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Is Derek Chauvin Guilty?

Yes, he was completely responsible.
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I don’t know. I need more information first.
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No, Floyd had a heart attack.
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No, Floyd had a drug overdose.
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Other
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:45 pm

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After 2020, and the beginning of 2021, this feels like deja vu. Fuck.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:46 pm

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:47 pm


This and the National Guard movements nationwide stress me out so much, probably mainly just because I don't understand how court works and am a little too paranoid about the surveillance capacity (and will) of the executive branch. Is it at all likely that the White House was informed of the decision once they came to it but before they announced, and has quietly told people to prepare because they anticipate a highly adverse reaction?
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:47 pm

I feel confident that, at the very least, the verdict will not be "not guilty."

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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:47 pm


I wonder if their rifles are loaded with magazines this time.
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:47 pm

Galloism wrote:
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Pretty much this.

That's the most generous read of your statements I ever heard.

If that's what you meant, fine, but there was no inkling of that from what you said.


So you didn't understand how I was pointing out the idiocy of blaming the riots and damages to property against the many lives that have been taken by death, or by incarceration by the brutality of the US Police and justice system?

Okay...

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:47 pm

Austreylia wrote:

"They didn't ACTUALLY destroy an entire city! They just caused $500 million worth of damage! HA!"

I guess $500M just ain't what it used to be
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:48 pm

Senkaku wrote:

This and the National Guard movements nationwide stress me out so much, probably mainly just because I don't understand how court works and am a little too paranoid about the surveillance capacity (and will) of the executive branch. Is it at all likely that the White House was informed of the decision once they came to it but before they announced, and has quietly told people to prepare because they anticipate a highly adverse reaction?


...I doubt it. Even in a high-profile case like this, I don't believe the legislative or executive branch is briefed on the outcome before the announcement by the presiding judge. Still, I understand the apprehension. My understanding of it is that big city mayors recognize the possibility of an adverse outcome and just want to be as proactive as possible, just in case.

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Postby Celritannia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:48 pm

Austreylia wrote:

I wonder if their rifles are loaded with magazines this time.


Are you wanting the National Guard to shoot innocent civilians?

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:48 pm

Galloism wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Pretty much this.

That's the most generous read of your statements I ever heard.

If that's what you meant, fine, but there was no inkling of that from what you said.

There was definitely at least one inkling.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:49 pm

Austreylia wrote:

I wonder if their rifles are loaded with magazines this time.


Settle down, Mayor Daley.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:49 pm

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:49 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Austreylia wrote:"They didn't ACTUALLY destroy an entire city! They just caused $500 million worth of damage! HA!"

I guess $500M just ain't what it used to be


$500m damage across 1500 buildings is totally equally heinous to completely destroying 267,171 buildings and killing ~100,000 people.
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:50 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Settle down, Mayor Daley.

Well, I'm just wondering.

I'm pretty sure that the NGs posted to the Capitol after the storming had rifles, but they weren't loaded with magazines.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:51 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Senkaku wrote:This and the National Guard movements nationwide stress me out so much, probably mainly just because I don't understand how court works and am a little too paranoid about the surveillance capacity (and will) of the executive branch. Is it at all likely that the White House was informed of the decision once they came to it but before they announced, and has quietly told people to prepare because they anticipate a highly adverse reaction?


...I doubt it. Even in a high-profile case like this, I don't believe the legislative or executive branch is briefed on the outcome before the announcement by the presiding judge. Still, I understand the apprehension.

I was thinking more if they just have someone in the courthouse who informally tips them off or something, idk.
My understanding of it is that big city mayors recognize the possibility of an adverse outcome and just want to be as proactive as possible, just in case.

Yeah, that's definitely the simpler and more reasonable explanation, I just have a paranoid streak a mile wide that tends to crop up at moments that feel like inflection points for the nation or whatever.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:51 pm

My brother says things in NYC look tense.
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Postby Deblar » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:52 pm

Austreylia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Settle down, Mayor Daley.

Well, I'm just wondering.

I'm pretty sure that the NGs posted to the Capitol after the storming had rifles, but they weren't loaded with magazines.

That was different. Thousands of trump worshippers had just attempted to overthrow the government and slaughter lawmakers.

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Postby Galloism » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:52 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
...I doubt it. Even in a high-profile case like this, I don't believe the legislative or executive branch is briefed on the outcome before the announcement by the presiding judge. Still, I understand the apprehension.

I was thinking more if they just have someone in the courthouse who informally tips them off or something, idk.
My understanding of it is that big city mayors recognize the possibility of an adverse outcome and just want to be as proactive as possible, just in case.

Yeah, that's definitely the simpler and more reasonable explanation, I just have a paranoid streak a mile wide that tends to crop up at moments that feel like inflection points for the nation or whatever.

We're likely to have at least some unrest no matter what the result is. Either celebratory riots or the other kind.

Moving the forces in place will keep them small and manageable. We don't want this to be like the end of a football game or something.
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:52 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
...I doubt it. Even in a high-profile case like this, I don't believe the legislative or executive branch is briefed on the outcome before the announcement by the presiding judge. Still, I understand the apprehension.

I was thinking more if they just have someone in the courthouse who informally tips them off or something, idk.
My understanding of it is that big city mayors recognize the possibility of an adverse outcome and just want to be as proactive as possible, just in case.

Yeah, that's definitely the simpler and more reasonable explanation, I just have a paranoid streak a mile wide that tends to crop up at moments that feel like inflection points for the nation or whatever.


No, I get it, I have the butterflies in my stomach too. I guess it is within the realm of possibility that someone in the courthouse would informally tip the administration off (and assume a ton of risk in doing so), but I also don't see it as particularly likely.

Either way, we'll either feel some relief or some dread in the next 5-10 minutes.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:52 pm

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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:53 pm


Maybe if the GOP controlled the House, but they don't.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:53 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:My brother says things in NYC look tense.

When do they not

what part of NYC, though?

Nousa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:My brother says things in NYC look tense.


Another long hot summer? The system can't take much more of this.

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Postby Hiram Land » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:53 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:My brother says things in NYC look tense.

I'm in the Bronx. Right now I don't hear any chants or anything of the sort. Don't know which borough your brother is in.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:53 pm

Nousa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:My brother says things in NYC look tense.


Another long hot summer? The system can't take much more of this.


Over Chauvin verdict.

Anyone in NYC that can give an impression?
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