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Should your country require everyone who can receive a COVID-19 vaccine to actually receive it?

YES
159
53%
YES, BUT there should also be exceptions for philosophical and religious reasons
20
7%
NO, BUT EMPLOYERS SHOULD DO SO THEMSELVES
15
5%
NO, BUT people should be incentivised towards taking, and/or away from not taking, a COVID-19 vaccine (perhaps through lotteries, vaccine passports, etc.)
41
14%
NO
67
22%
 
Total votes : 302

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Postby Galloism » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:49 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Galloism wrote:If you have an HSA, there's no time limit for reimbursement.

I thought it was yearly? No?

FSA has strict rules on reimbursement and timing. HSA doesn't (this post accurate as of 3/27/2021).

I actually learned an interesting strategy at work. I don't use it yet, but I plan to after I catch up on a couple things.

Our HSAs at work are investable, so some of our folks (keep in mind, we're almost to a person tax people) actually pay their medical out of pocket, while continuing to keep their HSA invested earning in the market. They keep track of their expenses on a separate system.

If they ever need a windfall for some reason (replace a roof, disaster, etc), they can turn in all their accrued expenses and get a tax free windfall. Meanwhile, the market earnings inside the HSA continue to be shielded from tax in the interim. Staying tax free forever as long as you always use it for medical.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:03 am

Galloism wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I thought it was yearly? No?

FSA has strict rules on reimbursement and timing. HSA doesn't (this post accurate as of 3/27/2021).

I actually learned an interesting strategy at work. I don't use it yet, but I plan to after I catch up on a couple things.

Our HSAs at work are investable, so some of our folks (keep in mind, we're almost to a person tax people) actually pay their medical out of pocket, while continuing to keep their HSA invested earning in the market. They keep track of their expenses on a separate system.

If they ever need a windfall for some reason (replace a roof, disaster, etc), they can turn in all their accrued expenses and get a tax free windfall. Meanwhile, the market earnings inside the HSA continue to be shielded from tax in the interim. Staying tax free forever as long as you always use it for medical.

Interesting. I dont think we have HSA's. I know we have FSA'a. But we have a normal medical and dental package.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:31 am

White House “considering” whether to temporarily lift intellectual property protections for covid vaccines

The White House is weighing whether to suspend intellectual property protections for Covid-19 vaccines and treatments, in response to pressure from developing nations and subsequent support from progressive lawmakers, according to three sources familiar with the matter.

A temporary suspension of intellectual property protections would apply to all medical technologies to treat or prevent Covid-19. South Africa and India made a formal request to the World Trade Organization to waive the protections until the pandemic is over, but the issue was tabled without a resolution. The White House convened a meeting of deputy-level policymakers on March 22, a senior administration official said, but they reached no final decision.

The White House's review comes in response to a letter sent in late March by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, urging the administration to study the issue after several Democratic colleagues — including Reps. Earl Blumenauer of Oregon, Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut and Jan Schakowsky of Illinois — brought it to her attention. The letter has not been released to the public. But a senior aide said Pelosi supports the position of her members, who are in favor of issuing such a waiver, even on a temporary basis.

"The view is 'We're not safe until the world is safe,'" one of the sources said of the support from progressives on Capitol Hill.

The Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, which would be expected to deliver a final verdict to the World Trade Organization, said saving lives and ending the pandemic remains the "top priority of the United States."
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Postby Kowani » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:06 pm

Florida opens up vaccine eligibility

All Florida adults will be able to get vaccinated against COVID-19 as of April 5, Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Thursday morning.

The next reduction of the age level for automatic vaccination eligibility, which now stands at 50, will be Monday, when the age drops to 40. The following Monday, the age will drop to 18.

Those 16- and 17-year-olds considered by a physician to be “extremely vulnerable” can get vaccinated at Jackson Health, Nicklaus Children’s, CVS Pharmacies and Navarro Pharmacies. Florida residents can pre-register at the state COVID vaccination site or call the vaccine pre-registration number for their county.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby New Visayan Islands » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:36 am

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Data for PH as of March 28th, 1600 PHT/0400 EDT. Yes, it's OVER 9000! AGAIN!

Detailed update in Tagalog. Key data to consider:
  • 26244 people were tested, with a 19.8% positivity rate. That's 5196 positive results for SARS-CoV-2 if you did the math and rounded off to the nearest whole person because 5196.312 is the exact amount.
  • 9475 people were added to the "I have The Coof" tally. Hence the repeat of the Vegeta reference.
  • 22000 people moved to the "I survived The Coof" tally, and 11 people croaked.


Also:
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:38 am

You know if Duterte is still alive NVI? <.<

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:57 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You know if Duterte is still alive NVI? <.<

Yes. It just so happens to be his 76th birthday today.

BUT I DIGRESS. I'm actually worried for the relatives in Manila, what with that weeklong lockdown starting tomorrow...although knowing Duterte, it would not surprise me if the lockdown gets extended before Easter.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:18 am


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:34 am

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Postby Kowani » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:36 am

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:41 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
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lmao

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Postby CoraSpia » Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:25 pm

GVH has a puppet. It supports #NSTransparency and hosts a weekly zoom call for nsers that you should totally check out

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:35 pm

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:43 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Kowani wrote:

Wouldn't be surprised if there were many more with wholly inaccurate counts.


Florida apparently suffered as 1200% increase in pneumonia deaths in January compared to last year.

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:54 pm

My sister tested positive today after exposure last weekend. She has mild symptoms but I have experienced none thus far. Got tested today and should get the result in a day or two.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:My sister tested positive today after exposure last weekend. She has mild symptoms but I have experienced none thus far. Got tested today and should get the result in a day or two.


That sucks dude. I'm sorry.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:12 pm

San Lumen wrote:My sister tested positive today after exposure last weekend. She has mild symptoms but I have experienced none thus far. Got tested today and should get the result in a day or two.

Take another one in about 4 days, good luck
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:20 pm

Pre-registered and for my reference code for my vaccination. I hope FL’s department of health texts me with my appointment soon.
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Postby Xmara » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:37 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Pre-registered and for my reference code for my vaccination. I hope FL’s department of health texts me with my appointment soon.

I hope so too. I preregistered in WV last month and I still haven’t heard anything despite the governor opening up vaccination to everyone over the age of 16. Apparently a lot of people are having the same problem as me.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:40 pm

Xmara wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Pre-registered and for my reference code for my vaccination. I hope FL’s department of health texts me with my appointment soon.

I hope so too. I preregistered in WV last month and I still haven’t heard anything despite the governor opening up vaccination to everyone over the age of 16. Apparently a lot of people are having the same problem as me.


Places that offer the vaccine in my area are fully booked. That may be the problem in your area too. Maybe.

I may have to go down to Orlando to get mine, unless a spot opens up soon. Tomorrow, people who are 40+ like me can begin their vaccinating. By April 5th, it should be everyone 18+.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:42 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Pre-registered and for my reference code for my vaccination. I hope FL’s department of health texts me with my appointment soon.

I did the same thing for New York.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:08 pm

Amazon has now developed its own covid test

The company on Thursday received emergency clearance from the Food and Drug Administration for an at-home test known as the Amazon Covid-19 Collection Kit. The nasal swab and PCR-based test, developed by Amazon subsidiary STS Lab Holdco, allows users to test themselves with or without the supervision of a health care professional.

The authorization comes as Amazon is making a full-court press into health care. Just two weeks ago, the tech giant announced the national expansion of its virtual-first health care platform, Amazon Care; two months before that, it penned a letter to President Biden offering logistical and technical support for its Covid-19 vaccine distribution plans. STS Lab Holdco is currently operating federally authorized laboratories from which it can process the results of its Covid-19 tests in at least seven states, including California, Texas, Kentucky, and Florida, according to paperwork filed publicly and viewed by STAT.

The test clearance gives Amazon yet another chance to deepen its existing inroads in health care, which now span virtual and in-person care, wearables, and Covid-19 research. While there is currently no shortage of available Covid-19 tests — including those that offer people the ability to self test — the new kit could provide further traction for Amazon Care, should the the company choose to make it available as part of that program. According to publicly filed documents viewed by STAT, Amazon created and trademarked Care Medical, the medical provider with whom it has said it contracts to deliver its services. In recent days, Amazon has expanded Care from a service focused on urgent and primary care to one capable of providing preventive and chronic care as well. In a job posting earlier this month, Amazon also listed Care’s mission statement for the first time: “To invent and simplify large-scale solutions and bring the future to customers and clinicians.”

Part of Amazon’s plan to offer those services involves so-called Care Teams, dedicated groups of health care providers who are matched with patients. The Care Team will “get to know you, understand your health goals, and build a relationship with you to provide the care you need,” according to Care’s website. That aspect of the business is very similar to an effort by now-shuttered Haven, Amazon’s joint venture with JPMorgan Chase and Berkshire Hathaway, which involved assigning a dedicated team of primary care health workers to each patient.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Kowani » Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:20 pm

Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:08 am

Things are improving. I haven’t been watching the stats for awhile. Just checked out of curiosity and found serious critical numbers are down to 8500. For the longest time is was 16000 and went up to 30000 thanks to the brilliant lack of leadership of the ex-president. The death numbers are at 560K so we will probably pass the civil war.

Amazing what happens when you actually have a plan and set goals for vaccinations.
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