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Is Derek Chauvin Guilty?

Yes, he was completely responsible.
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62%
I don’t know. I need more information first.
79
8%
No, Floyd had a heart attack.
75
7%
No, Floyd had a drug overdose.
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Other
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Total votes : 1014

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:53 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Even the brothers in blue turned their back on him.

Derek Chauvin's life is basically over. He's lost his freedom and any respect from the populace, and he'll be in prison for a while.


When every cop called to the stand from the dispatcher to the Chief of Police is a prosecution witness...you just might be in a world of shit.

maybe its a sign the police brotherhood is finally showing cracks.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:53 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:No, I'm not gonna debate you when you refuse to listen.


I'm also confused as to how Lumen finds debating about Waters/Pelosi and their districts as off topic in a thread where Waters and Pelosi literally attempted to make themselves the topic.


He's right though. American politicians should really be talked about in the American Politics thread. Talk about what they said directly pertaining to the trial here, further implications don't really belong here.

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Postby Esalia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:54 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)
it's just
so bad


Did none of these people pull a random guy off the street and go "hey would it be bad if I implied it was good that Floyd died/did shit like this"?

Because I think they should've.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:54 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Even the brothers in blue turned their back on him.

Derek Chauvin's life is basically over. He's lost his freedom and any respect from the populace, and he'll be in prison for a while.


When every cop called to the stand from the dispatcher to the Chief of Police is a prosecution witness...you just might be in a world of shit.


Chauvin was so brutal, even the system said "no we can't defend you."
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Postby South Americanastan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:54 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)
it's just
so bad

This is, by far, the stupidest and most ill-informed thing I have ever seen.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:55 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)
it's just
so bad


Whoever did this should be fired.
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Kowani wrote:
it's just
so bad

I hope this team falls to fucking shit this year.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


Even the brothers in blue turned their back on him.

Derek Chauvin's life is basically over. He's lost his freedom and any respect from the populace, and he'll be in prison for a while.


I guess all cops aren’t bastards. ;)
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kowani wrote:(Image)
it's just
so bad


Whoever did this should be fired.

Into the goddamn sun.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:57 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Even the brothers in blue turned their back on him.

Derek Chauvin's life is basically over. He's lost his freedom and any respect from the populace, and he'll be in prison for a while.


I guess all cops aren’t bastards. ;)


Them throwing one guy under the bus doesn't change that the system is still very crooked and needs to be fixed. Chauvin went to prison, now let's see this be repeated.
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Postby Grenartia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:(Image)
it's just
so bad

What? Who the hell thought that was a good idea?


Obviously, someone who was already celebrating 4/20 when they heard the news.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:57 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Even the brothers in blue turned their back on him.

Derek Chauvin's life is basically over. He's lost his freedom and any respect from the populace, and he'll be in prison for a while.


I guess all cops aren’t bastards. ;)


No, they're just smart enough to avoid latching onto the sinking ship that was this case. American policing still needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:58 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Postauthoritarian America wrote:
When every cop called to the stand from the dispatcher to the Chief of Police is a prosecution witness...you just might be in a world of shit.


Chauvin was so brutal, even the system said "no we can't defend you."


The President of the Fraternal Order of Police just praised the verdict on CNN and said the jury got it right.They are the largest national police union.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:00 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I guess all cops aren’t bastards. ;)


No, they're just smart enough to avoid latching onto the sinking ship that was this case. American policing still needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up.


You can start by voting in county and municipal elections and voting for people who are in favor of change for mayor and city council along with county offices such as DA and Sheriff.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:01 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
I guess all cops aren’t bastards. ;)


Them throwing one guy under the bus doesn't change that the system is still very crooked and needs to be fixed. Chauvin went to prison, now let's see this be repeated.


Throwing under a bus? No, they spoke out because they saw a police officer abuse his power and kill a man that didn’t need to die. I agree, killer cops and cops that abuse their authority need to be held accountable, which means prison time.

But they’re are good cops, even great cops, and they hate the cops that abuse their authority MORE than you hate all cops.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No, they're just smart enough to avoid latching onto the sinking ship that was this case. American policing still needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up.


You can start by voting in county and municipal elections and voting for people who are in favor of change for mayor and city council along with county offices such as DA and Sheriff.


The entire American system needs to be destroyed and rebuilt if its to survive this century. Voting won't do shit.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:02 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
You can start by voting in county and municipal elections and voting for people who are in favor of change for mayor and city council along with county offices such as DA and Sheriff.


The entire American system needs to be destroyed and rebuilt if its to survive this century. Voting won't do shit.


And what do you suggest doing?
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Postby Atheris » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:02 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
You can start by voting in county and municipal elections and voting for people who are in favor of change for mayor and city council along with county offices such as DA and Sheriff.


The entire American system needs to be destroyed and rebuilt if its to survive this century. Voting won't do shit.

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Postby LibRight Libertarianism » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:03 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)
it's just
so bad


IMO it would not be as bad if the logo was not at the bottom. It would still be kinda cringe worthy though.

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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No, they're just smart enough to avoid latching onto the sinking ship that was this case. American policing still needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up.


You can start by voting in county and municipal elections and voting for people who are in favor of change for mayor and city council along with county offices such as DA and Sheriff.


People like Rojava don’t have faith in Democracy, thus they believe voting is futile. They say “we been voting for x-number of years and we haven’t seen the change we need, what we need is revolution.”
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:03 pm

don't forget, the other three officers (Tou Thao, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane), will be charged on August 23rd, with aiding and abetting 2nd degree murder and manslaughter
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:04 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
You can start by voting in county and municipal elections and voting for people who are in favor of change for mayor and city council along with county offices such as DA and Sheriff.


People like Rojava don’t have faith in Democracy, thus they believe voting is futile. They say “we been voting for x-number of years and we haven’t seen the change we need, what we need is revolution.”


A factor in why Chauvin got convicted likely has to do with state AG Ellison. His office took charge of the case and it was tried in state court.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:05 pm

Atheris wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The entire American system needs to be destroyed and rebuilt if its to survive this century. Voting won't do shit.

edgy


This might as well read "I don't know about the civilizational cliff that we're dangling off of". Go jump down the climate rabbit hole, it's horrifying and will change your entire perspective on the world.

Kowani wrote:don't forget, the other three officers (Tou Thao, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane), will be charged on August 23rd, with aiding and abetting 2nd degree murder and manslaughter


I have doubts all 4 will be convicted tbh. Chauvin was pretty likely, but the others are less so.
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Postby Atheris » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:06 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Atheris wrote:edgy


This might as well read "I don't know about the civilizational cliff that we're dangling off of". Go jump down the climate rabbit hole, it's horrifying and will change your entire perspective on the world.

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