Trial of Derek Chauvin: A Juror Supported What?!

[Xmara]

Unless the outcome is so lopsided (causing a very very bad outcome), I don't see that as being the case.

There's going to be a very, very bad outcome regardless of what verdict is reached.

BLM and their "allies" will riot about literally anything.

There's only gonna be a major riot if he's acquitted. I highly doubt there's gonna be any rioting if he's found guilty.

If anything I'm sure there'll people celebrating if he's found guilty.

[Austreylia]

I too remember when millions of people who protested over the summer all simultaneously rioted.

*yawns*

So you should.

After all, billions in damage was caused, as well as 20+ deaths.

[The New California Republic]

I would like to point out that however this comes out, there's something to consider:

A jury of 6 white people, 4 black people, and 2 multi racial people, 5 of them men and 7 of them women, will decide the fate of Derek Chauvin. And they came to a unanimous decision in about a day.

This indicates that matters were clear to the jury that, whatever the result, this was the right one - regardless of the jurors race or sex.

Yes, it means that the evidence upon which they have based their judgment is overwhelmingly convincing enough to settle the matter in a matter of hours, that the balance of probabilities were weighed heavily in one direction by the evidence.

[Major-Tom]

I too remember when millions of people who protested over the summer all simultaneously rioted.

*yawns*

So you should.

After all, billions in damage was caused, as well as 20+ deaths.

I'm not so sure you're following....

[Galloism]

I would like to point out that however this comes out, there's something to consider:

A jury of 6 white people, 4 black people, and 2 multi racial people, 5 of them men and 7 of them women, will decide the fate of Derek Chauvin. And they came to a unanimous decision in about a day.

This indicates that matters were clear to the jury that, whatever the result, this was the right one - regardless of the jurors race or sex.

Yes, it means that the evidence upon which they have based their judgment is overwhelmingly convincing enough to settle the matter in a matter of hours, that the balance of probabilities were weighed heavily in one direction by the evidence.

Not balance of probabilities - that's the wrong standard. That's civil trials.

The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Was that achieved or not.

(I say yes, for murder 3 - but I'm not a juror)

[Kowani]

National Guard is in downtown Minneapolis

[Celritannia]

I too remember when millions of people who protested over the summer all simultaneously rioted.

*yawns*

So you should.

After all, billions in damage was caused, as well as 20+ deaths.

Compared to, say, hundreds of police shootings of innocent civilians a year, the highest incarceration rates for those with minority backgrounds.
Yeah, real shame how some people lose their lives and or freedoms for the actions of brutality, but let's talk more about financial loses.

[Drew Durrnil]

Yes, it means that the evidence upon which they have based their judgment is overwhelmingly convincing enough to settle the matter in a matter of hours, that the balance of probabilities were weighed heavily in one direction by the evidence.

Not balance of probabilities - that's the wrong standard. That's civil trials.

The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Was that achieved or not.

(I say yes, for murder 3 - but I'm not a juror)

Yes for manslaughter, Yes for Murder 3, No for Murder 2.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yes, it means that the evidence upon which they have based their judgment is overwhelmingly convincing enough to settle the matter in a matter of hours, that the balance of probabilities were weighed heavily in one direction by the evidence.

Not balance of probabilities - that's the wrong standard. That's civil trials.

The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Was that achieved or not.

(I say yes, for murder 3 - but I'm not a juror)

Murder 3 is what? 20 years behind bars?

[The New California Republic]

Yes, it means that the evidence upon which they have based their judgment is overwhelmingly convincing enough to settle the matter in a matter of hours, that the balance of probabilities were weighed heavily in one direction by the evidence.

Not balance of probabilities - that's the wrong standard. That's civil trials.

The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Was that achieved or not.

(I say yes, for murder 3 - but I'm not a juror)

Yes sorry slip of the tongue.

[South Americanastan]

Not balance of probabilities - that's the wrong standard. That's civil trials.

The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Was that achieved or not.

(I say yes, for murder 3 - but I'm not a juror)

Murder 3 is what? 20 years behind bars?

20? Oh fuck. Well, here go the riots again.

[Galloism]

Not balance of probabilities - that's the wrong standard. That's civil trials.

The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Was that achieved or not.

(I say yes, for murder 3 - but I'm not a juror)

Murder 3 is what? 20 years behind bars?

Murder in the 3rd degree is max 25 years -

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

In practice, that's usually more like 10.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Murder 3 is what? 20 years behind bars?

20? Oh fuck. Well, here go the riots again.

I think that’s a long sentence. No need to doom-say.

[Senkaku]

Killing someone intentionally is murder you know.

First degree murder.

Second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life. Third degree is manslaughter, the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.

There’s no proof Chauvin intentionally killed Floyd be it premeditated or in the heat of the moment.

Your honor, I didn't intentionally kill this man, either with malice aforethought or in the heat of the moment! How could I have known that frying his vital organs with a maser could kill him?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Murder 3 is what? 20 years behind bars?

Murder in the 3rd degree is max 25 years -

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

In practice, that's usually more like 10.

He ought to serve the entire sentence, imo.

[Dresderstan]

There's going to be a very, very bad outcome regardless of what verdict is reached.

BLM and their "allies" will riot about literally anything.

There's only gonna be a major riot if he's acquitted.

Which is why I want there to be riots, show the world the system is rigged and needs to be torn down piece by piece.

[Xmara]

Not balance of probabilities - that's the wrong standard. That's civil trials.

The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Was that achieved or not.

(I say yes, for murder 3 - but I'm not a juror)

Murder 3 is what? 20 years behind bars?

Up to 25 years, plus fines of up to $40,000.

[Aeritai]

I never understood why people assume BLM supporters are all "rioters" back when this whole George Floyd thing started there was a BLM protest in my area. You know what happened? They marched peacefully down the road and didn't burn down any buildings. Heck even the local cops helped them and joined them in the protest.

[Fartsniffage]

Murder 3 is what? 20 years behind bars?

Murder in the 3rd degree is max 25 years -

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

In practice, that's usually more like 10.

And then there are the federal tax fraud and election fraud charges to be considered. And the FBI investigating a stop he made in 2017 for a breach of constitutional rights.

The chap is going to spend quite a bit of time in prison regardless of the outcome of this trial.

[Dejado Atras]

I’m curious to the factoring of Maxine Waters’ comments, though. The judge said her comments may be grounds for an appeal, so even if Chauvin is convicted the token loose cannon could end up with her foot in her mouth. Of course I could be wrong.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Murder 3 is what? 20 years behind bars?

Up to 25 years, plus fines of up to $40,000.

I’m sure though that the defense will appeal, regardless of verdict.

[Thermodolia]

Killing someone intentionally is murder you know.

First degree murder.

Second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life. Third degree is manslaughter, the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.

There’s no proof Chauvin intentionally killed Floyd be it premeditated or in the heat of the moment.

From what I heard third degree was the ultimate likelihood though you had second degree being tossed around.

It’s actually different in MN as they have separate third degree and manslaughter charges. In MN third degree is not manslaughter

[Austreylia]

Which is why I want there to be riots, show the world the system is rigged and needs to be torn down piece by piece.

The problem is that you can only riot so much until people start getting sick and tired of seeing their cities being destroyed.

[Galloism]

Murder in the 3rd degree is max 25 years -

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

In practice, that's usually more like 10.

And then there are the federal tax fraud and election fraud charges to be considered. And the FBI investigating a stop he made in 2017 for a breach of constitutional rights.

The chap is going to spend quite a bit of time in prison regardless of the outcome of this trial.

Wait, election fraud?

I heard about the tax issues, but I hadn't heard about election fraud.

[The New California Republic]

I never understood why people assume BLM supporters are all "rioters" back when this whole George Floyd thing started there was a BLM protest in my area. You know what happened? They marched peacefully down the road and didn't burn down any buildings. Heck even the local cops helped them and joined them in the protest.

It's just some bs that's peddled to demonise the whole movement.