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Is Derek Chauvin Guilty?

Yes, he was completely responsible.
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I don’t know. I need more information first.
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No, Floyd had a heart attack.
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No, Floyd had a drug overdose.
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Postby Xmara » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:20 am

How long do you think it’ll take for the jury to reach a verdict? I think we will have one by the end of the week.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:22 am

Xmara wrote:How long do you think it’ll take for the jury to reach a verdict? I think we will have one by the end of the week.

I would expect by then as well.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:24 am

San Lumen wrote:
Xmara wrote:How long do you think it’ll take for the jury to reach a verdict? I think we will have one by the end of the week.

I would expect by then as well.

It should be today or tomorrow.
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:26 am

Galloism wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I mean, I don't believe in capital punishment on principle. So what Chauvin did was especially heinous.

I have a very conflicted view of capital punishment.

While I get that sometimes it is the only just result, I am less than convinced the state can administer it fairly. So I'm against, but mostly because I don't trust it's being done fairly, not against the punishment per se, if that makes sense.


I feel the same way.

I don't object to the theoretical concept. I just object to the way it's being used in practice and I think abolishing it would be an improvement over the status quo.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:29 am

The Sherpa Empire wrote:
Galloism wrote:I have a very conflicted view of capital punishment.

While I get that sometimes it is the only just result, I am less than convinced the state can administer it fairly. So I'm against, but mostly because I don't trust it's being done fairly, not against the punishment per se, if that makes sense.


I feel the same way.

I don't object to the theoretical concept. I just object to the way it's being used in practice and I think abolishing it would be an improvement over the status quo.

Very well-put.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:30 am

Galloism wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I mean, I don't believe in capital punishment on principle. So what Chauvin did was especially heinous.

I have a very conflicted view of capital punishment.

While I get that sometimes it is the only just result, I am less than convinced the state can administer it fairly. So I'm against, but mostly because I don't trust it's being done fairly, not against the punishment per se, if that makes sense.


I have a similar opinion with an additional thing of worrying about it being used on an innocent.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:33 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Galloism wrote:I have a very conflicted view of capital punishment.

While I get that sometimes it is the only just result, I am less than convinced the state can administer it fairly. So I'm against, but mostly because I don't trust it's being done fairly, not against the punishment per se, if that makes sense.


I have a similar opinion with an additional thing of worrying about it being used on an innocent.


Also think what Arizona could have done more usefully with the $1.5 million they pissed away on stockpiling drugs for carrying out executions.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:34 pm

Verdict has been reached.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:35 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Verdict has been reached.

That was fast.

Which could be good or bad.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:37 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Verdict has been reached.

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Postby Xmara » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:40 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Galloism wrote:I have a very conflicted view of capital punishment.

While I get that sometimes it is the only just result, I am less than convinced the state can administer it fairly. So I'm against, but mostly because I don't trust it's being done fairly, not against the punishment per se, if that makes sense.


I have a similar opinion with an additional thing of worrying about it being used on an innocent.

I have a mixed view on capital punishment. I think it should only be used if the crime is especially heinous and if it can be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the person is guilty (think Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson, etc.). But other than those cases, I'm opposed to it on grounds that innocent people may be wrongly executed.
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Postby Xmara » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:41 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Verdict has been reached.

Wow

I wasn't expecting a verdict until Friday.

Hopefully he will be found guilty. If he is I wonder what the sentence will be.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:42 pm

Xmara wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Verdict has been reached.

Wow

I wasn't expecting a verdict until Friday.

Hopefully he will be found guilty. If he is I wonder what the sentence will be.

That will depend largely on if he is convicted and what of.
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:45 pm

Here's to hoping that Officer Chauvin is acquitted.
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Postby South Americanastan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:47 pm

Austreylia wrote:Here's to hoping that Officer Chauvin is acquitted.

Whether you think he's guilty or not he's not a police officer anymore. He was fired long ago.
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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:49 pm

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Austreylia wrote:Here's to hoping that Officer Chauvin is acquitted.

Whether you think he's guilty or not he's not a police officer anymore. He was fired long ago.

And President Trump isn't President anymore, but can you guess what I call him?
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Postby Xmara » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:49 pm

Galloism wrote:
Xmara wrote:Wow

I wasn't expecting a verdict until Friday.

Hopefully he will be found guilty. If he is I wonder what the sentence will be.

That will depend largely on if he is convicted and what of.

So I looked up what the sentences are for the various charges against him in the state of Minnesota

Second degree manslaughter- Up to 10 years in prison, but usually serve less than 5

Third degree murder- Up to 25 years in prison and $40,000 in fines

Second degree murder- Up to 40 years in prison
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:50 pm

Austreylia wrote:Here's to hoping that Officer Chauvin is acquitted.


That's pretty messed up.
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Postby Rusozak » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:50 pm

Austreylia wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:Whether you think he's guilty or not he's not a police officer anymore. He was fired long ago.

And President Trump isn't President anymore, but can you guess what I call him?


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Austreylia wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:Whether you think he's guilty or not he's not a police officer anymore. He was fired long ago.

And President Donald Trump isn't President anymore, but can you guess what I call him?

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Postby Hiram Land » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:51 pm

If Chauvin is found guilty, there might be riots against the verdict. If Chauvin is found not guilty or if there is a mistrial, more than likely there will be riots on par with those in '92 in Los Angeles. More than likely that sentiment has been repeated time and time again, but it's best to remind you once again, knowing the verdict is coming any minute now.

Here's to hoping that justice will be dealt with against Derek Chauvin.
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Postby Xmara » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:51 pm

Austreylia wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:Whether you think he's guilty or not he's not a police officer anymore. He was fired long ago.

And President Trump isn't President anymore, but can you guess what I call him?

I have a few things I call him but I think I'd get banned if I shared them
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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:52 pm

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Postby Insaanistan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:53 pm

Austreylia wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:Whether you think he's guilty or not he's not a police officer anymore. He was fired long ago.

And President Trump isn't President anymore, but can you guess what I call him?

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Postby Austreylia » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:53 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Austreylia wrote:Here's to hoping that Officer Chauvin is acquitted.


That's pretty messed up.

It is not.

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Very impressive.

Hiram Land wrote:If Chauvin is found guilty, there might be riots against the verdict. If Chauvin is found not guilty or if there is a mistrial, more than likely there will be riots on par with those in '92 in Los Angeles.

BLM and its allies are gonna riot no matter what. It's what they do.
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