Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[New Visayan Islands]

Data for PH as of April 12th, 1600 PHT/0400 EDT.

Detailed update. Also:

• How do you say "fuck me sideways" in Hindi?
• Roque: Over one million Filipinos served!
• You know what I'm thinking, but NO. There will be no JoJo references this time.
• KR: Local production of Coof Shots is a go!

[Zurkir]

(Image)
Data for PH as of April 12th, 1600 PHT/0400 EDT.

Detailed update. Also:

• How do you say "fuck me sideways" in Hindi?
• Roque: Over one million Filipinos served!
• You know what I'm thinking, but NO. There will be no JoJo references this time.
• KR: Local production of Coof Shots is a go!

मुझे चोदो।
(Mujhe chodo.)

[New Visayan Islands]

(Image)
Data for PH as of April 12th, 1600 PHT/0400 EDT.

Detailed update. Also:

• How do you say "fuck me sideways" in Hindi?
• Roque: Over one million Filipinos served!
• You know what I'm thinking, but NO. There will be no JoJo references this time.
• KR: Local production of Coof Shots is a go!

मुझे चोदो।
(Mujhe chodo.)

Rhetorical Question Blunder aside, thanks.

BUT I DIGRESS: And people still count on Sinovac?

[Zurkir]

Your welcome.

*figured as probably rhetorical, translates anyway*

[Samudera Darussalam]

मुझे चोदो।
(Mujhe chodo.)

Rhetorical Question Blunder aside, thanks.

BUT I DIGRESS: And people still count on Sinovac?

That....really becomes a personal dilemma for me. I mean, I really want to get vaccinated - better than never I guess - but do we get told about what kind of vaccine that we are taking? I don't really want to take Sinovac since....well, personally I think the data is a bit shady.
I mean, I understand when the govt. said to just take any kind of vaccine offered by medical personnels, with perhaps, the limited amount and types of vaccine that Indonesia currently have and the severity of the pandemic there, but still. Why should I take a less effective vaccine if there is a better alternative?

[Sharania]

Bulgarian PM: price of Pfizer vaccine jumps from €12 to €19,50

The European Commission has signed contracts with Pfizer for the supply of COVID-19 vaccines in 2022 and 2023 for €19.50 per dose, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borissov revealed on Sunday.

Borissov boasted how European solidarity and his diplomatic efforts had secured an additional 2.7 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine to be delivered to Bulgaria in the next two months.

“Pfizer was €12, then it became €15.50. Contracts are now being signed for 900 million vaccines at a price of €19.50,” the PM said, to illustrate his claim that prices are rising sharply.

“Now we are most afraid of the French variant. So many more variants will appear … Because €19.50 for 900 million will cost nearly €18 billion. First with a jab, then a second, third and fourth,” Borissov continued, adding that experts must set much higher budgets for vaccines in the upcoming budget.

Under an agreement with the vaccine producing companies, the European Commission has so far refused to reveal the price of vaccines. However, last December Belgian Secretary of State Eva De Bleeker shared on Twitter the vaccine prices negotiated by the Commission, as well as the number of doses purchased by her government. Then, it became known that the AstraZeneca jab costs €1.78 compared to €12 for Pfizer-BioNTech.

Borissov is known for often revealing in public, following EU summits, information that should normally be kept confidential. Regarding Bulgaria’s vaccine strategy, EURACTIV reported back in January that the country had put all its eggs in one basket, by banking on the cheaper AstraZeneca vaccine, and not using its quotas of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. Later, Borissov demanded a “fairer distribution”.

First of all - Borissov is clearly a security risk for the EU, what with his murky dealings with Russia and China. Second - yeah, IMAGINE THAT, Pfizer might cost more than AZ - but it works! I mean, does PM Borissov and the likes of him want to "cheapen" the lives of their citizens and opt for something like Sinovac and end up both spending money AND failing to save lives? “Fairer distribution”, my ass... Why Bulgaria won't try it together with the command economy? OH, WAIT...

In other EU news:

- Netherlands experiments with mass events. The planned relaxation of the lockdown in the Netherlands will be postponed by one week, a spokesman for the Government Information Service told the ANP news agency. At the same time, the Netherlands is experimenting with the return of mass events.
- Vaccination in France is speeding up with the opening of vaccination to the over-55s. Health Minister Olivier Véran made several announcements on Sunday in the Journal du Dimanche. In addition to opening vaccination to all people over 55, he also announced the authorisation of self-tests.
- Germany’s far-right AfD firms up election strategy with EU exit and anti-lockdown campaign. Germany’s far-right AfD party vowed to campaign for an end to COVID-19 restrictions, a tougher line on migration and an exit from the EU as it finalised its manifesto for the September elections over the weekend.

[Note from self - don't be anti-lockdown, folks. Don't be like literal neoNazis]

- ATHENS: 1.1 billion fake doses currently in the market. Fake offers of 1.1 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines from supposed intermediaries to EU governments are currently in the market, said Ville Itälä, Director General of the European Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF). In an interview with Greek journal Ta Nea, Itälä said the value of these fake offers stands at €15 billion.
- Romanian government sets new COVID-19 vaccination target. The Romanian government brought forward its vaccination target by almost two months, with Prime Minister Florin Cîțu promising that many restrictions could be lifted if 10 million people get their jabs by 1 August.

More awkward news from Germany: German Chancellor Angela Merkel suddenly canceled her appointment for vaccination with the AstraZeneca vaccine, which was scheduled for April 11. Merkel was to be vaccinated at Berlin's Tempelhofer Feld Vaccination Center. According to the news, the appointment was canceled through Doctolib, an online appointment service.
At the same time, government spokesman Steffen Seibert said that the chancellor will be vaccinated "as soon as possible" and will inform the public about it.

[Genivaria]

Canadian church shut down, fenced off for not complying with COVID-19 lockdown orders
Based as hell

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Malaysia to give Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine to people aged 60 and above

ALL over-60s or just some of them? MY PARENTS ARE OVER 60! These pro-CCP sellouts are all fucking traitors to this country. I will never forgive them for this! Fuck the Malaysian government all the way to hell and back.

Vaccinations for over-60s and those with co-morbidities begin Apr. 19. That's next Monday.

Could it be that bookings and uptake are low because people are hesitant to receive Sinovac? That's certainly the case in Hong Kong. That may also be the case in Malaysia. Maybe actually listening to people's concerns and allowing people to choose might solve 50% of the problem?

But no. "All vaccines approved by the NPRA are safe and effective and anyone who says otherwise will be arrested for spreading anti-vaxxer misinformation. But we're totally listening, even though Parliament's been dissolved for seven months, negating any chance of parliamentary oversight and debate, and we're ruling by decree because Covid. You can trust us. Really."

China mulls mixing COVID-19 vaccines to improve efficacy of jabs

Getting desperate are we?

मुझे चोदो।
(Mujhe chodo.)

Rhetorical Question Blunder aside, thanks.

BUT I DIGRESS: And people still count on Sinovac?

God help Brazil, Turkey, Chile, Indonesia, the Philippines, Hong Kong, and Malaysia. God help us all. My parents are going to be shortchanged and they're going to have to get a booster from Pfizer as soon as one is made available. My government considers their lives expendable.

Rhetorical Question Blunder aside, thanks.

BUT I DIGRESS: And people still count on Sinovac?

That....really becomes a personal dilemma for me. I mean, I really want to get vaccinated - better than never I guess - but do we get told about what kind of vaccine that we are taking? I don't really want to take Sinovac since....well, personally I think the data is a bit shady.
I mean, I understand when the govt. said to just take any kind of vaccine offered by medical personnels, with perhaps, the limited amount and types of vaccine that Indonesia currently have and the severity of the pandemic there, but still. Why should I take a less effective vaccine if there is a better alternative?

That's the thing. Why should you? Why settle for less? Why allow your government to get away with this kind of BS? Hell, even Sputnik V is over 90% effective. I would readily take that over Sinovac if I had to choose. Which I don't. I'll only find out which vaccine I'm getting the moment I actually receive my shot. The government's playing Russian roulette with our lives and especially my parents' lives and it makes me sick to my stomach.

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I just had the sheer misfortune of reading some insufferable pro-CCP Malaysian's comments over at Malaysiakini. I really wish I hadn't. The fucker is gloating over the fact that criticizing Sinovac can get us arrested all the while spreading misinformation about mRNA vaccines such as Pfizer, which just so happens to coincide with the CCP's goal of suppressing dissent abroad, discrediting superior Western and Russian vaccines, and promoting its own brand. He seems to want Chinese laws to apply to Malaysians on Malaysian soil. This unpatriotic fifth-columnist for the PRC needs to be investigated by Special Branch for disloyalty to the Agong and permanently exiled to China. Freedom of speech is a two-way street. I hope that smug, smirking POS gets arrested for espionage or something. He must be a spy and a traitor.

[Kowani]

India surges past Brazil to become the country with the second-most number of covid cases, with 13.52 million

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5 ... infections

Regeneron says antibody therapy prevents COVID-19 infections

[Atheris]

India surges past Brazil to become the country with the second-most number of covid cases, with 13.52 million

Whenever I hear "Brazil" and "coronavirus" in the same sentence I can't not think of this meme.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Canadian church shut down, fenced off for not complying with COVID-19 lockdown orders
Based as hell

Based and ronapilled.

[Munchers]

I got it once, had the sniffles and was fine in 3 days.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I got it once, had the sniffles and was fine in 3 days.

And I knew 5 people who ended up hospitalized due to covid.

[Munchers]

I got it once, had the sniffles and was fine in 3 days.

And I knew 5 people who ended up hospitalized due to covid.

Well, that’s bad. But not everyone gets put in the hospital. I happened to get lucky and not need it. Not sure how your experience invalidates mine.

[Reploid Productions]

And I knew 5 people who ended up hospitalized due to covid.

Well, that’s bad. But not everyone gets put in the hospital. I happened to get lucky and not need it. Not sure how your experience invalidates mine.

Getting yourself nuked for flaming doesn't magically make your 3-day forumban no longer valid. *** DEAT for posting past ban. ***

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Well, that’s bad. But not everyone gets put in the hospital. I happened to get lucky and not need it. Not sure how your experience invalidates mine.

Getting yourself nuked for flaming doesn't magically make your 3-day forumban no longer valid. *** DEAT for posting past ban. ***

Thanks reppy. That guy was going somewhere with his post about not getting too sick and not a good place either.

[CoraSpia]

Bulgarian PM: price of Pfizer vaccine jumps from €12 to €19,50

The European Commission has signed contracts with Pfizer for the supply of COVID-19 vaccines in 2022 and 2023 for €19.50 per dose, Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borissov revealed on Sunday.

Borissov boasted how European solidarity and his diplomatic efforts had secured an additional 2.7 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine to be delivered to Bulgaria in the next two months.

“Pfizer was €12, then it became €15.50. Contracts are now being signed for 900 million vaccines at a price of €19.50,” the PM said, to illustrate his claim that prices are rising sharply.

“Now we are most afraid of the French variant. So many more variants will appear … Because €19.50 for 900 million will cost nearly €18 billion. First with a jab, then a second, third and fourth,” Borissov continued, adding that experts must set much higher budgets for vaccines in the upcoming budget.

Under an agreement with the vaccine producing companies, the European Commission has so far refused to reveal the price of vaccines. However, last December Belgian Secretary of State Eva De Bleeker shared on Twitter the vaccine prices negotiated by the Commission, as well as the number of doses purchased by her government. Then, it became known that the AstraZeneca jab costs €1.78 compared to €12 for Pfizer-BioNTech.

Borissov is known for often revealing in public, following EU summits, information that should normally be kept confidential. Regarding Bulgaria’s vaccine strategy, EURACTIV reported back in January that the country had put all its eggs in one basket, by banking on the cheaper AstraZeneca vaccine, and not using its quotas of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna. Later, Borissov demanded a “fairer distribution”.

First of all - Borissov is clearly a security risk for the EU, what with his murky dealings with Russia and China. Second - yeah, IMAGINE THAT, Pfizer might cost more than AZ - but it works! I mean, does PM Borissov and the likes of him want to "cheapen" the lives of their citizens and opt for something like Sinovac and end up both spending money AND failing to save lives? “Fairer distribution”, my ass... Why Bulgaria won't try it together with the command economy? OH, WAIT...

In other EU news:

- Netherlands experiments with mass events. The planned relaxation of the lockdown in the Netherlands will be postponed by one week, a spokesman for the Government Information Service told the ANP news agency. At the same time, the Netherlands is experimenting with the return of mass events.
- Vaccination in France is speeding up with the opening of vaccination to the over-55s. Health Minister Olivier Véran made several announcements on Sunday in the Journal du Dimanche. In addition to opening vaccination to all people over 55, he also announced the authorisation of self-tests.
- Germany’s far-right AfD firms up election strategy with EU exit and anti-lockdown campaign. Germany’s far-right AfD party vowed to campaign for an end to COVID-19 restrictions, a tougher line on migration and an exit from the EU as it finalised its manifesto for the September elections over the weekend.

[Note from self - don't be anti-lockdown, folks. Don't be like literal neoNazis]

- ATHENS: 1.1 billion fake doses currently in the market. Fake offers of 1.1 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines from supposed intermediaries to EU governments are currently in the market, said Ville Itälä, Director General of the European Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF). In an interview with Greek journal Ta Nea, Itälä said the value of these fake offers stands at €15 billion.
- Romanian government sets new COVID-19 vaccination target. The Romanian government brought forward its vaccination target by almost two months, with Prime Minister Florin Cîțu promising that many restrictions could be lifted if 10 million people get their jabs by 1 August.

More awkward news from Germany: German Chancellor Angela Merkel suddenly canceled her appointment for vaccination with the AstraZeneca vaccine, which was scheduled for April 11. Merkel was to be vaccinated at Berlin's Tempelhofer Feld Vaccination Center. According to the news, the appointment was canceled through Doctolib, an online appointment service.
At the same time, government spokesman Steffen Seibert said that the chancellor will be vaccinated "as soon as possible" and will inform the public about it.

I wonder if the way that the EU have been acting in bad faith with the AZ one has something to do with why the price is going up for them?

[USS Monitor]

Rhetorical Question Blunder aside, thanks.

BUT I DIGRESS: And people still count on Sinovac?

That....really becomes a personal dilemma for me. I mean, I really want to get vaccinated - better than never I guess - but do we get told about what kind of vaccine that we are taking? I don't really want to take Sinovac since....well, personally I think the data is a bit shady.
I mean, I understand when the govt. said to just take any kind of vaccine offered by medical personnels, with perhaps, the limited amount and types of vaccine that Indonesia currently have and the severity of the pandemic there, but still. Why should I take a less effective vaccine if there is a better alternative?

I'm not sure about in Indonesia, but a lot of places will tell you which vaccine they're using.

For example, I signed up to get vaccinated at a pharmacy down the road from my house, and they said they are using Pfizer. I got an info page about the vaccine along with my appointment confirmation.

[Kowani]

Australia drops Johnson and Johnson's vaccine

Johnson & Johnson's one-dose COVID-19 vaccine won't be included in Australia's national rollout due to its similarities to the AstraZeneca vaccine, government health officials said Monday.

A spokesperson for Australian Health Minister Greg Hunt told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. and The Guardian the federal government will not be moving ahead with potential purchases of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, at least for now. The move is being made because, like the AstraZeneca product, it is an "adenovirus" vaccine in which a deactivated virus is used to produce a desired immune response.

"The government does not intend to purchase any further adenovirus vaccines at this time," the health ministry spokesperson said Monday.

Australia has deals in place with Pfizer and AstraZeneca as well as Novavax -- which has yet to produce an approved vaccine -- and was in negotiations with Johnson & Johnson when the decision was made.

The government last week issued an advisory regarding the AstraZeneca vaccine, warning that it may cause extremely rare but potentially deadly blood clots in patients under 50.

In contrast, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines use a newer "messenger RNA" method in which bits of the virus DNA are deployed to produce an antibody response.

After issuing last week's advisory against the AstraZeneca vaccine, Australian health authorities recommended Pfizer's product instead be given to people under 50. Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Friday announced the government had secured a commitment for 20 million more doses from the U.S. company.

[CoraSpia]

That....really becomes a personal dilemma for me. I mean, I really want to get vaccinated - better than never I guess - but do we get told about what kind of vaccine that we are taking? I don't really want to take Sinovac since....well, personally I think the data is a bit shady.
I mean, I understand when the govt. said to just take any kind of vaccine offered by medical personnels, with perhaps, the limited amount and types of vaccine that Indonesia currently have and the severity of the pandemic there, but still. Why should I take a less effective vaccine if there is a better alternative?

I'm not sure about in Indonesia, but a lot of places will tell you which vaccine they're using.

For example, I signed up to get vaccinated at a pharmacy down the road from my house, and they said they are using Pfizer. I got an info page about the vaccine along with my appointment confirmation.

It might also not matter depending on why you're getting vaccinated. If it's not to get ill then the fact most countries give you no choice is an issue, if it's just to fulfil any vaccine passport requirements as it is in my case then just get what's on offer, it counts.

[The Alma Mater]

That....really becomes a personal dilemma for me. I mean, I really want to get vaccinated - better than never I guess - but do we get told about what kind of vaccine that we are taking? I don't really want to take Sinovac since....well, personally I think the data is a bit shady.
I mean, I understand when the govt. said to just take any kind of vaccine offered by medical personnels, with perhaps, the limited amount and types of vaccine that Indonesia currently have and the severity of the pandemic there, but still. Why should I take a less effective vaccine if there is a better alternative?

I'm not sure about in Indonesia, but a lot of places will tell you which vaccine they're using.

For example, I signed up to get vaccinated at a pharmacy down the road from my house, and they said they are using Pfizer. I got an info page about the vaccine along with my appointment confirmation.

You can usually also make an educated guess. Do you live in the middle of nowhere far from facilities with cold storage ? Then you probably will not get pfizer from your "local" doctor.

[CoraSpia]

I'm not sure about in Indonesia, but a lot of places will tell you which vaccine they're using.

For example, I signed up to get vaccinated at a pharmacy down the road from my house, and they said they are using Pfizer. I got an info page about the vaccine along with my appointment confirmation.

You can usually also make an educated guess. Do you live in the middle of nowhere far from facilities with cold storage ? Then you probably will not get pfizer from your "local" doctor.

Tbh though, even though it'd be a logistical nightmare to give everyone a choice on which vaccine they get nobody should have to make an 'educated guess' as to what it is. You should have a right to know what's going into your own body, and to make your decision to accept or refuse that.

[USS Monitor]

You can usually also make an educated guess. Do you live in the middle of nowhere far from facilities with cold storage ? Then you probably will not get pfizer from your "local" doctor.

Tbh though, even though it'd be a logistical nightmare to give everyone a choice on which vaccine they get nobody should have to make an 'educated guess' as to what it is. You should have a right to know what's going into your own body, and to make your decision to accept or refuse that.

You can always try asking if they don't make it obvious.

[The Black Forrest]

Tbh though, even though it'd be a logistical nightmare to give everyone a choice on which vaccine they get nobody should have to make an 'educated guess' as to what it is. You should have a right to know what's going into your own body, and to make your decision to accept or refuse that.

You can always try asking if they don't make it obvious.

Indeed. I asked when I got my first shot and they said it was pfizer. They even wrote that on my vaccine card.