Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[Neanderthaland]

I never said it would go away but it will be something we learn to live with and that means no masks ,no canceled events and no vaccination passports.

why on earth does it mean that
we've learned to live with all kinds of diseases but i presume you still wash your hands

"You mean, you expect me to wash my hands forever, and not just until the plague ends?! That's tyranny!!"

[San Lumen]

why on earth does it mean that
we've learned to live with all kinds of diseases but i presume you still wash your hands

"You mean, you expect me to wash my hands forever, and not just until the plague ends?! That's tyranny!!"

I do wash my hands. Dont make ridiculous comments like this.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I meant to link to this: https://www.esconi.org/esconi_earth_sci ... s-dna.html

[Kannap]

I don't think anyone fully knows, but it would definitely happen faster if you, and people like you, would stop doing everything in their power to make sure it never ends.

No pandemic is forever.

Of course, two options:

1. We take action to end the pandemic quickly and on our terms while saving as many lives as possible

OR 2. we wait until the pandemic ends by everybody who has the virus dying off, which will take longer if it's even possible.

I know which option I'd like for us to take

[Grave_n_idle]

"You mean, you expect me to wash my hands forever, and not just until the plague ends?! That's tyranny!!"

I do wash my hands. Dont make ridiculous comments like this.

That's a ridiculous comment.

You DO wash your hands but uncounted generations didn't because the dominant theories about the origins of disease were either miasma or demons. You wash your hands because the world discovered germ theory and literally everything changed, forever.

You know, the thing you're saying won't happen, but that you, yourself, are evidence of.

[Picairn]

I never said it would go away but it will be something we learn to live with and that means no masks ,no canceled events and no vaccination passports.

Do you wash your hands, Lumen? Before the germ theory of disease was discovered, sanitation wasn't considered something to do regularly.

[San Lumen]

I never said it would go away but it will be something we learn to live with and that means no masks ,no canceled events and no vaccination passports.

Do you wash your hands, Lumen? Before the germ theory of disease was discovered, sanitation wasn't considered something to do regularly.

Yes

[Neanderthaland]

Or it could mean all of those things for as long as covid exists. And you'll just have to deal with it.

I very much doubt that. Few would accept that.

And it is precisely their reluctance that makes it more likely to be the case.

[Moscareinas]

No pandemic is forever.

Of course, two options:

1. We take action to end the pandemic quickly and on our terms while saving as many lives as possible

OR 2. we wait until the pandemic ends by everybody who has the virus dying off, which will take longer if it's even possible.

I know which option I'd like for us to take

but it's not ending yet, therefore it ain't ending ever! now our only choice is to love this pandemic and learn to live with constant death! yay death!

[San Lumen]

I very much doubt that. Few would accept that.

And it is precisely their reluctance that makes it more likely to be the case.

its not going to be the case. There is zero possibility when we are in our twilight years we are telling our grandkids about a time when we saw faces in public.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No pandemic is forever.

Of course, two options:

1. We take action to end the pandemic quickly and on our terms while saving as many lives as possible

OR 2. we wait until the pandemic ends by everybody who has the virus dying off, which will take longer if it's even possible.

I know which option I'd like for us to take

Option 2 is will not end the pandemic either.

[Neanderthaland]

"You mean, you expect me to wash my hands forever, and not just until the plague ends?! That's tyranny!!"

I do wash my hands. Dont make ridiculous comments like this.

But people didn't used to. They had to adopt the practice to deal with disease. And now everyone does. And it's just considered normal.

The fact that you wash your hands is proof that masks could become normal.

[San Lumen]

Of course, two options:

1. We take action to end the pandemic quickly and on our terms while saving as many lives as possible

OR 2. we wait until the pandemic ends by everybody who has the virus dying off, which will take longer if it's even possible.

I know which option I'd like for us to take

Option 2 is will not end the pandemic either.

Then what does?

[The Black Forrest]

You keep saying shit like this, but what's your point? If it was merely 80 years, that wouldn't be "forever" but it would still be way to fucking long. Especially if it's something we could have nipped in the bud early on, if only people like you hadn't made it impossible.

It won't be 80 years. If history is a guide the average is two years. The only pandemics that lasted longer were cholera and bubonic plague neither of which is airborne.

Polio was identified in oh I think 1908 by some Austrian dude?. The US didn't eliminate it til about 1979. Even then it still exists in the world....

How long will this one be? Unknown at this point. Resources that could be used to find better meds are being spent on the people to survive the lockdowns since 45 was such a moron for managing.

[Neanderthaland]

And it is precisely their reluctance that makes it more likely to be the case.

its not going to be the case. There is zero possibility when we are in our twilight years we are telling our grandkids about a time when we saw faces in public.

I surely hope not. But your gut feelings are worth exactly nothing in this debate. And that's all you have.

Your only arguments are lies and whining. I don't know why you bother.

[Picairn]

Yes

It is self-evident then, that some public health measures do become permanent in our daily lives.

[San Lumen]

It won't be 80 years. If history is a guide the average is two years. The only pandemics that lasted longer were cholera and bubonic plague neither of which is airborne.

Polio was identified in oh I think 1908 by some Austrian dude?. The US didn't eliminate it til about 1979. Even then it still exists in the world....

How long will this one be? Unknown at this point. Resources that could be used to find better meds are being spent on the people to survive the lockdowns since 45 was such a moron for managing.

There is a pill Pfizer is developing that should be out by the end of the year. There is also a cholesterol drug called Fenofibrate that is showing promise as a possible cure.

[San Lumen]

Yes

It is self-evident then, that some public health measures do become permanent in our daily lives.

what is not self evident is permanent mask mandates. There is zero possibility of that happening.

[Neanderthaland]

Polio was identified in oh I think 1908 by some Austrian dude?. The US didn't eliminate it til about 1979. Even then it still exists in the world....

How long will this one be? Unknown at this point. Resources that could be used to find better meds are being spent on the people to survive the lockdowns since 45 was such a moron for managing.

There is a pill Pfizer is developing that should be out by the end of the year. There is also a cholesterol drug called Fenofibrate that is showing promise as a possible cure.

You've jumped on every single "possible cure" that's been mentioned by the media since this started.

[Moscareinas]

Option 2 is will not end the pandemic either.

Then what does?

making sure that chances for vaccine-evading mutations are minimized, for obvious reasons

[The Black Forrest]

There is a pill Pfizer is developing that should be out by the end of the year. There is also a cholesterol drug called Fenofibrate that is showing promise as a possible cure.

You've jumped on every single "possible cure" that's been mentioned by the media since this started.

Indeed. There isn't going to be a cure; it may handle delta and it may not be good with lambda.

This does have to be regulated so "protecting our shareholders" doesn't become the guiding force and people end up taking drugs they don't need.....

[Moscareinas]

It is self-evident then, that some public health measures do become permanent in our daily lives.

what is not self evident is permanent mask mandates. There is zero possibility of that happening.

the japanese consider it good manners to wear masks outside when one has a cold

self-evident shit is largely a matter of perception, of taste

[Kannap]

Then what does?

making sure that chances for vaccine-evading mutations are minimized, for obvious reasons

Ah, but where's the fun in that? Maybe Lumen has a point, pretending the pandemic is over and playing Russian roulette with the variants sounds like fun

[The Alma Mater]

There was a viral pandemic in Earth's history that lasted for that long. It refutes your claim that it is impossible for their to be extremely long pandemics.

and what pandemic was that?

I distinctly remember several people telling you about this months ago. Do you ever read answers ?

[Xmara]

what is not self evident is permanent mask mandates. There is zero possibility of that happening.

the japanese consider it good manners to wear masks outside when one has a cold

self-evident shit is largely a matter of perception, of taste

It’s not mandated that every single person in Japan wear a mask when leaving the house though, which is what I think Lumen was getting at.

Not that I’m defending him. I think we’ve already established that his opinions don’t carry much weight in this thread.