Odreria wrote:I don't see the need for religion classes to be propagating blasphemous material.
Blasphemous material can be of great value in academic situations.
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by Jedi Council » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:31 pm
Odreria wrote:I don't see the need for religion classes to be propagating blasphemous material.
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Jedi Council is in fact, the big gay... The lord of all gays.
by Sannyamathland » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:32 pm
Odreria wrote:I don't see the need for religion classes to be propagating blasphemous material.
by Jedi Council » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:33 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Jedi Council is in fact, the big gay... The lord of all gays.
by Odreria » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:36 pm
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
by Roegerland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:13 am
Jedi Council wrote:There have been no riots or death threats but let's not pretend that it would be surprising if it were to devolve into these things
by The Alma Mater » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:29 am
Odreria wrote:I don't see the need for religion classes to be propagating blasphemous material.
by Magnecia » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:35 am
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by Vassenor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:42 am
by Nazeroth » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:49 am
Magnecia wrote:Look I've had enough of this non sense.The thing in Quran which says that people shouldn't produce pictures of Muhammad is applicable for Muslims only.I am not a Muslim,I have freedom of speech,the n why the fuck can't I draw an image of Mohammad,what is wrong about doing so ? If I ask a Muslim to worship a cross,I will be called an extremist,but when a Muslim does basically the same thing,people here are arguing and even supporting their actions ! They shot and killed several reporters,they beheaded a man right in front of the others,yet we are supporting these radicals ! Why? And most importantly,how the hell could any educated human being support such actions,no matter what their religion is.Its sad.
by Stellar Colonies » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:49 am
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The teacher who showed the cartoon to students this week has received death threats and is under police protection, officials said — echoes of the deadly attacks on the French magazine Charlie Hebdo and on a French teacher last year for having shown similar cartoons.
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Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
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The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Vassenor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:52 am
Stellar Colonies wrote:Vassenor wrote:
If there have been death threats why is noone reporting on said death threats?
U.K. School Assailed From 2 Directions Over Muhammad Cartoon (New York Times)...
The teacher who showed the cartoon to students this week has received death threats and is under police protection, officials said — echoes of the deadly attacks on the French magazine Charlie Hebdo and on a French teacher last year for having shown similar cartoons.
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Vague, and the only other reports I could find were in the Daily Mail and the Mirror, and I'm not touching the latter two with a ten foot pole.
by Jedi Council » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:02 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Jedi Council is in fact, the big gay... The lord of all gays.
by Roegerland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:12 am
by A m e n r i a » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:15 am
by Vassenor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:15 am
Roegerland wrote:Jedi Council wrote:Source? I've seen nothing like that being reported.
Just put a couple of key words into google, here's a list of reports containing them - the first four relate to this case in particular:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Death+t ... 20&bih=969
by A m e n r i a » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:25 am
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:Was the school right to display an image of Mohammed? Was it wrong to apologize? Was the angry mob that descended on a local grammar school over a cartoon out of line? Should the authorities deal with them appropriately?
Should we stand with Britain and uphold freedom of expression at all costs, or are the wishy-washy religious fee-fees of an extremely intolerant, fundamentalist minority way more important than the human rights and democratic civil liberties of the vast majority of people in the UK who don't share their totalitarian, theocratic vision? Should secularists and non-Muslims learn to stand up for their rights no matter where they are in the world?
by Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:30 am
A m e n r i a wrote:I mean, there shouldn't be pics of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). It's wrong, there's all there is to it.
by Roegerland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:31 am
A m e n r i a wrote:Also, forgot to actually answer the OP's questionsGlorious Hong Kong wrote:Was the school right to display an image of Mohammed? Was it wrong to apologize? Was the angry mob that descended on a local grammar school over a cartoon out of line? Should the authorities deal with them appropriately?
Should we stand with Britain and uphold freedom of expression at all costs, or are the wishy-washy religious fee-fees of an extremely intolerant, fundamentalist minority way more important than the human rights and democratic civil liberties of the vast majority of people in the UK who don't share their totalitarian, theocratic vision? Should secularists and non-Muslims learn to stand up for their rights no matter where they are in the world?
1. No, as explained before.
2. No, same reason.
3 and 4. Death threats and violence is too much imo. A simple dialogue should suffice.
5.1. freedom of expression doesn't even come into the equation, this is a matter of cosmic law.
5.2. our "religious fee-fees" are cosmic law, which superseeds all human laws.
Just don't share any blasphemous content amd we'll be fine. No blasphemous content for Christians, Hindus, nobody. Bhinneka Tunggal Ika.
by Vassenor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:33 am
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:A m e n r i a wrote:I mean, there shouldn't be pics of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). It's wrong, there's all there is to it.
It’s only wrong if you take your perspective on life and the universe from some 7th Century merchant with antiquated views.
I see the religion apologists are out in force again... because hey, we have to “respect” other people’s beliefs, and of course what that means is doing everything their way lest we offend their delicate sensibilities.
At what point are we going to put our foot down and say enough is enough? A society that tolerates this sort of religious extremism will very quickly become a society that tolerates nothing except this kind of religious extremism.
We need to stop tolerating these fanatics from encroaching on our way of life, and we also need to stop accepting the “moderate” religious apologists that keeps letting them.
by Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:36 am
Vassenor wrote:Apparently a peaceful protest outside a school is dangerous religious extremism now.
by A m e n r i a » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:39 am
Roegerland wrote:A m e n r i a wrote:Also, forgot to actually answer the OP's questions
1. No, as explained before.
2. No, same reason.
3 and 4. Death threats and violence is too much imo. A simple dialogue should suffice.
5.1. freedom of expression doesn't even come into the equation, this is a matter of cosmic law.
5.2. our "religious fee-fees" are cosmic law, which superseeds all human laws.
That's actually hilarious. You can abide by your "cosmic law" as much as you want, you have absolutely zero right in demanding that anyone else does, especially in a (supposed) western liberal democracy.Just don't share any blasphemous content amd we'll be fine. No blasphemous content for Christians, Hindus, nobody. Bhinneka Tunggal Ika.
Nah, freedom is better than blasphemy laws so you can take your veiled threats and... well y'know.
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Vassenor wrote:Apparently a peaceful protest outside a school is dangerous religious extremism now.
A movement can be extremist in the methods it uses, but a movement can also be extremist in the beliefs that it espouses.
“People shouldn’t commit blasphemy” is religious extremism. If someone is advocating for extremist beliefs, then that someone is an extremist regardless of how peaceful the methods they use to spread that belief are.
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:A m e n r i a wrote:I mean, there shouldn't be pics of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). It's wrong, there's all there is to it.
It’s only wrong if you take your perspective on life and the universe from some 7th Century merchant with antiquated views.
I see the religion apologists are out in force again... because hey, we have to “respect” other people’s beliefs, and of course what that means is doing everything their way lest we offend their delicate sensibilities.
At what point are we going to put our foot down and say enough is enough? A society that tolerates this sort of religious extremism will very quickly become a society that tolerates nothing except this kind of religious extremism.
We need to stop tolerating these fanatics from encroaching on our way of life, and we also need to stop accepting the “moderate” religious apologists that keeps letting them.
by Roegerland » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:43 am
A m e n r i a wrote:Roegerland wrote:
That's actually hilarious. You can abide by your "cosmic law" as much as you want, you have absolutely zero right in demanding that anyone else does, especially in a (supposed) western liberal democracy.
Nah, freedom is better than blasphemy laws so you can take your veiled threats and... well y'know.
1.Cosmic laws applies everywhere, even in absolute shiteholes.
2. I mean, if you prefer hellfire, that's strange, but still, a state is responsible for it's people's afterlife. Leaders will be questioned on their people then.Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:A movement can be extremist in the methods it uses, but a movement can also be extremist in the beliefs that it espouses.
“People shouldn’t commit blasphemy” is religious extremism. If someone is advocating for extremist beliefs, then that someone is an extremist regardless of how peaceful the methods they use to spread that belief are.
Lmao since when is wanting others and oneself to be safe from divine wrath extremist?
by A m e n r i a » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:45 am
Roegerland wrote:A m e n r i a wrote:
1.Cosmic laws applies everywhere, even in absolute shiteholes.
2. I mean, if you prefer hellfire, that's strange, but still, a state is responsible for it's people's afterlife. Leaders will be questioned on their people then.
Lmao since when is wanting others and oneself to be safe from divine wrath extremist?
Oh you're one of those, I'm basically pissing in the wind at this point.
by Vassenor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:46 am
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Vassenor wrote:Apparently a peaceful protest outside a school is dangerous religious extremism now.
A movement can be extremist in the methods it uses, but a movement can also be extremist in the beliefs that it espouses.
“People shouldn’t commit blasphemy” is religious extremism. If someone is advocating for extremist beliefs, then that someone is an extremist regardless of how peaceful the methods they use to spread that belief are.
by Stellar Colonies » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:47 am
A m e n r i a wrote:Roegerland wrote:
That's actually hilarious. You can abide by your "cosmic law" as much as you want, you have absolutely zero right in demanding that anyone else does, especially in a (supposed) western liberal democracy.
Nah, freedom is better than blasphemy laws so you can take your veiled threats and... well y'know.
1.Cosmic laws applies everywhere, even in absolute shiteholes.
2. I mean, if you prefer hellfire, that's strange, but still, a state is responsible for it's people's afterlife. Leaders will be questioned on their people then.Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:A movement can be extremist in the methods it uses, but a movement can also be extremist in the beliefs that it espouses.
“People shouldn’t commit blasphemy” is religious extremism. If someone is advocating for extremist beliefs, then that someone is an extremist regardless of how peaceful the methods they use to spread that belief are.
Lmao since when is wanting others and oneself to be safe from divine wrath extremist?Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:It’s only wrong if you take your perspective on life and the universe from some 7th Century merchant with antiquated views.
I see the religion apologists are out in force again... because hey, we have to “respect” other people’s beliefs, and of course what that means is doing everything their way lest we offend their delicate sensibilities.
At what point are we going to put our foot down and say enough is enough? A society that tolerates this sort of religious extremism will very quickly become a society that tolerates nothing except this kind of religious extremism.
We need to stop tolerating these fanatics from encroaching on our way of life, and we also need to stop accepting the “moderate” religious apologists that keeps letting them.
"Wrong" isn't a view. Sins are objective. Rakib and Atid don't care about your opinions. And while I'd love for the world to be a Mahdian Islamic utopian theocracy, I'm fine with having human governments that tolerate all religions. I'm always respectful when visiting Taoist and Buddhist temples, why can't westerners be respectful to Muslims?
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
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