Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[Ethel mermania]

Well a month ago we were having 100 cases or so q day. Today we are up to 1000. The difference is mask mandates were dropped. The same amount of people are vaccinated. ( and in nyc, it ain't Trump supporters who are unvaccinated). Folks are blaming the unvaccinated when the only change was the mask mandates being lifted.

Honestly to me it feels like a witch hunt.

Not with all this conspiracy nonsense going around with people outright acting like vaccines are oppression. Plus, we'll be wearing masks for a very long time if the anti-vaxxers don't budge.

If the choice is vaccinate or face sanctions, it is oppression.

However the point is the numbers were still doing down with the mandate and less people being vaccinated, the mask mandate should be kept.

[San Lumen]

Well a month ago we were having 100 cases or so q day. Today we are up to 1000. The difference is mask mandates were dropped. The same amount of people are vaccinated. ( and in nyc, it ain't Trump supporters who are unvaccinated). Folks are blaming the unvaccinated when the only change was the mask mandates being lifted.

Honestly to me it feels like a witch hunt.

Not with all this conspiracy nonsense going around with people outright acting like vaccines are oppression. Plus, we'll be wearing masks for a very long time if the anti-vaxxers don't budge.

No we won’t.

[Ifreann]

Not with all this conspiracy nonsense going around with people outright acting like vaccines are oppression. Plus, we'll be wearing masks for a very long time if the anti-vaxxers don't budge.

No we won’t.

You can't make a disease going away by whining about endgames and goalposts.

[San Lumen]

No we won’t.

You can't make a disease going away by whining about endgames and goalposts.

It’s endemic. At some point we have to just live it with it like any other pathogen in existence and stop making in the sole focus of everything. We have the vaccine and if people don’t want to take it that’s on them. The CDC is making a huge mistake by changing guidelines and mayors and governors should ignore them if they don’t want to undermine vaccination efforts.

[Vassenor]

You can't make a disease going away by whining about endgames and goalposts.

It’s endemic. At some point we have to just live it with it like any other pathogen in existence and stop making in the sole focus of everything. We have the vaccine and if people don’t want to take it that’s on them. The CDC is making a huge mistake by changing guidelines and mayors and governors should ignore them if they don’t want to undermine vaccination efforts.

Show us where the vaccine was touted as the absolute endgame and all restrictions would be unnecessary afterwards.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Not with all this conspiracy nonsense going around with people outright acting like vaccines are oppression. Plus, we'll be wearing masks for a very long time if the anti-vaxxers don't budge.

No we won’t.

I hope not. I'm not wearing one now, but if the CDC changes its guidelines, I know who to blame.

[The Reformed American Republic]

It’s endemic. At some point we have to just live it with it like any other pathogen in existence and stop making in the sole focus of everything. We have the vaccine and if people don’t want to take it that’s on them. The CDC is making a huge mistake by changing guidelines and mayors and governors should ignore them if they don’t want to undermine vaccination efforts.

Show us where the vaccine was touted as the absolute endgame and all restrictions would be unnecessary afterwards.

Not all, but most. And the CDC had that understanding, which is why they currently do not require vaccinated people to wear masks in most situations. That may change do to the circumstances however.

[Necroghastia]

"it's endemic and we need to learn to live with it"
"we are not going to have on and off masking "
good lord pick one lumen

[San Lumen]

"it's endemic and we need to learn to live with it"
"we are not going to have on and off masking "
good lord pick one lumen

Learning to live with includes getting rid of masks.

[Necroghastia]

"it's endemic and we need to learn to live with it"
"we are not going to have on and off masking "
good lord pick one lumen

Learning to live with includes getting rid of masks.

No, it means learning to live with on and off masking as well, a la Japan in flu season.

[San Lumen]

Learning to live with includes getting rid of masks.

No, it means learning to live with on and off masking as well, a la Japan in flu season.

Let it be a personal choice instead of mandating it for all. It’s not mandated during flu season on Japan.

[Juristonia]

"it's endemic and we need to learn to live with it"
"we are not going to have on and off masking "
good lord pick one lumen

Learning to live with includes getting rid of masks.

This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friends..

[Fartsniffage]

Learning to live with includes getting rid of masks.

This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friends..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgpZ3gaYv0

[Juristonia]

This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on my friends..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgpZ3gaYv0

There's too big a gap between loops and that's getting on my nerves way more than the actual song.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

No, it means learning to live with on and off masking as well, a la Japan in flu season.

Let it be a personal choice instead of mandating it for all. It’s not mandated during flu season on Japan.

It's mandated by social pressure. I.e. if you don't wear one and you sneeze in public = you are now an arsehole.

[The Black Forrest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgpZ3gaYv0

There's too big a gap between loops and that's getting on my nerves way more than the actual song.

How about the song Friday?

[Esternial]

Not with all this conspiracy nonsense going around with people outright acting like vaccines are oppression. Plus, we'll be wearing masks for a very long time if the anti-vaxxers don't budge.

I saw a guy on facebook call double vaccination or negative test requirements for Belsonic (music venue in belfast) "Medical Apartheid"


The Human Race is a failure, i cant wait till the Dwarfs replace us and Earth has 1000 years of the Karaz Ankor.

"Guy on Facebook" is the digital version of "Florida Man", this was to be expected.

[Kerwa]

Well a month ago we were having 100 cases or so q day. Today we are up to 1000. The difference is mask mandates were dropped. The same amount of people are vaccinated. ( and in nyc, it ain't Trump supporters who are unvaccinated). Folks are blaming the unvaccinated when the only change was the mask mandates being lifted.

Honestly to me it feels like a witch hunt.

I think it’s the delta variant more than anything. Vaccinated people get it and can spread it to each other regardless of unvaccinated people - at least that’s how it appears. On the plus side though, it doesn’t seem to be as deadly and cases seem already to be trending down in places like the U.K. and Netherlands.

Still, if all cause death numbers from the CDC are to be believed it’s pretty clear that masks/social distancing/limiting social interaction does in fact save a lot of lives entirely apart from COVID. Probably good for the environment too. So it would be silly to abandon the completely.

[San Lumen]

Well a month ago we were having 100 cases or so q day. Today we are up to 1000. The difference is mask mandates were dropped. The same amount of people are vaccinated. ( and in nyc, it ain't Trump supporters who are unvaccinated). Folks are blaming the unvaccinated when the only change was the mask mandates being lifted.

Honestly to me it feels like a witch hunt.

I think it’s the delta variant more than anything. Vaccinated people get it and can spread it to each other regardless of unvaccinated people - at least that’s how it appears. On the plus side though, it doesn’t seem to be as deadly and cases seem already to be trending down in places like the U.K. and Netherlands.

Still, if all cause death numbers from the CDC are to be believed it’s pretty clear that masks/social distancing/limiting social interaction does in fact save a lot of lives entirely apart from COVID. Probably good for the environment too. So it would be silly to abandon the completely.

Distancing and limited capacity isn’t feasible long term.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I think it’s the delta variant more than anything. Vaccinated people get it and can spread it to each other regardless of unvaccinated people - at least that’s how it appears. On the plus side though, it doesn’t seem to be as deadly and cases seem already to be trending down in places like the U.K. and Netherlands.

Still, if all cause death numbers from the CDC are to be believed it’s pretty clear that masks/social distancing/limiting social interaction does in fact save a lot of lives entirely apart from COVID. Probably good for the environment too. So it would be silly to abandon the completely.

Distancing and limited capacity isn’t feasible long term.

Nothing is feasible according to you. Explain now why we should still take you seriously?

[Ethel mermania]

I think it’s the delta variant more than anything. Vaccinated people get it and can spread it to each other regardless of unvaccinated people - at least that’s how it appears. On the plus side though, it doesn’t seem to be as deadly and cases seem already to be trending down in places like the U.K. and Netherlands.

Still, if all cause death numbers from the CDC are to be believed it’s pretty clear that masks/social distancing/limiting social interaction does in fact save a lot of lives entirely apart from COVID. Probably good for the environment too. So it would be silly to abandon the completely.

Distancing and limited capacity isn’t feasible long term.

Worked fine a month ago.

[Farnhamia]

Distancing and limited capacity isn’t feasible long term.

Worked fine a month ago.

The limited warranty must have run out.

[Kerwa]

Distancing and limited capacity isn’t feasible long term.

Why not?

It just means society will be a little different. I imagine it’s going to happen to an extent anyway since a lot of people like things like working from home, not commuting, online shopping etc.

[95X]

It's perfectly reasonable to treat everyone like a risk unless they can verify they are not. Security checkpoints at the airport do just that.

"This." Don't want to or can't comply with airport security? Don't fly. Don't want to or can't comply with current TSA regulations regarding virtually any method of publicly-available transportation? Don't use it.

Mandatory vaccination however seen as uncouth by most people, even if desirable.

I for one support mandatory vaccinations; the USA already requires things like K-12 school attendance, requiring male-bodied individuals to sign up for Selective Service, paying taxes, at one point required paying a "Shared Responsibility Payment" if someone didn't have health insurance, etc., here people are being offered a free of user fee vaccine that decreases the transmission rate of a deadly virus therefore it makes sense for the government to mandate it.

If the choice is vaccinate or face sanctions, it is oppression.

I disagree, I believe it would be proper governance. Especially if it is top-down nationwide governance.

[Neutraligon]

Distancing and limited capacity isn’t feasible long term.

Why not?

It just means society will be a little different. I imagine it’s going to happen to an extent anyway since a lot of people like things like working from home, not commuting, online shopping etc.

I think for certain types of jobs we will see a mix of work from home and from the office. The office will be set aside more for group meetings, brainstorming sessions, prototyping, and the like. The home office will be for everything else. Things will not change all that much for jobs that require people to be present like retail and the like.