

Using the power of the state to execute cops who think they have power and abuse it is unfathomably based.

[Shofercia]

Chauvin's best hope is a mistrial. If that's the case, can we all learn from it, sequester the Jury, and put them behind a one way mirror in high profile trials like this?

[Austreylia]

I previously would've said to throw the book at Officer Chauvin.

But, seeing as people rioted and looted even when he was arrested, I hope that he is acquitted.

[Kilobugya]

I previously would've said to throw the book at Officer Chauvin.

But, seeing as people rioted and looted even when he was arrested, I hope that he is acquitted.

What does that have anything to do with his guilt or innocence ? You would set free a murderer and send a strong signal of impunity for other police officers to kill with total impunity, because you disagree with how some people reacted to the death of George Floyd ? That's a very weird conception of justice.

[The New California Republic]

I previously would've said to throw the book at Officer Chauvin.

But, seeing as people rioted and looted even when he was arrested, I hope that he is acquitted.

Well that's a very weirdly vindictive stance, isn't it?

[Andsed]

I previously would've said to throw the book at Officer Chauvin.

But, seeing as people rioted and looted even when he was arrested, I hope that he is acquitted.

So your idea to address police brutality and unrest caused by it, is to acquit an officer with one of the most blatant acts of it as a middle finger to the people protesting police brutality? Do you want more unrest?