Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[Xmara]

New Jersey Gym will offer you a free membership...if you don't get vaccinated for covid

hellworld

They ought to be sued for endangering the public.

[San Lumen]

New Jersey Gym will offer you a free membership...if you don't get vaccinated for covid

hellworld

Why would any business do that? That utterly insane.

[North Washington Republic]

New Jersey Gym will offer you a free membership...if you don't get vaccinated for covid

hellworld

They ought to be sued for endangering the public.

Agreed. I hope the city and state government either fines the crap out of him or even better yet, shut his business down.

New Jersey Gym will offer you a free membership...if you don't get vaccinated for covid

hellworld

Why would any business do that? That utterly insane.

Because anti-vaxxers believe they know better than us “sheep” that listen to some of the best doctors in the world. A close friend of mine believes that this is all an experiment that the government is running in order to see who the “sheep” are. He doesn’t believe in masks either.

[Rusozak]

New Jersey Gym will offer you a free membership...if you don't get vaccinated for covid

hellworld

Why would any business do that? That utterly insane.

Maybe they wanted to commit economic suicide in a flashy way that takes people with them?

[The Free Joy State]

personally I'm just pleasantly surprised that the vaccine is free at the point of service, rather than being $500 a dose or some shit.

What if there was a government-run service that was free, but for those who can afford $500 a dose there is also a private service that will get you your vaccine whenever you want it as long as you can afford to purchase it?

As that would mean taking vaccines away from the elderly, the vulnerable, those in low income essential occupations -- people who really need them -- it sounds like a dreadful idea.

Having money should never catapult people to the front of the queue.

New Jersey Gym will offer you a free membership...if you don't get vaccinated for covid

hellworld

They ought to be sued for endangering the public.

They should.

And who on earth would take them up on it, doing something so dangerous for a "perk" so trivial?

[Neutraligon]

What if there was a government-run service that was free, but for those who can afford $500 a dose there is also a private service that will get you your vaccine whenever you want it as long as you can afford to purchase it?

As that would mean taking vaccines away from the elderly, the vulnerable, those in low income essential occupations -- people who really need them -- it sounds like a dreadful idea.

Having money should never catapult people to the front of the queue.

They ought to be sued for endangering the public.

They should.

And who on earth would take them up on it, doing something so dangerous for a "perk" so trivial?

Also the US helped fund the at least some of the vaccines and bought the others, why should private companies be able to profit from that?

[Kowani]

India, seeing surge in covid cases, stops exporting vaccines

Exports of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine from the world's largest vaccine manufacturer, the Serum Institute of India, have been paused as India grapples with a new spike in cases, Reuters reports.

Why it matters: India hasn't exported any doses at all over the past week, according to foreign ministry data — a worrying sign for the COVAX initiative, which aims to send vaccines all over the world and is relying heavily on Indian-made vaccines.

India is one of the world's four primary vaccine producers. Only one of those, China, is not currently restricting exports or discussing doing so. The U.S. isn't exporting any doses and the EU is now debating export curbs. India had exported 65% of the doses it produced as of last week, according to Airfinity, a science information and analytics company.

The Indian government has been engaging in vaccine diplomacy — donating doses to kickstart vaccination campaigns in the Caribbean, for example — while Indian companies have contracts to send doses all over the world, including to developing countries.
But Serum Institute CEO Adar Poonawalla said last month that he'd been "directed to prioritize the huge needs of India."

Calls to focus on vaccinating India are growing louder amid a sharp rise in cases this month.
The spike is particularly discouraging because an unexpected decline in infections beginning last fall had led to hopes that Indian cities could be approaching herd immunity. Public health authorities say immunity may be less widespread than had been hoped, or the virus could be spreading in communities that were less affected by previous waves.
It's not yet clear how big a role new variants are playing.

[The Free Joy State]

As that would mean taking vaccines away from the elderly, the vulnerable, those in low income essential occupations -- people who really need them -- it sounds like a dreadful idea.

Having money should never catapult people to the front of the queue.


They should.

And who on earth would take them up on it, doing something so dangerous for a "perk" so trivial?

Also the US helped fund the at least some of the vaccines and bought the others, why should private companies be able to profit from that?

Exactly. As did the UK government.

Plus, right now, vaccinating the under-50s will be delayed in the UK and one NHS official stated there's expected to be a fewer vaccines worldwide; privateers siphoning off vaccines for profit would create an even greater shortage.

[Kannap]

New Jersey Gym will offer you a free membership...if you don't get vaccinated for covid

hellworld

The Anti-Krispy Kreme

[Kannap]

Krispy Kreme offers one free donut per day through the remainder of 2021 for anybody who shows proof of vaccination - a COVID vaccine card showing both doses received.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

What happens if businesses and government agencies require proof of vaccination, but the only jab available happens to be Sinovac, which nobody wants to take? This will effectively disenfranchise critics of Sinovac and the CCP and create a political underclass of unvaccinated dissidents. This is social credit in the making.

The latest Pfizer shipment to Hong Kong recently got delayed due to "packaging errors". Fosun Pharma, which, as you can probably guess by the name, is based in China, is responsible for the supply of Pfizer doses to Hong Kong. Vaccine uptake has been low because nobody wants to take Sinovac. Given the track record of "errors" and "mishaps" originating in China, one cannot rule out foul play.

I'm much more wary of this kind of vaccine apartheid than many in the West are because of this. The potential for abuse is extremely high.

[Picairn]

What if there was a government-run service that was free, but for those who can afford $500 a dose there is also a private service that will get you your vaccine whenever you want it as long as you can afford to purchase it?

Vietnam is already planning to do this, albeit only when the supply is enough for everyone, and the private supply will be small. Right now they are triaging to deliver the vaccines to the ones who need them most. But yeah, probably in the future. https://ncov.moh.gov.vn/web/guest/-/6847912-95

Your idea of public + private healthcare broadly have been implemented here in Vietnam. Nearly all public hospitals have set up "service medical examination" offices where you can get faster service for higher costs. You go to the counter, pay a flat fee upfront, get directed to a room and wait, then you get an examination, the doctor writes you a prescription and finally you pay for all of the drugs out-of-pocket. The whole process takes 15 - 30 minutes. Many people are supportive of this policy and use them frequently to avoid long wait times, and my father would do the same thing every time he brings me for an examination.

"It's expensive, but worth it, I don't want to wait from the morning to the afternoon." - He said.

This is viewed as a good thing, because it helps both the patients (faster services) and the hospitals (more income). The quality of the service for both public and service checkups are roughly the same (thanks to regulation), the latter only being faster than the former. Doctors will treat everyone regardless of wealth, but... poor people may not be satisfied with the long wait times, and thus some families have resorted to borrowing to pay for faster services, which caused an uproar. https://m.thanhnien.vn/thoi-su/ngheo-va ... 31079.html (The title is: Poor but still have to get a service surgery)

With the current wave of "financially independent" hospitals (basically the government deregulates hospitals' infrastructures and finances but also cuts funding), the service prices have risen a lot and varied significantly across different hospitals, which made the poor and rich alike weep for their purses. In response, the government is regulating prices with ceilings to avoid them rising to catastrophic levels. http://m.cand.com.vn/y-te/Hang-loat-dic ... gu-558865/ (The title is: Multiple medical services will increase prices and patients are losing their sleeps over it)

[Kowani]

EU leaders confirm vaccine export control

The leaders of EU member countries have confirmed strengthening export controls of COVID-19 vaccines manufactured within the bloc. An online summit held on Thursday discussed the vaccines, whose delivery has been delayed so far. Earlier on Wednesday, the European Commission, the EU's executive arm, proposed toughening the vaccine export authorization mechanism.

The leaders taking part in Thursday's summit agreed to call on drug companies to respect their contractual commitments with the European Union. The leaders also agreed to accelerate efforts to introduce vaccine certificates ahead of the summer tourism season. Such certificates are expected to help the resumption of free traveling within the bloc.

Meanwhile, US President Joe Biden took part in the virtual summit at the invitation of the EU. He agreed to cooperate on global issues such as coronavirus responses and resuscitating the economy.

[The Huskar Social Union]

New Jersey Gym will offer you a free membership...if you don't get vaccinated for covid

hellworld

New Jersey Gym run by fucking headcases.

[New Visayan Islands]

Data for PH as of March 26th, 1600 PHT/0400 EDT. Yes, it's OVER 9000!

Detailed update in Tagalog. Key data to consider:

• 32069 people were tested, with a 17.3% positivity rate. That's 5548 positive results for SARS-CoV-2 if you did the math and rounded up to the nearest whole person because 5547.937 is the exact amount.
• 9838 people were added to the "I have The Coof" tally. Hence the Vegeta reference.
• 663 people moved to the "I survived The Coof" tally, and 54 people croaked.

Also:

• Almost 19 out of 20 fear The Coof, almost 2 out of 3 don't want the Coof Shot. (And 84% of the Nays cite safety concerns.)
• And that was the City of Marikina in Metro Manila shitting out a ton of bricks.
• Even Cops with The Coof are getting shafted.
• Because jobs matter more than even in the Age of The Coof.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-d ... ew-1578980

Wanna know why so many Americans died from covid?

[CoraSpia]

Nah. I reckon if GVH can cough up a quadrillion USD's to donate to medical science he can jump the queue.

Imagine having the audacity to be anti-mask and indifferent to letting people die of Covid yet wanting to cut to the front of the line for the vaccine.

I've already had my first dose, but I know many other people who haven't and who would be more than willing to pay.

[CoraSpia]

Also the US helped fund the at least some of the vaccines and bought the others, why should private companies be able to profit from that?

Exactly. As did the UK government.

Plus, right now, vaccinating the under-50s will be delayed in the UK and one NHS official stated there's expected to be a fewer vaccines worldwide; privateers siphoning off vaccines for profit would create an even greater shortage.

I'm not sure I see the issue? If a private company has a different set of priorities when it comes to who it vaccinates then that's not the governments business.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Exactly. As did the UK government.

Plus, right now, vaccinating the under-50s will be delayed in the UK and one NHS official stated there's expected to be a fewer vaccines worldwide; privateers siphoning off vaccines for profit would create an even greater shortage.

I'm not sure I see the issue? If a private company has a different set of priorities when it comes to who it vaccinates then that's not the governments business.

You know, you don't intend to do it, but you make really good arguments for why private businesses in fields like this should be crushed and nationalized.

[CoraSpia]

I'm not sure I see the issue? If a private company has a different set of priorities when it comes to who it vaccinates then that's not the governments business.

You know, you don't intend to do it, but you make really good arguments for why private businesses in fields like this should be crushed and nationalized.

Fields like what? Private covid vaccine distribution is sadly not a field that exists at the moment, so I'm not sure it can even be called one.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You know, you don't intend to do it, but you make really good arguments for why private businesses in fields like this should be crushed and nationalized.

Fields like what? Private covid vaccine distribution is sadly not a field that exists at the moment, so I'm not sure it can even be called one.

For profit medicine and such things. As I've gotten older it's become more and more blatantly one of the most evil things in the western world.

[CoraSpia]

Fields like what? Private covid vaccine distribution is sadly not a field that exists at the moment, so I'm not sure it can even be called one.

For profit medicine and such things. As I've gotten older it's become more and more blatantly one of the most evil things in the western world.

Why would you invest time and money into researching and developing new medicines if not to make a profit? I genuinely don't get it

[The New California Republic]

For profit medicine and such things. As I've gotten older it's become more and more blatantly one of the most evil things in the western world.

Why would you invest time and money into researching and developing new medicines if not to make a profit? I genuinely don't get it

If you genuinely don't understand altruism then we've probably hit a wall in terms of actually being able to explain this to you, as any explanation we give would—from your perspective—just be a bunch of words with the meaning lost.

[The Huskar Social Union]

For profit medicine and such things. As I've gotten older it's become more and more blatantly one of the most evil things in the western world.

Why would you invest time and money into researching and developing new medicines if not to make a profit? I genuinely don't get it

Course you dont.

[Ifreann]

EU leaders confirm vaccine export control

The leaders of EU member countries have confirmed strengthening export controls of COVID-19 vaccines manufactured within the bloc. An online summit held on Thursday discussed the vaccines, whose delivery has been delayed so far. Earlier on Wednesday, the European Commission, the EU's executive arm, proposed toughening the vaccine export authorization mechanism.

The leaders taking part in Thursday's summit agreed to call on drug companies to respect their contractual commitments with the European Union. The leaders also agreed to accelerate efforts to introduce vaccine certificates ahead of the summer tourism season. Such certificates are expected to help the resumption of free traveling within the bloc.

Meanwhile, US President Joe Biden took part in the virtual summit at the invitation of the EU. He agreed to cooperate on global issues such as coronavirus responses and resuscitating the economy.

Of course we can't live in a world where we distribute vaccines according to need. That would be silly.