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Is Derek Chauvin Guilty?

Yes, he was completely responsible.
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I don’t know. I need more information first.
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No, Floyd had a heart attack.
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No, Floyd had a drug overdose.
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Other
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Total votes : 1014

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Postby Hiram Land » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:02 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:Ah thanks. I feel like Brooklyn or the Bronx will explode first in NYC if the verdict is not guilty.

It's warm enough that even if it's not guilty, it's not unlikely that some people will get together to smash some police van windows or something tbh, just because New Yorkers have a truly psychotic fondness for causing public nuisances

Sounds like 1977 all over again. I doubt I'll be surprised that some police windows might be broken, but I doubt it'll turn into full out riots or looting, except for some isolated incidents.
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Postby Dejado Atras » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Dejado Atras wrote:
First degree murder.

Second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life. Third degree is manslaughter, the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.

There’s no proof Chauvin intentionally killed Floyd be it premeditated or in the heat of the moment.

From what I heard third degree was the ultimate likelihood though you had second degree being tossed around.

It’s actually different in MN as they have separate third degree and manslaughter charges. In MN third degree is not manslaughter


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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:03 pm

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Austreylia wrote:I wonder if their rifles are loaded with magazines this time.


Are you wanting the National Guard to shoot innocent civilians?

The Guard is more likely to support the protesters than shoot them. That’s what a cop would do
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:03 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:The ones in Minneapolis are not. Thankfully.

I'm not so sure.

It might provide a bit of a deterrent to any potential rioting.

deterrents are only useful if you're actually willing to use them, so this is not a way to weasel out of what you said and pretend that you just want them to have loaded guns but don't want anyone to get hurt
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:04 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Austreylia wrote:I'm not so sure.

It might provide a bit of a deterrent to any potential rioting.


Nothing says free democracy like using lethal force against those people who decide to exercise their free speech.

I said rioting, I didn't mention anything about free speech.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:04 pm

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The Reformed American Republic wrote:I recall reading that she could jeopardize the entire case, though I expect nothing less from someone connected to the NOI. She should be censored.

Ok, you're like the fourth person to do this, but...

Censured and censored are not the same thing.

Censured is what I meant. My spellcheck changed it to "censored" for some reason, though I am aware of the difference.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:04 pm

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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:04 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:The ones in Minneapolis are not. Thankfully.

I'm not so sure.

It might provide a bit of a deterrent to any potential rioting.

Because rioters are well known for their tendency to carefully inspect distant magazine wells before riots. It's literally the only thing that holds them back.
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Postby Hiram Land » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:04 pm

The camera is now facing the judge.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:04 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
Senkaku wrote:It's warm enough that even if it's not guilty, it's not unlikely that some people will get together to smash some police van windows or something tbh, just because New Yorkers have a truly psychotic fondness for causing public nuisances

Sounds like 1977 all over again. I doubt I'll be surprised that some police windows might be broken, but I doubt it'll turn into full out riots or looting, except for some isolated incidents.

I was not here in 1977 (or even on Earth) but I'm pretty sure it's not...?

Thermodolia wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Are you wanting the National Guard to shoot innocent civilians?

The Guard is more likely to support the protesters than shoot them. That’s what a cop would do

Did any Guardies defect last summer? I don't think so, right?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:05 pm

Nousa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Nothing says free democracy like using lethal force against those people who decide to exercise their free speech.


So you support the freeing of political prisoners from January 6th?


So how is actively trying to kill the Vice President and overthrow the democratically elected government because you can't accept your side lost a free and fair election free speech?
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Postby Hiram Land » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:05 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:Sounds like 1977 all over again. I doubt I'll be surprised that some police windows might be broken, but I doubt it'll turn into full out riots or looting, except for some isolated incidents.

I was not here in 1977 (or even on Earth) but I'm pretty sure it's not...?

Referencing what happened in the blackouts in 1977.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:05 pm

Hiram Land wrote:The camera is now facing the judge.


I haven’t been this anxious since the Capitol stupidity.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:05 pm

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Postby Xmara » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:06 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:The camera is now facing the judge.


I haven’t been this anxious since the Capitol stupidity.

Same
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Postby Silvedania » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:06 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:The camera is now facing the judge.


I haven’t been this anxious since the Capitol stupidity.

Same, same.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:06 pm

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:06 pm

Xmara wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I haven’t been this anxious since the Capitol stupidity.

Same


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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:06 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:Sounds like 1977 all over again. I doubt I'll be surprised that some police windows might be broken, but I doubt it'll turn into full out riots or looting, except for some isolated incidents.

I was not here in 1977 (or even on Earth) but I'm pretty sure it's not...?

Thermodolia wrote:The Guard is more likely to support the protesters than shoot them. That’s what a cop would do

Did any Guardies defect last summer? I don't think so, right?

The guard in Atlanta partied with protesters
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:07 pm

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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:07 pm

guilty on count 1
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Hiram Land » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:07 pm

Verdict being announced. Guilty on 2nd degree murder, 3rd degree murder, 2nd degree manslaughter
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:07 pm

Guilty on all counts.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:07 pm

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:07 pm

Kowani wrote:guilty on count 1


I’m surprised but glad.
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