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Is Derek Chauvin Guilty?

Yes, he was completely responsible.
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I don’t know. I need more information first.
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No, Floyd had a heart attack.
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No, Floyd had a drug overdose.
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Other
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:28 am

Juristonia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Maybe if the Taliban had had better training they wouldn't have killed so many people.

Some people in the twin towers were on drugs!

It's probably true that some of them would have died of some unrelated cause if they had stayed home that day.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:15 am

German Incelistan wrote:Free Derek Chauvin!


I would free every member of La Eme from prison before freeing a killer cop.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:17 am

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Yeah, I think that was the biggest part of his motivation, with maybe a touch of underlying racism and/or unhealthy ideas about what it means to be a man.


It's really telling that even with criticizing cops that people use the most toned down and sympathetic language.

I never heard anyone describe bin Laden as having a touch of underlying Islamism and some unhealthy ideas of what it means to be a freedom fighter.


That's why I don't hold back. The police in many areas of the US and the world is more like a criminal gang that preys upon the vulnerable and defenseless and what Derek Chauvin did was just part of a violent and brutal culture in the MPD that earned it all the way deserved hatred it got in many parts of Minneapolis. It isnt a few bad apples. It's the whole department.
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Postby Zurkir » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:20 am

Page wrote:
The 189 wrote:
Yeah, I think that was the biggest part of his motivation, with maybe a touch of underlying racism and/or unhealthy ideas about what it means to be a man.


It's really telling that even with criticizing cops that people use the most toned down and sympathetic language.

I never heard anyone describe bin Laden as having a touch of underlying Islamism and some unhealthy ideas of what it means to be a freedom fighter.


That is a clumsy and peevish comparison.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:24 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Page wrote:
It's really telling that even with criticizing cops that people use the most toned down and sympathetic language.

I never heard anyone describe bin Laden as having a touch of underlying Islamism and some unhealthy ideas of what it means to be a freedom fighter.


That's why I don't hold back. The police in many areas of the US and the world is more like a criminal gang that preys upon the vulnerable and defenseless and what Derek Chauvin did was just part of a violent and brutal culture in the MPD that earned it all the way deserved hatred it got in many parts of Minneapolis. It isnt a few bad apples. It's the whole department.

Which of course is why the whole dept is testifying against him.
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Postby Warriors of Truth » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:51 am

Floyd clearly had a drug overdose

sadly Chauvin is going to be a martyr, because the jury knows that BLM will burn down cities if they uphold the law

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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:53 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:Floyd clearly had a drug overdose

It's literally been proven that he didn't.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:55 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:Floyd clearly had a drug overdose

sadly Chauvin is going to be a martyr, because the jury knows that BLM will burn down cities if they uphold the law


Utter rubbish. Chauvin murdered him and if he gets off it will show trials of cops are largely for show.

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Postby Warriors of Truth » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:55 am

Atheris wrote:
Warriors of Truth wrote:Floyd clearly had a drug overdose

It's literally been proven that he didn't.


Nothing has been "proven", the coroner knows that BLM will target him and his family and burn down his city

this trial should have been held somewhere else, Chauvin is not getting a fair trial

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Postby Esthe » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:55 am

Atheris wrote:
Warriors of Truth wrote:Floyd clearly had a drug overdose

It's literally been proven that he didn't.

Your name is misleading.
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Postby Aeritai » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:56 am

Strange as soon as this thread started we been getting a flood of Chauvin Defenders.... I guess NSG Summer is getting close.
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Postby Warriors of Truth » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
Warriors of Truth wrote:Floyd clearly had a drug overdose

sadly Chauvin is going to be a martyr, because the jury knows that BLM will burn down cities if they uphold the law


Utter rubbish. Chauvin murdered him and if he gets off it will show trials of cops are largely for show.


Disagree with the law all you want, but there is evidence that Chauvin did nothing ilegal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xstsGo5f31s

You can only be judged by the law, not by feelings.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:59 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Utter rubbish. Chauvin murdered him and if he gets off it will show trials of cops are largely for show.


Disagree with the law all you want, but there is evidence that Chauvin did nothing ilegal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xstsGo5f31s

You can only be judged by the law, not by feelings.

He killed George Floyd. He committed third degree murder.
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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:00 am

Esthe wrote:
Atheris wrote:It's literally been proven that he didn't.

Your name is misleading.

Yes, I'm aware I'm not actually a bush viper, unfortunately.

Warriors of Truth wrote:
Atheris wrote:It's literally been proven that he didn't.


Nothing has been "proven", the coroner knows that BLM will target him and his family and burn down his city

Ah, yes. BLM, the decentralized movement that's protests have been over 98% peaceful will burn down an entire city.
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Postby Warriors of Truth » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:03 am

Atheris wrote:
Warriors of Truth wrote:
Disagree with the law all you want, but there is evidence that Chauvin did nothing ilegal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xstsGo5f31s

You can only be judged by the law, not by feelings.

He killed George Floyd. He committed third degree murder.


Thats your opinion equal to mine, only a fair trial can say so

the only fact here is that he is not getting a fair trial

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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:05 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:
Atheris wrote:He killed George Floyd. He committed third degree murder.


Thats your opinion equal to mine, only a fair trial can say so

the only fact here is that he is not getting a fair trial

He is getting a fair trial. His use of unnecessary force is being scrutinized by coroners, witnesses, an impartial jury, and an impartial judge in due process. That's literally the definition of a free trial.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:07 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:
Atheris wrote:He killed George Floyd. He committed third degree murder.


Thats your opinion equal to mine, only a fair trial can say so

the only fact here is that he is not getting a fair trial

A good rule of thumb is that someone who uses a Ben Shapiro video as proof of anything likely doesn't have an opinion backed by fact or reality.

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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:08 am

Heloin wrote:
Warriors of Truth wrote:
Thats your opinion equal to mine, only a fair trial can say so

the only fact here is that he is not getting a fair trial

A good rule of thumb is that someone who uses a Ben Shapiro video as proof of anything likely doesn't have an opinion backed by fact or reality.

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Postby Warriors of Truth » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:09 am

Atheris wrote:
Warriors of Truth wrote:
Thats your opinion equal to mine, only a fair trial can say so

the only fact here is that he is not getting a fair trial

He is getting a fair trial. His use of unnecessary force is being scrutinized by coroners, witnesses, an impartial jury, and an impartial judge in due process. That's literally the definition of a free trial.


BLM is threatening violence and jurors admit they feel threatened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnQF4FJ0KU

would you call fair the "trials" of black people that happened in the south during Jim Crow?

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Postby Atheris » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:10 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:
Atheris wrote:He is getting a fair trial. His use of unnecessary force is being scrutinized by coroners, witnesses, an impartial jury, and an impartial judge in due process. That's literally the definition of a free trial.


BLM is threatening violence and jurors admit they feel threatened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnQF4FJ0KU

Okay, then the jurors can be replaced. This is literally what happened in Al Capone's trial.

would you call fair the "trials" of black people that happened in the south during Jim Crow?

False equivalence. White people are not being systematically targeted by racism and racial prejudice like black people were during Jim Crow.
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Postby Warriors of Truth » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:10 am

Heloin wrote:
Warriors of Truth wrote:
Thats your opinion equal to mine, only a fair trial can say so

the only fact here is that he is not getting a fair trial

A good rule of thumb is that someone who uses a Ben Shapiro video as proof of anything likely doesn't have an opinion backed by fact or reality.


Watch the video, he actually presents evidence from the witnesses

dislike the guy all you want, but dont cancel him just because of that

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Postby Andsed » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:13 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:
Atheris wrote:It's literally been proven that he didn't.


Nothing has been "proven", the coroner knows that BLM will target him and his family and burn down his city

this trial should have been held somewhere else, Chauvin is not getting a fair trial

Quite a lot has been proven actually:

Senior members of the department have testified his actions were not part of their training and that they were largely unnecessary. Eyewitness including a firefighter have also testified demonstrating how poorly Floyd was being handled. Then of course you have a medical examiner saying while drugs and heart disease contributed to Floyd's death it was not the main cause. That was also preceded by three medical professionals all saying the cause of death was the neck restraint.
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Postby Xmara » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:13 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:
Atheris wrote:It's literally been proven that he didn't.


Nothing has been "proven", the coroner knows that BLM will target him and his family and burn down his city

this trial should have been held somewhere else, Chauvin is not getting a fair trial

And that coroner would be committing perjury if he lied.

Chauvin killed Floyd.
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Postby Warriors of Truth » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:13 am

Atheris wrote:
Warriors of Truth wrote:
BLM is threatening violence and jurors admit they feel threatened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnQF4FJ0KU

Okay, then the jurors can be replaced. This is literally what happened in Al Capone's trial.

would you call fair the "trials" of black people that happened in the south during Jim Crow?

False equivalence. White people are not being systematically targeted by racism and racial prejudice like black people were during Jim Crow.


This is a show trial, and is bound to go to the supreme court

That is a false argument, the issue here is the threat of violence not racism. jurors and witnesses are being threatened by BLM activists, much as they were by the KKK during Jim Crow

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:13 am

Warriors of Truth wrote:
Heloin wrote:A good rule of thumb is that someone who uses a Ben Shapiro video as proof of anything likely doesn't have an opinion backed by fact or reality.


Watch the video, he actually presents evidence from the witnesses

dislike the guy all you want, but dont cancel him just because of that

Weird how you'll dismiss testimony given in court, but videos from infamously dishonest media figures you trust without question. Weird.

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