I imagine he will be given a heads up before the verdict is read. It's only sensible in a situation like this.
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by Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:36 pm
Dresderstan wrote:Austreylia wrote:I'll probably get ten people screaming "whataboutism" at me but, seeing as you're "anti-government", how did you feel about the Trump supporters storming the capitol?
Would have been more supportive if it was just a anti government riot instead of trying to keep Trump in power.
Senkaku wrote:Austreylia wrote:The problem is that you can only riot so much until people start getting sick and tired of seeing their cities being destroyed.
biweekly reminder that riots are not equivalent to the destruction of entire cities, despite the rhetorical equivalency constantly being made by both the right and even mainstream centrist/lib outlets
the set of "cities destroyed by fire" includes Chicago (1871), Seattle (1889), Hiroshima (1945), Paradise (2018), London (1666), Rome (64), Tokyo (1945), and others, but not Minneapolis or any other major American city (2020-2021)
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by Vassenor » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:39 pm
Austreylia wrote:Dresderstan wrote:Would have been more supportive if it was just a anti government riot instead of trying to keep Trump in power.
Hm. I can respect that.Senkaku wrote:biweekly reminder that riots are not equivalent to the destruction of entire cities, despite the rhetorical equivalency constantly being made by both the right and even mainstream centrist/lib outlets
the set of "cities destroyed by fire" includes Chicago (1871), Seattle (1889), Hiroshima (1945), Paradise (2018), London (1666), Rome (64), Tokyo (1945), and others, but not Minneapolis or any other major American city (2020-2021)
Pedantic, but yes, you're right.
But i'd say that causing $500 million dollars of damage to a single city warrants the usage of the word.
by Galloism » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:39 pm
Celritannia wrote:Galloism wrote:No, it's whataboutism. You are deflecting from the actual suffering of people by asking "what about these other people suffering".
Which is whataboutism.
So you are telling me, these riots, and protests, are not about the treatment of black people by police?
Well I never /S.
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by Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:41 pm
Vassenor wrote:See, this is what it looks like when an entire city is destroyed by fire. At no point has Minneapolis looked like this. Quit it with the overwrought hyperbole.
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by Celritannia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:42 pm
Senkaku wrote:Galloism wrote:No, it's whataboutism. You are deflecting from the actual suffering of people by asking "what about these other people suffering".
Which is whataboutism.
I read it less as whataboutism and more as questioning Austreylia's premise that "people will start getting sick and tired of seeing their cities destroyed." Given that riots, "riots," and protests, even large ones, really don't have that much impact on most people in most parts of major cities (you can be a few blocks away from a crowd of thousands and barely know it), I think it's reasonable to highlight that it's quite likely that so long as people are as angry as they are now about police killings and misconduct, they will continue to riot or tolerate rioting, even if it means they start seeing some burned-out buildings on the way to work.
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by Silvedania » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:43 pm
Austreylia wrote:Vassenor wrote:See, this is what it looks like when an entire city is destroyed by fire. At no point has Minneapolis looked like this. Quit it with the overwrought hyperbole.
"They didn't ACTUALLY destroy an entire city! They just caused $500 million worth of damage! HA!"
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by Galloism » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:43 pm
Celritannia wrote:Senkaku wrote:I read it less as whataboutism and more as questioning Austreylia's premise that "people will start getting sick and tired of seeing their cities destroyed." Given that riots, "riots," and protests, even large ones, really don't have that much impact on most people in most parts of major cities (you can be a few blocks away from a crowd of thousands and barely know it), I think it's reasonable to highlight that it's quite likely that so long as people are as angry as they are now about police killings and misconduct, they will continue to riot or tolerate rioting, even if it means they start seeing some burned-out buildings on the way to work.
Pretty much this.
by The New California Republic » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:44 pm
Austreylia wrote:Vassenor wrote:See, this is what it looks like when an entire city is destroyed by fire. At no point has Minneapolis looked like this. Quit it with the overwrought hyperbole.
"They didn't ACTUALLY destroy an entire city! They just caused $500 million worth of damage! HA!"
by Celritannia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:44 pm
Austreylia wrote:Vassenor wrote:See, this is what it looks like when an entire city is destroyed by fire. At no point has Minneapolis looked like this. Quit it with the overwrought hyperbole.
"They didn't ACTUALLY destroy an entire city! They just caused $500 million worth of damage! HA!"
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by Vassenor » Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:44 pm
Austreylia wrote:Vassenor wrote:See, this is what it looks like when an entire city is destroyed by fire. At no point has Minneapolis looked like this. Quit it with the overwrought hyperbole.
"They didn't ACTUALLY destroy an entire city! They just caused $500 million worth of damage! HA!"
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