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Should your country require everyone who can receive a COVID-19 vaccine to actually receive it?

YES
159
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YES, BUT there should also be exceptions for philosophical and religious reasons
20
7%
NO, BUT EMPLOYERS SHOULD DO SO THEMSELVES
15
5%
NO, BUT people should be incentivised towards taking, and/or away from not taking, a COVID-19 vaccine (perhaps through lotteries, vaccine passports, etc.)
41
14%
NO
67
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Total votes : 302

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:22 pm

Of those who’ve had the first and second dose, either, do you feel like you’ve been left with lingering fatigue? Even weeks after taking the shot?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:23 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Of those who’ve had the first and second dose, either, do you feel like you’ve been left with lingering fatigue? Even weeks after taking the shot?


Why? Are you not feeling so good?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:23 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Of those who’ve had the first and second dose, either, do you feel like you’ve been left with lingering fatigue? Even weeks after taking the shot?


Why? Are you not feeling so good?


Fatigued. Been so since the first shot. I get the second dose on Monday.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:24 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Why? Are you not feeling so good?


Fatigued. Been so since the first shot. I get the second dose on Monday.


Do you think it could be seasonal allergies or lack of sleep?
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:24 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Of those who’ve had the first and second dose, either, do you feel like you’ve been left with lingering fatigue? Even weeks after taking the shot?


I felt minor fatigue for a couple of days after my J&J vaccine.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:25 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Fatigued. Been so since the first shot. I get the second dose on Monday.


Do you think it could be seasonal allergies or lack of sleep?


I’ve considered the allergies as we moved to a different state and we’re getting used to the allergens here but I was wondering if others have felt lingering fatigue after getting the vaccine.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:25 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Of those who’ve had the first and second dose, either, do you feel like you’ve been left with lingering fatigue? Even weeks after taking the shot?


I felt minor fatigue for a couple of days after my J&J vaccine.


That's normal. But weeks of fatigue is not.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:25 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Of those who’ve had the first and second dose, either, do you feel like you’ve been left with lingering fatigue? Even weeks after taking the shot?


My arm hurt for about a week and nah, I feel amazing actually, though it's probably more me being on Jenny Craig. :lol:

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:30 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Of those who’ve had the first and second dose, either, do you feel like you’ve been left with lingering fatigue? Even weeks after taking the shot?


My arm hurt for about a week and nah, I feel amazing actually, though it's probably more me being on Jenny Craig. :lol:


Working out helps, but we’re both fatigued and it took us two weeks to shake off the mental fog from the first dose.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:34 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Of those who’ve had the first and second dose, either, do you feel like you’ve been left with lingering fatigue? Even weeks after taking the shot?


I felt minor fatigue for a couple of days after my J&J vaccine.


That’s not uncommon. However, I’ve felt fatigued since my first shot. It could be allergies like Rojava pointed out. I was just curious to see if others have felt this too for long.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:37 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
My arm hurt for about a week and nah, I feel amazing actually, though it's probably more me being on Jenny Craig. :lol:


Working out helps, but we’re both fatigued and it took us two weeks to shake off the mental fog from the first dose.


That's apparently actually normal, just as long as you don't develop Coronavirus symptoms your vaccine is probably working as intended. Which one did you guys take?

I got the Moderna one, my second dose is in another week. Apparently the second dose is harsher. Maybe talk to your doctor about it.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:40 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Working out helps, but we’re both fatigued and it took us two weeks to shake off the mental fog from the first dose.


That's apparently actually normal, just as long as you don't develop Coronavirus symptoms your vaccine is probably working as intended. Which one did you guys take?

I got the Moderna one, my second dose is in another week. Apparently the second dose is harsher. Maybe talk to your doctor about it.


As I was vaccinated by the FL department of health, I was given Moderna. Gallo got his vaccines at Walgreens, so he got Pfizer.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:55 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
My arm hurt for about a week and nah, I feel amazing actually, though it's probably more me being on Jenny Craig. :lol:


Working out helps, but we’re both fatigued and it took us two weeks to shake off the mental fog from the first dose.


You guys are that fatigued? You and your husband?

What did they give you? All of my family has had our first doses and my parents had dose two and none of us felt this way.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:59 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Working out helps, but we’re both fatigued and it took us two weeks to shake off the mental fog from the first dose.


You guys are that fatigued? You and your husband?

What did they give you? All of my family has had our first doses and my parents had dose two and none of us felt this way.


Well, according to a contact that participated in the initial vaccine trials, it’s thought that people who’ve had CoVID already, I did a few months ago, could react like this to the vaccines. More research is required of course and this is not peer-reviewed but that’s what we were told. Or it’s allergies. I was just wondering if others have felt this way.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:15 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Because it would have been done a long time ago if the government thought it was worth engaging them.

Hmm, just like the police thing would have been done long ago if it was worth engaging on. Just like the Civil Rights stuff in the 60s would have been done long ago if it were worth engaging in.


Did you forgot a right wing militia was plotting to kidnap and kill Governor Whitmer? It is not worth it. Michigan is full of them.

You'll cause more harm then good and only cause more bloodshed. Any proposal of segregation, camps, walling off communities or mass arrests is complete and utter insanity and no government is going to engage is such ludicrously.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:16 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Hmm, just like the police thing would have been done long ago if it was worth engaging on. Just like the Civil Rights stuff in the 60s would have been done long ago if it were worth engaging in.


Did you forgot a right wing militia was plotting to kidnap and kill Governor Whitmer? It is not worth it. Michigan is full of them.

You'll cause more harm then good and only cause more bloodshed. Any proposal of segregation, camps, walling off communities or mass arrests is complete and utter insanity and no government is going to engage is such ludicrously.


The initial group plotting to kidnap Whitmer was very much apolitical and the ringleader was a left leaning anarchist in on it because he thought COVID restrictions were fascist. Don't create false history.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:19 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Did you forgot a right wing militia was plotting to kidnap and kill Governor Whitmer? It is not worth it. Michigan is full of them.

You'll cause more harm then good and only cause more bloodshed. Any proposal of segregation, camps, walling off communities or mass arrests is complete and utter insanity and no government is going to engage is such ludicrously.


The initial group plotting to kidnap Whitmer was very much apolitical and the ringleader was a left leaning anarchist in on it because he thought COVID restrictions were fascist. Don't create false history.


And I’m sure you believe that the January 6 attack on the Capitol was done by Antifa.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:20 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The initial group plotting to kidnap Whitmer was very much apolitical and the ringleader was a left leaning anarchist in on it because he thought COVID restrictions were fascist. Don't create false history.


And I’m sure you believe that the January 6 attack on the Capitol was done by Antifa.
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My guy the ringleader literally had a YouTube channel with anarchist flags on his wall.

At least try and do some research before you embarrass yourself.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:
And I’m sure you believe that the January 6 attack on the Capitol was done by Antifa.
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My guy the ringleader literally had a YouTube channel with anarchist flags on his wall.

At least try and do some research before you embarrass yourself.

Michigan is full of militia groups. engaging these people full on isn;t worth it and any ridiculous proposal you or anyone else has come up with is not going to be implemented by any government because of not only how unfeasible it would be but how unpopular it would be.

Few are going to support mass segregation based on getting one vaccine, walling off entire communities or mass arrests.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:24 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
My guy the ringleader literally had a YouTube channel with anarchist flags on his wall.

At least try and do some research before you embarrass yourself.

Michigan is full of militia groups. engaging these people full on isn;t worth it and any ridiculous proposal you or anyone else has come up with is not going to be implemented by any government because of not only how unfeasible it would be but how unpopular it would be.

Few are going to support mass segregation based on getting one vaccine, walling off entire communities or mass arrests.


I have more experience with militia groups than most on NSG and I can assure you very few of those people are willing to actually fight. It's a hobby thing for most, which is what led to me drifting away from those groups.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:25 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
My guy the ringleader literally had a YouTube channel with anarchist flags on his wall.

At least try and do some research before you embarrass yourself.

Michigan is full of militia groups. engaging these people full on isn;t worth it and any ridiculous proposal you or anyone else has come up with is not going to be implemented by any government because of not only how unfeasible it would be but how unpopular it would be.

Few are going to support mass segregation based on getting one vaccine, walling off entire communities or mass arrests.


Why do we insist on politicizing healthcare? I wonder that.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:25 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Michigan is full of militia groups. engaging these people full on isn;t worth it and any ridiculous proposal you or anyone else has come up with is not going to be implemented by any government because of not only how unfeasible it would be but how unpopular it would be.

Few are going to support mass segregation based on getting one vaccine, walling off entire communities or mass arrests.


I have more experience with militia groups than most on NSG and I can assure you very few of those people are willing to actually fight. It's a hobby thing for most, which is what led to me drifting away from those groups.


Tell me why hasn't the government gone after them all? Why don't they announce the other insane proposals that have been discussed?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I have more experience with militia groups than most on NSG and I can assure you very few of those people are willing to actually fight. It's a hobby thing for most, which is what led to me drifting away from those groups.


Tell me why hasn't the government gone after them all? Why don't they announce the other insane proposals that have been discussed?


They don't go after them because 99% of them are harmless or, even worse, openly supportive of the state. Last summer was the best example. These nominally anti-government militias who proclaim themselves to be ready to fight the state at a moments notice ended up proudly siding with law enforcement against protestors with the sole exception of boog bois who are an eclectic mixture of every political belief possible only united by guns and violent resistance to gun control.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:32 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Tell me why hasn't the government gone after them all? Why don't they announce the other insane proposals that have been discussed?


They don't go after them because 99% of them are harmless or, even worse, openly supportive of the state. Last summer was the best example. These nominally anti-government militias who proclaim themselves to be ready to fight the state at a moments notice ended up proudly siding with law enforcement against protestors with the sole exception of boog bois who are an eclectic mixture of every political belief possible only united by guns and violent resistance to gun control.


Ok if you say so. Why has no government announced any of the insane proposals other people have come up with here? Perhaps they know how unpopular it would be and that it would be career ending and likely lead to impeachment.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
They don't go after them because 99% of them are harmless or, even worse, openly supportive of the state. Last summer was the best example. These nominally anti-government militias who proclaim themselves to be ready to fight the state at a moments notice ended up proudly siding with law enforcement against protestors with the sole exception of boog bois who are an eclectic mixture of every political belief possible only united by guns and violent resistance to gun control.


Ok if you say so. Why has no government announced any of the insane proposals other people have come up with here? Perhaps they know how unpopular it would be and that it would be career ending and likely lead to impeachment.


Because the western world is run by cowards who for the past half century have been unwilling to take measures needed to actually solve problems.
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