Paris Commune 150 years anniversary

[The Nippon Teikoku]

Happy anniversary! Nothing pleases me more than watching one of the most evil ideologies of the human race defeated before it was popular to be evil people/nations ^_^

Ill take my leave now

[Nilokeras]

In socialist nations, people are forced to make their country better. In places like the US, people do it by their own merit.

what a powerful grade 10 social studies level analysis of political economy

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

In socialist nations, people are forced to make their country better. In places like the US, people do it by their own merit.

what a powerful grade 10 social studies level analysis of political economy

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

[Duvniask]

In socialist nations, people are forced to make their country better. In places like the US, people do it by their own merit.

what a powerful grade 10 social studies level analysis of political economy

Americans work because they just enjoy it so much. No element of coercion to be found anywhere.

[Duvniask]

what a powerful grade 10 social studies level analysis of political economy

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

Maybe don't post stupid bullshit on online forums and instead get back to learning things at school?

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

what a powerful grade 10 social studies level analysis of political economy

Americans work because they just enjoy it so much. No element of coercion to be found anywhere.

Yes, people who aren't lazy shits typically enjoy the job they decide to stay at, and the least lazy shits actually want to make the world a better place.

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

Maybe don't post stupid bullshit on online forums and instead get back to learning things at school?

Maybe stop heckling me and go back to arguing stupid crap on an internet forum?

[Kilobugya]

Americans work because they just enjoy it so much. No element of coercion to be found anywhere.

Exactly. Even those who have to work two jobs at starvation wage just to pay their mortgage and the medical bills of their parents and their college debt and ... do it just because they love what they do.

Amazon workers who need to wear diapers because they don't have enough bathroom breaks do it because they love putting things in boxes and contributing to Jeff Bezos wealth, not because it's either that of seeing their kids starve to death.

[Nilokeras]

what a powerful grade 10 social studies level analysis of political economy

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

ah so this is because you're not paying attention in class then. What a waste

[Nilokeras]

Yes, people who aren't lazy shits typically enjoy the job they decide to stay at, and the least lazy shits actually want to make the world a better place.

We've graduated from powerful grade 10 social studies class energy to powerful 'ive never worked a job that wasnt at my dads landscaping company' energy

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

Yes, people who aren't lazy shits typically enjoy the job they decide to stay at, and the least lazy shits actually want to make the world a better place.

We've graduated from powerful grade 10 social studies class energy to powerful 'ive never worked a job that wasnt at my dads landscaping company' energy

False. I work at a grocery store and have been for about a year and a half. Don't assume you know everything buddy. My dad is also a white-collar worker and not a redneck, surprise!

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

ah so this is because you're not paying attention in class then. What a waste

I post when I have downtime. Lucky you.

[Alcala-Cordel]

what a powerful grade 10 social studies level analysis of political economy

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

no.

Capitalism is not voluntary, it's coerced exploitaion.

Americans work because they just enjoy it so much. No element of coercion to be found anywhere.

Yes, people who aren't lazy shits typically enjoy the job they decide to stay at, and the least lazy shits actually want to make the world a better place.

Because I'm sure the overworked Amazon employees would just love peeing in bottles if they were less lazy.

We've graduated from powerful grade 10 social studies class energy to powerful 'ive never worked a job that wasnt at my dads landscaping company' energy

False. I work at a grocery store and have been for about a year and a half. Don't assume you know everything buddy. My dad is also a white-collar worker and not a redneck, surprise!

I think I found your problem. See, not everyone is born with equal opportunities. And in that grocery store, ever wonder where that food comes from? If so, do you ever wonder why so much of that unsustainably created food goes to waste when a horifically high number of families starve?

[The Federal Government of Iowa]

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

no.

Capitalism is not voluntary, it's coerced exploitaion.

Oh no! You mean I have to work and actually not be a lazy ass in order to earn a living and a place in society? OH NO! WHATEVER SHALL I DO?? Oh, I know! I'll demand free money from everyone else!
Oh give me a break.

[Alcala-Cordel]

no.

Capitalism is not voluntary, it's coerced exploitaion.

Oh no! You mean I have to work and actually not be a lazy ass in order to earn a living and a place in society? OH NO! WHATEVER SHALL I DO?? Oh, I know! I'll demand free money from everyone else!
Oh give me a break.

Truly spoken like someone with no idea just how much things cost.

[Kilobugya]

Oh no! You mean I have to work and actually not be a lazy ass in order to earn a living and a place in society?

Actually, you mean work in terrible conditions just to barely survive, so your CEO and stockowners can live a luxury life of your work, without having to ever work. That's what capitalism is - allowing a tiny minority of capital owners to exploit the labor of everyone else, granting themselves a life of luxury at the cost of massive sufferings from workers and massive destruction of the environment.

[Duvniask]

Maybe don't post stupid bullshit on online forums and instead get back to learning things at school?

Maybe stop heckling me and go back to arguing stupid crap on an internet forum?

You come on, spew some bullshit, then say we can't call you on it and complain that you don't have time to deal with it.

Why are you here? You could've just never said anything, lol.

[Duvniask]

Americans work because they just enjoy it so much. No element of coercion to be found anywhere.

Yes, people who aren't lazy shits typically enjoy the job they decide to stay at, and the least lazy shits actually want to make the world a better place.

I'm sure you're working at that grocery store because you think it'll make the world a better place.

Or maybe you work because you need the money you get in the form of wages. Ever thought that this applies to most of your fellow citizens, buddy?

[Nilokeras]

False. I work at a grocery store and have been for about a year and a half. Don't assume you know everything buddy. My dad is also a white-collar worker and not a redneck, surprise!

so still a dependent minor calling other people lazy then

cool cool

[Kubra]

what a powerful grade 10 social studies level analysis of political economy

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

then don't post lol
Like is this dude for real

[National Capitalist United States]

I'm in school and don't have time for this crap right now. Leave me alone.

then don't post lol
Like is this dude for real

I think it was bait and you all fell for it

[Kubra]

then don't post lol
Like is this dude for real

I think it was bait and you all fell for it

Naw Naw I know this dude (by his post history)
He legit
And that's a problem

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

no.

Capitalism is not voluntary, it's coerced exploitaion.

Oh no! You mean I have to work and actually not be a lazy ass in order to earn a living and a place in society? OH NO! WHATEVER SHALL I DO?? Oh, I know! I'll demand free money from everyone else!
Oh give me a break.

Oh no! You mean I have to work let my boss take my labor for less than its worth and actually not be a lazy ass actually let myself be exploited in order to earn a living and a place in society? OH NO! WHATEVER SHALL I DO?? Oh, I know! I'll demand free money from everyone else! demand fairer working conditions and move towards a society where I'm paid exactly what I produce (less the typical deductions for capital & input costs)!

Oh give me a break. So unreasonable.

[Duvniask]

Oh no! You mean I have to work and actually not be a lazy ass in order to earn a living and a place in society? OH NO! WHATEVER SHALL I DO?? Oh, I know! I'll demand free money from everyone else!
Oh give me a break.

Oh no! You mean I have to work let my boss take my labor for less than its worth and actually not be a lazy ass actually let myself be exploited in order to earn a living and a place in society? OH NO! WHATEVER SHALL I DO?? Oh, I know! I'll demand free money from everyone else! demand fairer working conditions and move towards a society where I'm paid exactly what I produce!

Oh give me a break. So unreasonable.

This is never going to be the case, ever. As Marx explains rather convincingly in Critique of the Gotha Programme:

"Let us take, first of all, the words "proceeds of labor" in the sense of the product of labor; then the co-operative proceeds of labor are the total social product.

From this must now be deducted: First, cover for replacement of the means of production used up. Second, additional portion for expansion of production. Third, reserve or insurance funds to provide against accidents, dislocations caused by natural calamities, etc.

These deductions from the "undiminished" proceeds of labor are an economic necessity, and their magnitude is to be determined according to available means and forces, and partly by computation of probabilities, but they are in no way calculable by equity.

There remains the other part of the total product, intended to serve as means of consumption.

Before this is divided among the individuals, there has to be deducted again, from it: First, the general costs of administration not belonging to production. This part will, from the outset, be very considerably restricted in comparison with present-day society, and it diminishes in proportion as the new society develops. Second, that which is intended for the common satisfaction of needs, such as schools, health services, etc. From the outset, this part grows considerably in comparison with present-day society, and it grows in proportion as the new society develops. Third, funds for those unable to work, etc., in short, for what is included under so-called official poor relief today.

Only now do we come to the "distribution" which the program, under Lassallean influence, alone has in view in its narrow fashion – namely, to that part of the means of consumption which is divided among the individual producers of the co-operative society.

The "undiminished" proceeds of labor have already unnoticeably become converted into the "diminished" proceeds, although what the producer is deprived of in his capacity as a private individual benefits him directly or indirectly in his capacity as a member of society."

[Bear Stearns]

My gut tells me that this commune is overly romanticized and was just an 1870s equivaent of CHAZ, which was a complete shithole.

[National Capitalist United States]

My gut tells me that this commune is overly romanticized and was just an 1870s equivaent of CHAZ, which was a complete shithole.

Nah, the commune did good. CHAZ is was just ANTIFA's way of admitting that 99% of them are actually keyboard warrior NEET's that had little interaction with the real world.