Trial of Derek Chauvin: A Juror Supported What?!

[San Lumen]

Where do you propose it be held instead?

Some other city in Minnesota.

Name where

[Ethel mermania]

Some other city in Minnesota.

Name where

I have only been in Minnesota once in my life I don't know the state, someone from there could make a much better suggestion, I would probably rule out st.paul though.

[San Lumen]

Name where

I have only been in Minnesota once in my life I don't know the state, someone from there could make a much better suggestion, I would probably rule out st.paul though.

It couldn't be held there. The trial would have to held in the same county as the DA who brought the indictment. I don't think you can try someone outside of the where the crime took place.

I also don't think other cities in Hennepin County have courthouses where a trial could take place. Courthouses are almost always in the county seat.

[Ethel mermania]

I have only been in Minnesota once in my life I don't know the state, someone from there could make a much better suggestion, I would probably rule out st.paul though.

It couldn't be held there. The trial would have to held in the same county as the DA who brought the indictment. I don't think you can try someone outside of the where the crime took place.

I also don't think other cities in Hennepin County have courthouses where a trial could take place. Courthouses are almost always in the county seat.

I don't know Minnesota law well enough to comment. In ny that would not be true.

Edit: your wrong about mn.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/court_rules/cr/id/24/

Rule 24.03Change of Venue

Subd. 1.Grounds.

The case may be transferred to another county:

a. If the court is satisfied that a fair and impartial trial cannot be had in the county in which the case is pending;

b. For the convenience of parties and witnesses;

c. In the interests of justice;

d. As provided by Rule 25.02 governing prejudicial publicity.

[Andsed]

Damn, I was hoping this wouldn't happen, but here we are, introducing, idiota numero uno: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/judge-war ... 9395525925

This is in NBC, it's a pro-Dem station. Why the fuck would you want to take photos near the Jury Box? She claims ignorance, but that's fucking bullshit. During the initial introduction, the Judge asked the Jury to stay within the lines to avoid broadcast cameras. That means that said lines were fairly visible to anyone in the Courtroom. Why the fuck would you...

And the sad part is that even though this should have no bearing on the trial, since Chauvin is guilty as sin, now a Juror might claim that he or she was intimidated by that idiot, and there's a mistrial claim. Who let that idiot into the Courtroom?

Of fucking course some dumbass how to come along and just give the defense reason to try and go for a mistrial. Probably just really wanted some exclusives photos and had no self control.

[San Lumen]

Damn, I was hoping this wouldn't happen, but here we are, introducing, idiota numero uno: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/judge-war ... 9395525925

This is in NBC, it's a pro-Dem station. Why the fuck would you want to take photos near the Jury Box? She claims ignorance, but that's fucking bullshit. During the initial introduction, the Judge asked the Jury to stay within the lines to avoid broadcast cameras. That means that said lines were fairly visible to anyone in the Courtroom. Why the fuck would you...

And the sad part is that even though this should have no bearing on the trial, since Chauvin is guilty as sin, now a Juror might claim that he or she was intimidated by that idiot, and there's a mistrial claim. Who let that idiot into the Courtroom?

Of fucking course some dumbass how to come along and just give the defense reason to try and go for a mistrial. Probably just really wanted some exclusives photos and had no self control.

The judge should refuse to grant it.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

If you came from an alternate universe, maybe. But in this universe, he is an echo chamber that constantly spews bullshit.

I have never heard of Tim Pool. I’m guessing he’s another Ben Shapiro?

Eh sort of, he calls himself "Liberal" when really he is a conservative missinformation spreader.

[Kilobugya]

Venue

Where the heck should it be instead?

I think we already answered that: the only place the trial should be is on Mars, with the rovers as jury, and even they would find him guilty.

[Kowani]

The prosecution has concluded, the defense has begun

i will get the most important parts later, but i have class

[Crockerland]

It's literally been proven that he didn't.

Nothing has been "proven", the coroner knows that BLM will target him and his family and burn down his city

this trial should have been held somewhere else, Chauvin is not getting a fair trial

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

[Ethel mermania]

Nothing has been "proven", the coroner knows that BLM will target him and his family and burn down his city

this trial should have been held somewhere else, Chauvin is not getting a fair trial

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

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[Kowani]

Defense witness Barry Brodd (an ex-cop who now runs a company that consults on police practices and use of force) testifies that in his opinion "Derek Chauvin was justified, was acting with objective reasonableness and was following Minneapolis Police Department policies & current standard of law enforcement" in his interactions with Floyd

Brodd testifies that he thinks Chauvin did not use "deadly force."

Compares it to a domestic violence incident where a subject is tased, falls to the ground, and hits their head. Brodd says that's not deadly force, it's an accidental death. (?????)
Brodd says Chauvin & officers were "valid" in not moving George Floyd from prone position to side recovery position (per MPD protocol) because of space limitations, street traffic, "crowd issues took the attention of the officers" and because Floyd "was still somewhat resisting"
(cross-ex)
On cross examination, the prosecutor gets defense witness Brodd to testify that the image of Chauvin with his knee on Floyd's neck "could be a use of force" because it "could produce pain."

He had earlier testified that he thinks the prone control is not a "use of force."
On cross examination, prosecutor gets defense witness Barry Brodd to testify that even if a bystander is doing something an officer finds threatening, irritating, or distracting, that does not justify use of force against someone else who has no control over the bystander

Cross: You would agree that use of force must remain reasonable throughout the entire time? Yes.
You would agree someone in your custody is in your care? Yes.
You would agree sanctity of life/protection of public cornerstones of MPD policy? Yes.

After Brodd said that Chauvin seemed to let up on the pressure... Schleicher showed this photo and played the clip -- "You see his foot off the ground? Wouldn't that put more pressure?"
Brodd said that the foot lifted at that point because of Floyd's movements.

[Panslavicland]

Having seen the whole of the prosecution's case it looks like they've really botched this. Totally failed to prove Chauvin's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt before the defence even began their case. Not that I'm really surprised, they're trying to prove something that never happened, it was always going to be a challenge.

[Kowani]

ah, the disinfo agents come crawling out of the woodwork
god i hate these culture wars

[Odreria]

Having seen the whole of the prosecution's case it looks like they've really botched this. Totally failed to prove Chauvin's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt before the defence even began their case. Not that I'm really surprised, they're trying to prove something that never happened, it was always going to be a challenge.

You seem like a nice fellow

[Esalia]

Having seen the whole of the prosecution's case it looks like they've really botched this. Totally failed to prove Chauvin's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt before the defence even began their case. Not that I'm really surprised, they're trying to prove something that never happened, it was always going to be a challenge.

Meanwhile, in reality...

[Andsed]

Having seen the whole of the prosecution's case it looks like they've really botched this. Totally failed to prove Chauvin's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt before the defence even began their case. Not that I'm really surprised, they're trying to prove something that never happened, it was always going to be a challenge.

Just going to drop this here:

Nothing has been "proven", the coroner knows that BLM will target him and his family and burn down his city

this trial should have been held somewhere else, Chauvin is not getting a fair trial

Quite a lot has been proven actually:

Senior members of the department have testified his actions were not part of their training and that they were largely unnecessary. Eyewitness including a firefighter have also testified demonstrating how poorly Floyd was being handled. Then of course you have a medical examiner saying while drugs and heart disease contributed to Floyd's death it was not the main cause. That was also preceded by three medical professionals all saying the cause of death was the neck restraint.

Cause the prosecution has proven quite a bit.

[Katganistan]

Unless he's given a death sentence, there's going to be group rioting because they believe the punishment isn't enough.

If he's still given a death sentence, there's going to be a group rioting because they feel like he shouldn't get a death sentence.

That is an impossibility in a state that has banned the death penalty.

[Kowani]

Chauvin defense use-of-force expert Barry Brodd says a "perfectly compliant" suspect would have been "resting comfortably" on pavement during an arrest.

Steve Schleicher, prosecutor: "So attempting to breathe while restrained is being slightly non-compliant?"

Brodd: "No."

[San Lumen]

If he's still given a death sentence, there's going to be a group rioting because they feel like he shouldn't get a death sentence.

That is an impossibility in a state that has banned the death penalty.

It was abolished in 1911.

[The Nihilistic view]

Chauvin defense use-of-force expert Barry Brodd says a "perfectly compliant" suspect would have been "resting comfortably" on pavement during an arrest.

Steve Schleicher, prosecutor: "So attempting to breathe while restrained is being slightly non-compliant?"

Brodd: "No."

Yeah I laughed at that earlier. I mean how fucked up do you have to be to suggest that struggling to try and breathe because of the actions of somebody restraing you is valid grounds to keep stopping somebody from being able to breathe.

Things we learnt today.

1) Somebody watching you do your job is valid grounds to kill somebody that has no control over the people watching the incident.

2) It isn't reasonable when unable to breathe to try and get to a position where you can breathe. What you should do is just carmly stay not being able to breathe. Because obviously when you stop moving the force will cease to be applied to you, it won't continue for 3 minutes after you have ceased to move.

3) The defence actually for some strange reason proved it was possible to deal with a non-compliant and agitated Gorge Floyd without killing him.

[Katganistan]

That is an impossibility in a state that has banned the death penalty.

It was abolished in 1911.

...yes, I was saying it's not possible because it was banned.....

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So the cop who killed that guy is being fucked over in court right now by the prosecution, right?

[The Grand Leader]

So the cop who killed that guy is being fucked over in court right now by the prosecution, right?

By the defense, too. They're doing such a shit job

[San Lumen]

So the cop who killed that guy is being fucked over in court right now by the prosecution, right?

By the defense, too. They're doing such a shit job

I hope he gets convicted.