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Should your country require everyone who can receive a COVID-19 vaccine to actually receive it?

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YES, BUT there should also be exceptions for philosophical and religious reasons
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NO, BUT EMPLOYERS SHOULD DO SO THEMSELVES
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NO, BUT people should be incentivised towards taking, and/or away from not taking, a COVID-19 vaccine (perhaps through lotteries, vaccine passports, etc.)
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NO
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Mon May 10, 2021 4:36 am

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Bring your conspiracy theories to Alex Jones, please. Not here.

I suppose it's possible if she's under 18 or her country forces people of a certain profession to take it.

Can confirm, my physician cousin was not given a choice of Coof Shot. The healthcare frontliners, herself among them, were given Sinovac.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon May 10, 2021 5:16 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone experiencing insomnia after the second dose?


Oh boy, is this a symptom no one told me about?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 10, 2021 5:23 am

Tornado Queendom wrote:I didn't want to get vaxxed, but I got the shot without my permission, and now I'm constantly trying to neutralize it.

Trying to neutralise the vaccine doesn't sound like something you could possibly do, and I can only imagine that you're putting your health at risk by trying.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon May 10, 2021 5:26 am

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Tornado Queendom wrote:I didn't want to get vaxxed, but I got the shot without my permission, and now I'm constantly trying to neutralize it.

Trying to neutralise the vaccine doesn't sound like something you could possibly do, and I can only imagine that you're putting your health at risk by trying.


https://youtu.be/-20wZmsPIbU

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 am

Tornado Queendom wrote:I didn't want to get vaxxed, but I got the shot without my permission, and now I'm constantly trying to neutralize it.

For most of you, it's the way back to normal. For me, an EXTREME introvert, it's another case of (metaphorically and indirectly) putting chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay.

Trying to neturalize? Rolling around in vats of the virus?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon May 10, 2021 6:13 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone experiencing insomnia after the second dose?


Oh boy, is this a symptom no one told me about?


It won’t necessarily happen to you, remember that. :)

Either way, it’s not a common side effect unless your immune system gets too revved up by the vaccine. I have a history of insomnia so this bout may be a contributing factor along with the vaccine. There’s no reason to think you’ll feel this way too.

If you are worried and have any questions or doubts, talk to the person who’ll be vaccinating you. I’m sure they can give you more information.
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Postby Dogmeat » Mon May 10, 2021 6:14 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone experiencing insomnia after the second dose?

Haven't heard of that one before. Probably either psychosomatic or caused by discomfort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Postby Dogmeat » Mon May 10, 2021 6:15 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:I didn't want to get vaxxed, but I got the shot without my permission, and now I'm constantly trying to neutralize it.

For most of you, it's the way back to normal. For me, an EXTREME introvert, it's another case of (metaphorically and indirectly) putting chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay.

Trying to neturalize? Rolling around in vats of the virus?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon May 10, 2021 6:17 am

Dogmeat wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone experiencing insomnia after the second dose?

Haven't heard of that one before. Probably either psychosomatic or caused by discomfort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Today marks the 8th day after my second dose and it’s been rough. I guess this is just the final hoopla before my body feels normal again. I hope. The damn mental fog alone is a bitch to deal with.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon May 10, 2021 6:37 am

Dogmeat wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Trying to neturalize? Rolling around in vats of the virus?

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I read that in the voice of.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon May 10, 2021 6:37 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Haven't heard of that one before. Probably either psychosomatic or caused by discomfort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Today marks the 8th day after my second dose and it’s been rough. I guess this is just the final hoopla before my body feels normal again. I hope. The damn mental fog alone is a bitch to deal with.

Still?
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Re: Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet?

Postby 95X » Mon May 10, 2021 7:42 am

The Alma Mater wrote:But receiving government benefits depending on being vaccinated ? Then just do away with the "personal choice" aspect completely and make it obligatory.
Galloism wrote:You can view it as a payment to get vaccinated. Government pays people to do certain things all the time via the tax code anyway (and this stimulus was done via the tax code).
This ties into an idea I woke up to the other morning: imagine if legislation were passed that commands IRS to state, "to receive any federal income tax refund of any kind for tax years 2021-2029, including any refundable credits payable with no tax due, proof of full COVID-19 vaccination is mandatory. Include a copy with your tax return. If you do not include a bona fide copy of such a document, IRS will accept your return but cannot issue any refund." :twisted:

I also had another idea that could lead to universal vaccination: imagine if the United States were to announce that there is a nationwide vaccination target percentage and if it isn't met by a given date then there will be a nationwide "stay home, stay healthy" order for several weeks. I would take a guess that every business would take to any means possible to do whatever it takes to avoid that.

(Obligatory disclaimer that I haven't heard of either being considered.)
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon May 10, 2021 7:54 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Haven't heard of that one before. Probably either psychosomatic or caused by discomfort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Today marks the 8th day after my second dose and it’s been rough. I guess this is just the final hoopla before my body feels normal again. I hope. The damn mental fog alone is a bitch to deal with.


That's not normal. I dont think it's dangerous but you should see a doctor. You should have felt better after like 3 days at most. I believe that because you got covid before, getting two doses of the vaccine may have had some unnatural effects.
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Postby Nakena » Mon May 10, 2021 7:55 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Haven't heard of that one before. Probably either psychosomatic or caused by discomfort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Today marks the 8th day after my second dose and it’s been rough. I guess this is just the final hoopla before my body feels normal again. I hope. The damn mental fog alone is a bitch to deal with.


Which one did you got?

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Postby Caleonia » Mon May 10, 2021 7:56 am

I just can’t wait until the 17th... I just wanna get fully vaccinated and get the issue over with already..
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Postby San Lumen » Mon May 10, 2021 8:11 am

Caleonia wrote:I just can’t wait until the 17th... I just wanna get fully vaccinated and get the issue over with already..

My second dose is that day as well.

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Postby Shazbotdom » Mon May 10, 2021 9:48 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone experiencing insomnia after the second dose?


I regularly get Insomnia, so if I got it after my 2nd Moderna, I didn't notice it happen.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon May 10, 2021 9:50 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone experiencing insomnia after the second dose?


For the first night, but that was mostly because I had other symptoms reminiscent of a bad cold and stubbornly refused to medicate. The second night I dosed up on pain killers and fever reducers and slept like a rock. Woke up without any more symptoms. It was like a reset button.
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Postby Xmara » Mon May 10, 2021 10:16 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone experiencing insomnia after the second dose?

I had trouble sleeping, but that was less because of insomnia and more because I was in so much pain I couldn’t get comfortable.

Fortunately all of my side effects went away within less than a week.
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Postby Xmara » Mon May 10, 2021 10:17 am

Tornado Queendom wrote:I didn't want to get vaxxed, but I got the shot without my permission, and now I'm constantly trying to neutralize it.

For most of you, it's the way back to normal. For me, an EXTREME introvert, it's another case of (metaphorically and indirectly) putting chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay.

What are you even talking about?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon May 10, 2021 10:24 am

I am really not looking forward to my second vaccine. I gotta do it, and I will, but Jesus christ this sounds like it's gonna be the worst vaccine I ever got.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon May 10, 2021 10:48 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Today marks the 8th day after my second dose and it’s been rough. I guess this is just the final hoopla before my body feels normal again. I hope. The damn mental fog alone is a bitch to deal with.

Still?


Nah. I recovered from the one caused by the first dose. But the second dose kicked my ass.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Today marks the 8th day after my second dose and it’s been rough. I guess this is just the final hoopla before my body feels normal again. I hope. The damn mental fog alone is a bitch to deal with.


Which one did you got?


Moderna.

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Today marks the 8th day after my second dose and it’s been rough. I guess this is just the final hoopla before my body feels normal again. I hope. The damn mental fog alone is a bitch to deal with.


That's not normal. I dont think it's dangerous but you should see a doctor. You should have felt better after like 3 days at most. I believe that because you got covid before, getting two doses of the vaccine may have had some unnatural effects.


My GP says it’s not unheard of. Particularly for women in my age group (35-45). It should clear in a day or two.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon May 10, 2021 10:53 am

Xmara wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone experiencing insomnia after the second dose?

I had trouble sleeping, but that was less because of insomnia and more because I was in so much pain I couldn’t get comfortable.

Fortunately all of my side effects went away within less than a week.


That’s good. I mean, we all react differently. I felt awful last Monday night (when I got the vaccine), and all of last Tuesday. By Wednesday the worst was over. By Friday, lymph nodes were back to normal. My only issues have been lingering fatigue/mental fog and Saturday and last night insomnia. My GP said it could take up to a week to feel ok for some people.

Honestly, as uncomfortable as it’s been, it wasn’t even close to how bad I felt when I got CoVID.
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Postby Heaven Hieghts » Mon May 10, 2021 11:41 am

San Lumen wrote:
Caleonia wrote:I just can’t wait until the 17th... I just wanna get fully vaccinated and get the issue over with already..

My second dose is that day as well.

I get mine on the 20th! Also super excited.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon May 10, 2021 1:31 pm

My first dose is booked for Thursday.

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