Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[The Black Forrest]

It doesn't feel like it sometimes with the news of new variants and rising cases and reimposing of mask mandates and threat of new lockdowns. If vaccines aren't the endgame then our leaders should just come out and say it.

Vaccines never were the endgame. The endgame was always to see the end of this pandemic. If you don't understand that that's been the endgame this entire time, then that's your problem.

Indeed. They were supposed to reduce the strain on the medical system. We could direct medical resources for the cases were there are problems even with the vaccine..

I predict covid will join the annual "get your flu shot" cycle.

[Kannap]

Vaccines never were the endgame. The endgame was always to see the end of this pandemic. If you don't understand that that's been the endgame this entire time, then that's your problem.

and when does it end?

I don't think anybody knows the answer to that question because we've not gone about trying to end it. Your politicians and leaders have forfeited like you and are pretending everything is okay to benefit capital just like you've wanted them to all along. They're content to let people die rather than take action to bring an end to this pandemic.

I can't be arsed to go back to find my posts from old threads but I'm sure last year I said I thought it would be over by now - and it should be over by now - but clearly it's too much an inconvenience to bring it to an end, masks and lockdowns hurt some people's sensitivities.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Vaccines never were the endgame. The endgame was always to see the end of this pandemic. If you don't understand that that's been the endgame this entire time, then that's your problem.

and when does it end?

Probably never because people like you never wanted to do anything to make that happen. It's here, it's probably not going away, thanks for that.

[The Black Forrest]

and when does it end?

y'all ready for another year

Oh that's a given. 2022 is still going to be a covid year. Thank you maga!

[Kannap]

I predict covid will join the annual "get your flu shot" cycle.

Oh, for sure. But let's relegate it to that status after we've ended the pressing issue of a global ongoing pandemic.

[Dexterra]

I noticed something eerie and a bit sad about COVID: ever since it started (and especially since the delta variant hit my area), I have heard a lot more ambulance sirens, particularly near a retirement home near me

[The Reformed American Republic]

It doesn't feel like it sometimes with the news of new variants and rising cases and reimposing of mask mandates and threat of new lockdowns. If vaccines aren't the endgame then our leaders should just come out and say it.

Vaccines never were the endgame. The endgame was always to see the end of this pandemic. If you don't understand that that's been the endgame this entire time, then that's your problem.

I don't think we will ever see the end of this pandemic in our lifetimes. People are not getting vaccinated over petty politics and that won't change amongst other things. A family friend of mine just died today due to his politics, and his and others' deaths change nothing for the better, just like our burdened hospitals.

[San Lumen]

and when does it end?

I don't think anybody knows the answer to that question because we've not gone about trying to end it. Your politicians and leaders have forfeited like you and are pretending everything is okay to benefit capital just like you've wanted them to all along. They're content to let people die rather than take action to bring an end to this pandemic.

I can't be arsed to go back to find my posts from old threads but I'm sure last year I said I thought it would be over by now - and it should be over by now - but clearly it's too much an inconvenience to bring it to an end, masks and lockdowns hurt some people's sensitivities.

lockdowns at this point are untenable and anyone that did it might as well forfeit their next election, unemployment assistance has ended, there is no more business loans or stimulus package. If we have another lockdown countless business would close, homelessness would skyrocket and children would go hungry.

[San Lumen]

and when does it end?

Probably never because people like you never wanted to do anything to make that happen. It's here, it's probably not going away, thanks for that.

Eradication is impossible at this point. We have to learn to live with it at some point. Vaccines or not and that means no masks, canceled events or vaccination proof to do anything. I predict by this time next year the pandemic will have begun to be but a memory.

[Kannap]

I don't think anybody knows the answer to that question because we've not gone about trying to end it. Your politicians and leaders have forfeited like you and are pretending everything is okay to benefit capital just like you've wanted them to all along. They're content to let people die rather than take action to bring an end to this pandemic.

I can't be arsed to go back to find my posts from old threads but I'm sure last year I said I thought it would be over by now - and it should be over by now - but clearly it's too much an inconvenience to bring it to an end, masks and lockdowns hurt some people's sensitivities.

lockdowns at this point are untenable and anyone that did it might as well forfeit their next election

Do you believe somebody's ability to win office is more important than saving lives?

unemployment assistance has ended, there is no more business loans or stimulus package.

If only there were people in power who could put those things back in place, hmmmmm

If we have another lockdown

We never had a first lockdown, stop insisting on the notion of "another" one. Predicting you ask "what do you call last March?" I'm going to tell you now that I - and many others - have answered that question dozens of times and I won't be wasting my time answering it again. Do a search if you need to reread one of the old answers.

countless business would close, homelessness would skyrocket and children would go hungry.

[citation needed]

[Kannap]

Probably never because people like you never wanted to do anything to make that happen. It's here, it's probably not going away, thanks for that.

Eradication is impossible at this point. We have to learn to live with it at some point. Vaccines or not and that means no masks, canceled events or vaccination proof to do anything. I predict by this time next year the pandemic will have begun to be but a memory.

I surely hope the pandemic is over by then, but again that depends on us doing something to bring about its end.

[The Black Forrest]

Vaccines never were the endgame. The endgame was always to see the end of this pandemic. If you don't understand that that's been the endgame this entire time, then that's your problem.

I don't think we will ever see the end of this pandemic in our lifetimes. People are not getting vaccinated over petty politics and that won't change amongst other things. A family friend of mine just died today due to his politics, and his and others' deaths change nothing for the better, just like our burdened hospitals.

I haven't had that happen.......yet.

The politics are a problem. However, it looses it's power as a platform when enough people start to die. Especially now. The trump party is thinking "oh shit. The infections and death rates are mainly our voters?!?!?!?!?!......SHIT!"

There will always be the "freedom of death types" the rest will wake up.....and they are starting as more and more stories of the faithful dying or losing loved ones. The survivors are starting to say get the vaccine!

[San Lumen]

Vaccines never were the endgame. The endgame was always to see the end of this pandemic. If you don't understand that that's been the endgame this entire time, then that's your problem.

I don't think we will ever see the end of this pandemic in our lifetimes. People are not getting vaccinated over petty politics and that won't change amongst other things. A family friend of mine just died today due to his politics, and his and others' deaths change nothing for the better, just like our burdened hospitals.

Its not going to be the rest of our lives. We are not going to be having mandatory masks, cancelled events and lockdowns the rest of our days over one virus. It is not worth the economic, social and mental effects.

I am very sorry for your loss.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I don't think we will ever see the end of this pandemic in our lifetimes. People are not getting vaccinated over petty politics and that won't change amongst other things. A family friend of mine just died today due to his politics, and his and others' deaths change nothing for the better, just like our burdened hospitals.

I haven't had that happen.......yet.

The politics are a problem. However, it looses it's power as a platform when enough people start to die. Especially now. The trump party is thinking "oh shit. The infections and death rates are mainly our voters?!?!?!?!?!......SHIT!"

There will always be the "freedom of death types" the rest will wake up.....and they are starting as more and more stories of the faithful dying or losing loved ones. The survivors are starting to say get the vaccine!

I have spoken with many Republicans, and most are "freedom or death types." Many of them are outright anti-vaxx. Of course they get pissed when I call them that, but they cite outright anti-vaxx groups, so..

The rising sanity you're hoping for isn't coming, and it's just a bunch of politicians having a stopped clock moment only to get booed by their base. Hell, they even booed Trump for recommending vaccination.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Probably never because people like you never wanted to do anything to make that happen. It's here, it's probably not going away, thanks for that.

Eradication is impossible at this point. We have to learn to live with it at some point. Vaccines or not and that means no masks, canceled events or vaccination proof to do anything. I predict by this time next year the pandemic will have begun to be but a memory.

Yeah you said that last year too buddy. This shit isn't going anywhere, if you wanna go without a mask and die that's your choice I guess.

[Grave_n_idle]

You do understand that this virus started in one place, and is now global?

You might end-up okay, Turkey's immunized population doubled in the last month, and if the same trend continues, Turkey might manage herd immunity before the end of the year. Everyone around you might save you.

some experts are saying herd immunity is no longer possible.

That's not what they're saying. I take it you're (mis)quoting Hotez and Liddell?

No, let's be charitable - maybe you're talking about something else - give me a link, I'll check it out.

[The Black Forrest]

Probably never because people like you never wanted to do anything to make that happen. It's here, it's probably not going away, thanks for that.

Eradication is impossible at this point. We have to learn to live with it at some point. Vaccines or not and that means no masks, canceled events or vaccination proof to do anything. I predict by this time next year the pandemic will have begun to be but a memory.

This isn't small pox. Covid works in a different way. You can't eradicate it.....well that day might happen when we figure out how to eliminate the cold but that's another discussion.

We live with it when it's no longer a pandemic. We live with it when it's reduced to a bad flu. Masks and vaccine proofs will help in that effort. Unfortunately there are way too many selfish people for that to happen. If they are the norm? Well it will be oh 70 years before it's eradiated (if possible) like polio......

[The Black Forrest]

some experts are saying herd immunity is no longer possible.

That's not what they're saying. I take it you're (mis)quoting Hotez and Liddell?

No, let's be charitable - maybe you're talking about something else - give me a link, I'll check it out.

I was going to request the same. Linky please; I would like to review it.

[San Lumen]

Eradication is impossible at this point. We have to learn to live with it at some point. Vaccines or not and that means no masks, canceled events or vaccination proof to do anything. I predict by this time next year the pandemic will have begun to be but a memory.

Yeah you said that last year too buddy. This shit isn't going anywhere, if you wanna go without a mask and die that's your choice I guess.

What are you suggesting we permanently mandate masks? Im not wearing a mask the rest of my life and few others will either.

[The Reformed American Republic]

I don't think we will ever see the end of this pandemic in our lifetimes. People are not getting vaccinated over petty politics and that won't change amongst other things. A family friend of mine just died today due to his politics, and his and others' deaths change nothing for the better, just like our burdened hospitals.

Its not going to be the rest of our lives. We are not going to be having mandatory masks, cancelled events and lockdowns the rest of our days over one virus. It is not worth the economic, social and mental effects.

I am very sorry for your loss.

Thanks for your sympathy. As for the rest of the post, I question that.

Eradication is impossible at this point. We have to learn to live with it at some point. Vaccines or not and that means no masks, canceled events or vaccination proof to do anything. I predict by this time next year the pandemic will have begun to be but a memory.

Yeah you said that last year too buddy. This shit isn't going anywhere, if you wanna go without a mask and die that's your choice I guess.

If he is vaccinated he'd be alright for the most part, not that I'm defending his "it will be over soon" claims or the post in general.

[San Lumen]

Eradication is impossible at this point. We have to learn to live with it at some point. Vaccines or not and that means no masks, canceled events or vaccination proof to do anything. I predict by this time next year the pandemic will have begun to be but a memory.

This isn't small pox. Covid works in a different way. You can't eradicate it.....well that day might happen when we figure out how to eliminate the cold but that's another discussion.

We live with it when it's no longer a pandemic. We live with it when it's reduced to a bad flu. Masks and vaccine proofs will help in that effort. Unfortunately there are way too many selfish people for that to happen. If they are the norm? Well it will be oh 70 years before it's eradiated (if possible) like polio......

That will likely happen regardless. its biologically impossible for it to last forever.

[Neanderthaland]

Vaccines never were the endgame. The endgame was always to see the end of this pandemic. If you don't understand that that's been the endgame this entire time, then that's your problem.

and when does it end?

I don't think anyone fully knows, but it would definitely happen faster if you, and people like you, would stop doing everything in their power to make sure it never ends.

[The Reformed American Republic]

This isn't small pox. Covid works in a different way. You can't eradicate it.....well that day might happen when we figure out how to eliminate the cold but that's another discussion.

We live with it when it's no longer a pandemic. We live with it when it's reduced to a bad flu. Masks and vaccine proofs will help in that effort. Unfortunately there are way too many selfish people for that to happen. If they are the norm? Well it will be oh 70 years before it's eradiated (if possible) like polio......

That will likely happen regardless. its biologically impossible for it to last forever.

There was a pandemic that lasted for millions of years. Hell, a good chunk of the human genome is from extinct viruses.

[San Lumen]

and when does it end?

I don't think anyone fully knows, but it would definitely happen faster if you, and people like you, would stop doing everything in their power to make sure it never ends.

No pandemic is forever.

[Picairn]

That will likely happen regardless. its biologically impossible for it to last forever.

>Implying that mutations aren't happening, which is bullshit. There are already talks of a potential vaccine resistant variant. https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/08/27/ ... infections