Trial of Derek Chauvin: A Juror Supported What?!

[San Lumen]

Im gonna be very pissed if this one person's bullshit ends up leading to Chauvin somehow going free. Like you just had to tell the truth stupid.

A couple things

A mistrial doesn't mean Chauvin goes free. He would still be subject to the same bail conditions and would be retried. The state isn't going to drop this.

2nd. The source has to be true.


I do think if it is true the state should go after that juror for perjury and that juror should serve time. If the story is true

It’s no guarantee he’d be convicted again.

[Picairn]

If this doesn’t prove that the jury was biased, I don’t know what will.

BLM have protested and rioted in situations where the officers were absolutely correct, so going to one of their events is a huge issue to not disclose.

1 juror =/= the jury

Furthermore, the police officers were certainly not correct in the killing of Floyd. You can't justify kneeling on someone's neck for 9 minutes.

Inb4 "but he died of an overdose!" claims that has been debunked many times, in this very same thread.

[Ethel mermania]

A couple things

A mistrial doesn't mean Chauvin goes free. He would still be subject to the same bail conditions and would be retried. The state isn't going to drop this.

2nd. The source has to be true.


I do think if it is true the state should go after that juror for perjury and that juror should serve time. If the story is true

It’s no guarantee he’d be convicted again.

He is still entitled to due process, and with a biased and lying juror due process was not served.

[San Lumen]

It’s no guarantee he’d be convicted again.

He is still entitled to due process, and with a biased and lying juror due process was not served.

It was not biased and the Court of Appeals should deny his appeal.

[Ethel mermania]

If this doesn’t prove that the jury was biased, I don’t know what will.

BLM have protested and rioted in situations where the officers were absolutely correct, so going to one of their events is a huge issue to not disclose.

1 juror =/= the jury

Furthermore, the police officers were certainly not correct in the killing of Floyd. You can't justify kneeling on someone's neck for 9 minutes.

Inb4 "but he died of an overdose!" claims that has been debunked many times, in this very same thread.

The evidence was overwhelming against Chauvin. Doesnt mean he got a fair trial.

[Ethel mermania]

He is still entitled to due process, and with a biased and lying juror due process was not served.

It was not biased and the Court of Appeals should deny his appeal.

We disagree

[Ifreann]

If this doesn’t prove that the jury was biased, I don’t know what will.

BLM have protested and rioted in situations where the officers were absolutely correct, so going to one of their events is a huge issue to not disclose.

How is it that one potentially biased juror proves that all the other jurors were also biased?

[San Lumen]

1 juror =/= the jury

Furthermore, the police officers were certainly not correct in the killing of Floyd. You can't justify kneeling on someone's neck for 9 minutes.

Inb4 "but he died of an overdose!" claims that has been debunked many times, in this very same thread.

The evidence was overwhelming against Chauvin. Doesnt mean he got a fair trial.

He did and belongs in prison. The court of appeals should deny his request.

[Ethel mermania]

If this doesn’t prove that the jury was biased, I don’t know what will.

BLM have protested and rioted in situations where the officers were absolutely correct, so going to one of their events is a huge issue to not disclose.

How is it that one potentially biased juror proves that all the other jurors were also biased?

Dont have to prove that. This juror Tainted the juror room. Anything he said wasn't said in good faith

[Shofercia]

This, that's very good news for Chauvin and co. BLM is inherently a political social movement, hiding that information is a huge boost in favor of a mistrial.

Im gonna be very pissed if this one person's bullshit ends up leading to Chauvin somehow going free. Like you just had to tell the truth stupid.

It's not just one thing. There's that, there's the Maxine Waters quote, the failure to sequester the Jury, the photo of the Jurors taken, and so on... there was plenty of idiocy, but apparently pointing this out means that I want a killer to go free, even though I repeatedly stated that he should've been convicted of Manslaughter, which apparently means "desperately wanting a mistrial" according to Vass...

Im gonna be very pissed if this one person's bullshit ends up leading to Chauvin somehow going free. Like you just had to tell the truth stupid.

Many people will be. Why would you say this to the media?

Because you have to tell the truth in Court, or remain silent, irrespective of whether or not the media's there.

Im gonna be very pissed if this one person's bullshit ends up leading to Chauvin somehow going free. Like you just had to tell the truth stupid.

A couple things

A mistrial doesn't mean Chauvin goes free. He would still be subject to the same bail conditions and would be retried. The state isn't going to drop this.

2nd. The source has to be true.


I do think if it is true the state should go after that juror for perjury and that juror should serve time. If the story is true

Agree 100%

If this doesn’t prove that the jury was biased, I don’t know what will.

BLM have protested and rioted in situations where the officers were absolutely correct, so going to one of their events is a huge issue to not disclose.

And which situations would those be?

Perhaps something like the story from CBS, quoted below, although you might find it to be objective Vass: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pigs-in-a- ... es-police/

ST. PAUL, Minn. - Protesters in a Black Lives Matter march held outside the Minnesota State Fair over the weekend were captured on video yelling "pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon," a statement that some law enforcement members viewed as targeting police officers. An organizer behind the march, however, is standing by the group's chant to fry police "like bacon," saying Monday that law enforcement officials are cherry-picking a 30-second chant to take issue with an otherwise peaceful protest.

But St. Paul Police Federation President Dave Titus told CBS Minnesota the chant, which took place during Saturday's four-hour march around the fairgrounds in St. Paul, was ignorant and disgusting. The group's protest came hours after a suburban Houston officer was gunned down.

Seems a tad biased there against cops Vass, wouldn't you agree?

[San Lumen]

How is it that one potentially biased juror proves that all the other jurors were also biased?

Dont have to prove that. This juror Tainted the juror room. Anything he said wasn't said in good faith

How? Chauvin shouldn’t get a new trial were he could possibly get acquitted. I see no evidence of how this juror tainted the verdict.

[Shofercia]

A couple things

A mistrial doesn't mean Chauvin goes free. He would still be subject to the same bail conditions and would be retried. The state isn't going to drop this.

2nd. The source has to be true.


I do think if it is true the state should go after that juror for perjury and that juror should serve time. If the story is true

It’s no guarantee he’d be convicted again.

Not really seeing how someone killing a dude on camera might not be convicted, perhaps you could explain that to me Lumen.

If this doesn’t prove that the jury was biased, I don’t know what will.

BLM have protested and rioted in situations where the officers were absolutely correct, so going to one of their events is a huge issue to not disclose.

How is it that one potentially biased juror proves that all the other jurors were also biased?

A defendant is entitled to an unbiased Jury of his peers in the US. One juror being heavily biased is grounds for a mistrial.

[Phenix Springs]

If this doesn’t prove that the jury was biased, I don’t know what will.

BLM have protested and rioted in situations where the officers were absolutely correct, so going to one of their events is a huge issue to not disclose.

And which situations would those be?

Guy who had a knife and was shot, guy who was ramming officers and was shot, guy who stole a taser and was shot.

[San Lumen]

It’s no guarantee he’d be convicted again.

Not really seeing how someone killing a dude on camera might not be convicted, perhaps you could explain that to me Lumen.

How is it that one potentially biased juror proves that all the other jurors were also biased?

A defendant is entitled to an unbiased Jury of his peers in the US. One juror being heavily biased is grounds for a mistrial.

A new trial is a waste of time and money and what’s to say the new jury wouldn’t acquit after a mistrial.

What evidence is there he was heavily biased?

[Picairn]

Guy who had a knife and was shot, guy who was ramming officers and was shot, guy who stole a taser and was shot.

Links please

[Shofercia]

Dont have to prove that. This juror Tainted the juror room. Anything he said wasn't said in good faith

How? Chauvin shouldn’t get a new trial were he could possibly get acquitted. I see no evidence of how this juror tainted the verdict.

You don't need to see that. All Chauvin's attorney has to prove is that the single juror went to a rally wearing a BLM t-shirt, and that BLM is heavily anti-cop, in order to show heavy bias on said juror's part, and there's the photo of him actually doing that:

Not really seeing how someone killing a dude on camera might not be convicted, perhaps you could explain that to me Lumen.

A new trial is a waste of time and money and what’s to say the new jury wouldn’t acquit after a mistrial.

What evidence is there he was heavily biased?

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See above. Also, everyone's owed a fair trial, even if they're as guilty as sin, or as guilty as Chauvin, irrespective of whether it's a waste of money or not. The government wastes plenty of money, rather heroically, on things like an upgrade of public transportation in San Francisco as workers are fleeing the city, and I'd be happy to discuss how to save money with you in another thread.

[Esalia]

Dont have to prove that. This juror Tainted the juror room. Anything he said wasn't said in good faith

How? Chauvin shouldn’t get a new trial were he could possibly get acquitted. I see no evidence of how this juror tainted the verdict.

If you believe the juror was biased (which there is a very good chance they were, considering what they did and what this case was about), then everything they said about what the verdict should be comes from a position of being inherently biased against Chauvin, and any decision the rest of the jurors made that was influenced by this juror is potentially biased.

I want Chauvin to spend the rest of his life behind bars as much as the next guy, but if it turns out a juror was biased, that should at least be investigated or you're pretty much playing into the hands of the "the jury was biased against Chauvin" crowd.

[San Lumen]

How? Chauvin shouldn’t get a new trial were he could possibly get acquitted. I see no evidence of how this juror tainted the verdict.

You don't need to see that. All Chauvin's attorney has to prove is that the single Juror went to a rally wearing a BLM t-shirt, and that BLM is heavily anti-cop, in order to show heavy bias on said Juror's part, and there's the photo of him actually doing that:

Hopefully the court of appeals doesn’t buy it.

[Phenix Springs]

Guy who had a knife and was shot, guy who was ramming officers and was shot, guy who stole a taser and was shot.

Links please

It was the cases of Jacob Blake, Dolal Id and Rayshard Brooks.

[Shofercia]

You don't need to see that. All Chauvin's attorney has to prove is that the single Juror went to a rally wearing a BLM t-shirt, and that BLM is heavily anti-cop, in order to show heavy bias on said Juror's part, and there's the photo of him actually doing that:

Hopefully the court of appeals doesn’t buy it.

Won't buy what? A juror wearing a t-shirt that said juror's actually wearing?

[Esalia]

Not really seeing how someone killing a dude on camera might not be convicted, perhaps you could explain that to me Lumen.




A defendant is entitled to an unbiased Jury of his peers in the US. One juror being heavily biased is grounds for a mistrial.

A new trial is a waste of time and money and what’s to say the new jury wouldn’t acquit after a mistrial.

What evidence is there he was heavily biased?

I'm sure the time and money spent is worth it when it comes to making sure that Chauvin gets a just trial and thus a just conviction if it turns out that this juror is enough to declare a mistrial.

[San Lumen]

A new trial is a waste of time and money and what’s to say the new jury wouldn’t acquit after a mistrial.

What evidence is there he was heavily biased?

I'm sure the time and money spent is worth it when it comes to making sure that Chauvin gets a just trial and thus a just conviction if it turns out that this juror is enough to declare a mistrial.

He did get a just trial.

[Shofercia]

I'm sure the time and money spent is worth it when it comes to making sure that Chauvin gets a just trial and thus a just conviction if it turns out that this juror is enough to declare a mistrial.

He did get a just trial.

A just trial = 12 impartial jurors
12 impartial jurors = 12 impartial jurors
Ergo, 12 impartial jurors do NOT = 11 impartial jurors + 1 biased juror

Would you like me to go into more detail Lumen?

[Esalia]

I'm sure the time and money spent is worth it when it comes to making sure that Chauvin gets a just trial and thus a just conviction if it turns out that this juror is enough to declare a mistrial.

He did get a just trial.

We'll have to see if the courts see this juror as enough to declare a mistrial.

[San Lumen]

He did get a just trial.

We'll have to see if the courts see this juror as enough to declare a mistrial.

Hopefully the appeals court doesn’t feel that way.