Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[Kowani]

California to require state employees and healthcare workers to either provide proof of vaccination or get tested regularly

[The Black Forrest]

California to require state employees and healthcare workers to either provide proof of vaccination or get tested regularly

FREEDOM! comments to begin 5….4….

[Diahon]

California to require state employees and healthcare workers to either provide proof of vaccination or get tested regularly

at the very least, require healthcare workers to be vaccinated or else be removed from their jobs

it especially behooves them not to put the patients in their charge in any, or any more, mortal danger

if they won't comply, that weeds them out

[The Reformed American Republic]

California to require state employees and healthcare workers to either provide proof of vaccination or get tested regularly

I would just mandate the vaccine unless someone medically cannot get it.

[Kowani]

Veterans Authority becomes first federal agency to mandate vaccines for healthcare workers. Employees who provide direct patient care have eight weeks to get inoculated against covid.

[New Rogernomics]

California to require state employees and healthcare workers to either provide proof of vaccination or get tested regularly

Sounds reasonable given their interactions with the public, and private healthcare providers are already firing willingly unvaccinated workers.

[Omniabstracta]

New York City joins California in mandating vaccinations for government employees, a welcome move that I hope becomes more accepted in other cities and states as well.

[Stellar Colonies]

Curious as to people's thoughts of the Novavax vaccine, just learned about it recently and am still delving into it.

Major delay in Australian government’s Novavax deal, with 51m doses not expected until 2022 (The Guardian)

The mRNA Vaccines Are Extraordinary, but Novavax Is Even Better (The Atlantic)

[San Lumen]

Curious as to people's thoughts of the Novavax vaccine, just learned about it recently and am still delving into it.

Major delay in Australian government’s Novavax deal, with 51m doses not expected until 2022 (The Guardian)

The mRNA Vaccines Are Extraordinary, but Novavax Is Even Better (The Atlantic)

when is it going to start being administered? Hopefully soon. Is it one shot or two?

[Stellar Colonies]

Curious as to people's thoughts of the Novavax vaccine, just learned about it recently and am still delving into it.

Major delay in Australian government’s Novavax deal, with 51m doses not expected until 2022 (The Guardian)

The mRNA Vaccines Are Extraordinary, but Novavax Is Even Better (The Atlantic)

when is it going to start being administered? Hopefully soon. Is it one shot or two?

Two dose, I think. No clue when it would be rolled out in the US, but apparently they're having setbacks in Australia.

Edit: According to this it would have less side effects than the other vaccines being administered in the US, but I'm unsure as to the trustworthiness of this article.

Edit 2: Entry regarding it in the Melbourne Vaccination Education Centre.

Edit 3:

Comparing the COVID-19 Vaccines: How Are They Different? (Yale Medicine)

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Novavax

This vaccine has been shown to be effective not only against COVID-19, but also against the mutations that have emerged in Great Britain and, to a lesser extent, South Africa. While the other breakthrough vaccines have been either mRNA or vector platforms, the Novavax vaccine is yet another type, called a protein adjuvant. It is also simpler to make and can be stored in a refrigerator.

Status: Still completing clinical trials

Recommended for: The vaccine is being studied in adults ages 18-84

Dosage: 2 doses, three weeks apart

Common side effects: Injection site tenderness, fatigue, headache, muscle pain.

How it works:
Unlike the mRNA and vector vaccines, this is a protein adjuvant (an adjuvant is an ingredient used to strengthen the immune response). While other vaccines trick the body’s cells into creating parts of the virus that can trigger the immune system, the Novavax vaccine takes a different approach. It contains the spike protein of the coronavirus itself, but formulated as a nanoparticle, which cannot cause disease. When the vaccine is injected, this stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies and T-cell immune responses.

How well it works:
90% effective against lab-confirmed, symptomatic infection and 100% against moderate and severe disease in Phase 3 trial results released in a company statement in June. The company says the vaccine was 91% protective of people in high-risk populations such as people older than 65, those with health conditions that increase risk of complication, and those in situations where they are frequently exposed to the virus.

How well it works on virus mutations:
Novavax says the vaccine is 93% effective against “predominantly circulating variants of concern and variants of interest,” and 100% against variants “not considered variants of concern/interest.” (It’s important to note that the study was conducted in the U.S. and Mexico, when Alpha was the predominant strain in the U.S., although other variants were on the rise.) More data is needed to determine the effectiveness of Novavax against the Delta variant.

[New Rogernomics]

Curious as to people's thoughts of the Novavax vaccine, just learned about it recently and am still delving into it.

Major delay in Australian government’s Novavax deal, with 51m doses not expected until 2022 (The Guardian)

The mRNA Vaccines Are Extraordinary, but Novavax Is Even Better (The Atlantic)

My opinion would be that folks shouldn't hold off being vaccinated to get the "best vaccine", especially with research coming out over booster shots being relatively safe. Probably by the time Novavax is more readily available it could be a booster shot, though getting vaccinated with something 90%+ effective is going to pull the vast majority through Covid. As far as the data on Novavax effectiveness it is not drastically more effective than Pfizer or Moderna, and some US trials put it at around 90-93% effective.

[North Washington Republic]

Remember when I said that the CDC could revise it’s mask guidelines due to surges? Well, it looks like, I was right.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Remember when I said that the CDC could revise it’s mask guidelines due to surges? Well, it looks like, I was right.

This will continue unless everyone who can be vaccinated is vaccinated, which, without mandatory vaccinations, will never occur.

[North Washington Republic]

Remember when I said that the CDC could revise it’s mask guidelines due to surges? Well, it looks like, I was right.

This will continue unless everyone is vaccinated, which, without mandatory vaccinations, will never occur.

Do you have a reputable source source on that?

[Brisketania]

Please stop. Keep your personal views of vaccine, no vaccine, etc to yourself and out of the game. And to answer the questions - its nobody business but mine and my family if I got or didnt get the vaccine. Ever hear of HIPAA. Personal medical information. Its PRIVATE.

[The Reformed American Republic]

This will continue unless everyone is vaccinated, which, without mandatory vaccinations, will never occur.

Do you have a reputable source source on that?

I don't need explicitly need one. About half of Republicans are dead set against the vaccine. We need most people to be vaccinated, while at the same time, half of the GOP are resistant to getting vaccinated. They ain't going to change their mind, and that will lead to more infections and more variants as a result. You yourself linked to a case where someone was unreasonable even after getting sick with covid and much of the party is like that. Check out the responses in the comments section to virtually every covid-19 video that explains the science and come back. It's covid-19 denialism and anti-vaxx propaganda through and through.

[North Washington Republic]

Please stop. Keep your personal views of vaccine, no vaccine, etc to yourself and out of the game. And to answer the questions - its nobody business but mine and my family if I got or didnt get the vaccine. Ever hear of HIPAA. Personal medical information. Its PRIVATE.

You do realize that this a debate form where people can express their views along as they follow the rules?

[North Washington Republic]

Do you have a reputable source source on that?

I don't need explicitly need one. About half of Republicans are dead set against the vaccine. We need most people to be vaccinated, while at the same time, half of the GOP are resistant to getting vaccinated. They ain't going to change their mind, and that will lead to more infections and more variants as a result. You yourself linked to a case where someone was unreasonable even after getting sick with covid and much of the party is like that. Check out the responses in the comments section to virtually every covid-19 video that explains the science and come back. It's covid-19 denialism and anti-vaxx propaganda through and through.

My point was that the CDC is likely to revise their mask guidelines for vaccinated Americans.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I don't need explicitly need one. About half of Republicans are dead set against the vaccine. We need most people to be vaccinated, while at the same time, half of the GOP are resistant to getting vaccinated. They ain't going to change their mind, and that will lead to more infections and more variants as a result. You yourself linked to a case where someone was unreasonable even after getting sick with covid and much of the party is like that. Check out the responses in the comments section to virtually every covid-19 video that explains the science and come back. It's covid-19 denialism and anti-vaxx propaganda through and through.

My point was that the CDC is likely to revise their mask guidelines for vaccinated Americans.

I understood that the first time. I thank the anti-vaxxers in part for that.

[Necroghastia]

Please stop. Keep your personal views of vaccine, no vaccine, etc to yourself and out of the game.

General is a board that has nothing to do with the game and usually discusses real-world issues.

And to answer the questions - its nobody business but mine and my family if I got or didnt get the vaccine. Ever hear of HIPAA. Personal medical information. Its PRIVATE.

Sure, but you're free to volunteer such information. No need to get in such a tizzy over a question on a thread you don't have to participate in.
Not to mention, though, it's really not just your business because every person that refuses to get a vaccine when they can means one more vector for a variant to emerge.
I would also like to recommend you read this article.

[San Lumen]

Remember when I said that the CDC could revise it’s mask guidelines due to surges? Well, it looks like, I was right.

This will continue unless everyone who can be vaccinated is vaccinated, which, without mandatory vaccinations, will never occur.

No it won't. We are not going to have on and off masks and in my view reinstating them would destroy there credibility and create less incentive to get the vaccine. They should leave guidelines as they are and say to people if you don't get the vaccine its on you.

[North Washington Republic]

My point was that the CDC is likely to revise their mask guidelines for vaccinated Americans.

I understood that the first time. I thank the anti-vaxxers in part for that.

I blame them too. Anti-vaxxers are selfish degenerates.

[Sincluda]

Please stop. Keep your personal views of vaccine, no vaccine, etc to yourself and out of the game. And to answer the questions - its nobody business but mine and my family if I got or didnt get the vaccine. Ever hear of HIPAA. Personal medical information. Its PRIVATE.

You are missing the point of this thread.

[Neutraligon]

Please stop. Keep your personal views of vaccine, no vaccine, etc to yourself and out of the game.

General is a board that has nothing to do with the game and usually discusses real-world issues.

And to answer the questions - its nobody business but mine and my family if I got or didnt get the vaccine. Ever hear of HIPAA. Personal medical information. Its PRIVATE.

Sure, but you're free to volunteer such information. No need to get in such a tizzy over a question on a thread you don't have to participate in.
Not to mention, though, it's really not just your business because every person that refuses to get a vaccine when they can means one more vector for a variant to emerge.
I would also like to recommend you read this article.

well that and...HIPAA does not apply to random people on the internet.

[Major-Tom]

This will continue unless everyone who can be vaccinated is vaccinated, which, without mandatory vaccinations, will never occur.

No it won't. We are not going to have on and off masks and in my view reinstating them would destroy there credibility and create less incentive to get the vaccine. They should leave guidelines as they are and say to people if you don't get the vaccine its on you.

Your distaste for another round of mask mandates doesn't downplay the very real possibility that they may come back in many states and locales. I might not like it either, but the fact is it seems growingly likely.

California to require state employees and healthcare workers to either provide proof of vaccination or get tested regularly

I would just mandate the vaccine unless someone medically cannot get it.

I'm sure you know this, but the legality behind whether or not the federal govt can mandate vaccines is so murky that there is no chance they'd attempt it.