Ship Stuck In Suez [My Final Update: Not Anymore]

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

If they made it wider then they'd just put more ships down it at the same time, which would bring us back to square one, in terms of the possibility of two or more ships becoming wedged against each other and causing a similar blockage.

If only there was some kind of law to keep the ships single fill in the thicker canal

If this event was human error no law would've prevented it. Sure some people may be litigated against but existing laws did not prevent a 400,000 ton vessel ending up like this.

[Heloin]

If only there was some kind of law to keep the ships single fill in the thicker canal

If this event was human error no law would've prevented it. Sure some people may be litigated against but existing laws did not prevent a 400,000 ton vessel ending up like this.

Big boat screams "fuck the police" and crashes itself.

[Ifreann]

Would Egypt be rich enough to afford doubling the width of the entire canal? I believe there might be potential for making it clog proof if it is larger than any ship ever built.

The Ever Given is 400m long.

[Senkaku]

Would Egypt be rich enough to afford doubling the width of the entire canal? I believe there might be potential for making it clog proof if it is larger than any ship ever built.

The Ever Given is 400m long.

Why do you not want 0.8km-long Suezmax nuclear-powered gigafreighters? Because I bet someone might build something like that if they widened it so even a ship twice as long as Ever Given couldn't clear it.

[Reploid Productions]

Would Egypt be rich enough to afford doubling the width of the entire canal? I believe there might be potential for making it clog proof if it is larger than any ship ever built.

When they built the Panama canal, they intentionally built it to accommodate ships far bigger than anything that could conceivably be built at the time, and even that hasn't sufficiently future-proofed it. I imagine Suez is similar; and we shouldn't assume that today's freight ships will be the same size as future freight ships.

Especially if the canal is enlarged because humans are idiots sometimes and will go "bigger canal route can handle BIGGER BOATS! Neener neener I bet I can build the biggest one that will fit before you can!"

[The Black Forrest]

Would Egypt be rich enough to afford doubling the width of the entire canal? I believe there might be potential for making it clog proof if it is larger than any ship ever built.

Maybe they thought the canal could use a reef?

[The New California Republic]

Would Egypt be rich enough to afford doubling the width of the entire canal? I believe there might be potential for making it clog proof if it is larger than any ship ever built.

When they built the Panama canal, they intentionally built it to accommodate ships far bigger than anything that could conceivably be built at the time, and even that hasn't sufficiently future-proofed it. I imagine Suez is similar; and we shouldn't assume that today's freight ships will be the same size as future freight ships.

Especially if the canal is enlarged because humans are idiots sometimes and will go "bigger canal route can handle BIGGER BOATS! Neener neener I bet I can build the biggest one that will fit before you can!"

And tbh it's likely the container ships will get a lot bigger yet, as the only real limit to the size of them at the moment is procuring engines large enough for them, and the availability of ports and facilities that are large enough to handle them. If those issues are solved then the container ships could be a mile long or more if they really wanted them to be, with a correspondingly wider beam too.

[Miku the Based]

; though alongside the ship story it does say something about Egypt's infrastructure.

The canal says more on the French who designed it then the country of egypt that had to maintain it.
I don't think the original designers had intended boats of that size to pass through.

[Fartsniffage]

; though alongside the ship story it does say something about Egypt's infrastructure.

The canal says more on the French who designed it then the country of egypt that had to maintain it.
I don't think the original designers had intended boats of that size to pass through.

The French, Brits, and the US wanted to maintain it. But Egypt said no. Caused a bit of a Crisis at the time.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Is it still there?

[East Statesboro]

Is it still there?

yup

[Alcala-Cordel]

Is it still there?

yup

God this is funny.

[The Archregimancy]

; though alongside the ship story it does say something about Egypt's infrastructure.

The canal says more on the French who designed it then the country of egypt that had to maintain it.
I don't think the original designers had intended boats of that size to pass through.

Infrastructure maintenance in Egypt is an ongoing issue, regardless of who originally built that infrastructure. The Suez Canal was originally built by the French; much (though not all) of the railway system was originally built by the British. However, neither exists unchanged in its original form.

It's not so much who originally built the system; it's how it's maintained (and - in the case of the canal - who's piloting the ships).

So no, the French didn't necessarily build the entire canal in its current form; it was significantly expanded, and a second shipping lane added around the Ismailia section, as recently as 2014-2015, while other sections were widened and deepened in the same time frame; it's not as if the canal has just remained there unchanged for the last 150 years. The current crisis results from the ship running aground in one of the sections that hasn't been suitably expanded, while being piloted by someone who - allegedly - may not have been paying attention, not from the original French engineers failing to anticipate that ships would eventually get much bigger.

[Punished UMN]

Would Egypt be rich enough to afford doubling the width of the entire canal? I believe there might be potential for making it clog proof if it is larger than any ship ever built.

I mean, probably, but that's also a stupid solution so no.

[Punished UMN]

The canal says more on the French who designed it then the country of egypt that had to maintain it.
I don't think the original designers had intended boats of that size to pass through.

Infrastructure maintenance in Egypt is an ongoing issue, regardless of who originally built that infrastructure. The Suez Canal was originally built by the French; much (though not all) of the railway system was originally built by the British. However, neither exists unchanged in its original form.

It's not so much who originally built the system; it's how it's maintained (and - in the case of the canal - who's piloting the ships).

So no, the French didn't necessarily build the entire canal in its current form; it was significantly expanded, and a second shipping lane added around the Ismailia section, as recently as 2014-2015, while other sections were widened and deepened in the same time frame; it's not as if the canal has just remained there unchanged for the last 150 years. The current crisis results from the ship running aground in one of the sections that hasn't been suitably expanded, while being piloted by someone who - allegedly - may not have been paying attention, not from the original French engineers failing to anticipate that ships would eventually get much bigger.

Though you have to admit that engineers not knowing that freighters would one day be thousand foot long hundred-thousand ton behemoths in the age of steam being considered incompetence is one of the more amusing examples of hindsight bias.

[Carthatska]

What they really should do is use this time to expand the canal.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Everybody shut up for a minute I have a solution.

Okay so stay with me here: first, we get 150,000 tons of dynamite...

[Valentine Z]

Everybody shut up for a minute I have a solution.

Okay so stay with me here: first, we get 150,000 tons of dynamite...

I liked my catapult idea better.

[Kannap]

A new solution arrives

[Heloin]

Everybody shut up for a minute I have a solution.

Okay so stay with me here: first, we get 150,000 tons of dynamite...

I liked my catapult idea better.

Maybe the boat just needs a hug.

[Punished UMN]

Everybody shut up for a minute I have a solution.

Okay so stay with me here: first, we get 150,000 tons of dynamite...

That will just release the infestation within the secret cargo-hold.

[Carthatska]

Everybody shut up for a minute I have a solution.

Okay so stay with me here: first, we get 150,000 tons of dynamite...

That will just release the infestation within the secret cargo-hold.

The WHAT?

[Reploid Productions]

Everybody shut up for a minute I have a solution.

Okay so stay with me here: first, we get 150,000 tons of dynamite...

On another ship. Covered in butter. At ramming speed. C'mon man, keep up with the thread!

[Punished UMN]

That will just release the infestation within the secret cargo-hold.

The WHAT?

I've said too much already, but just know that the Weyland-Yutani Corporation strongly advises against this course of action. If it were to become necessary to destroy the vessel, it is imperative to use some form of thermonuclear device, preferably one deployed from orbit.

[Carthatska]

The WHAT?

I've said too much already, but just know that the Weyland-Yutani Corporation strongly advises against this course of action. If it were to become necessary to destroy the vessel, it is imperative to use some form of thermonuclear device, preferably one deployed from orbit.

Wey-

Thermo-

I just-

What?