Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[Stellar Colonies]

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[CoraSpia]

Who is the person who gets to draw this particular line? The government? A social media company? Random internet vigilantes? I don't deny that allowing all ideas, from 'drinking bleach will cure your covid in 3 minutes' to 'the gays want to corrupt your children' will lead to harm, but it's the only consistent view. Otherwise we're giving somebody or some organisation a lot of power regarding what people are allowed to talk about, and there is nobody who can be trusted to make those calls.

Why are you still dishonestly pretending you do not see the difference between controversial opinions and falsehoods ?
Or are you not dishonest but - to use your own words - "not rational" ?
In which case I once again urge you to selfreflect if you are the right person to moderate sites frequented by... easily confused people.

I believe I stated two things that, I would hope, we both agree are falsehoods. I don't see the difference because at the end of the day, it's speech and should be protected as such. The only limitations I would really draw on that front concerns total spam and timewasting, and things designed to threaten a named individual. The second should be enforced pretty narrowly however. Those are the only limitations that you can really place on speech if you claim to support freedom of speech, and even then it's pushing it.

[Antipatros]

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The longer the crisis goes on, demands on the government to take strong (or even draconian) action will increase. The fastest way to end the crisis is for everyone to get vaccinated. By refusing to do so, these "no new normal" types are actually shooting themselves in the foot. It's incredibly dumb and kinda pathetic.

[Ethel mermania]

The board died because the mob demanded it die.

Whether that demand is justified is a different question

It was more then that. Companies don’t always respond to “we don’t like this board”

As I understood it it was a mini revolt by many subs.

In cancel culture the mob rules. Sometimes the mob is right, Sometimes not.

This wasn't process this was a lyching.

[Ethel mermania]

ACLU

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The aclu has not been about civil rights for years now. So the double speak is not surprising

[The Black Forrest]

ACLU

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The aclu has not been about civil rights for years now. So the double speak is not surprising

Have they now. Examples?

[The Black Forrest]

It was more then that. Companies don’t always respond to “we don’t like this board”

As I understood it it was a mini revolt by many subs.

In cancel culture the mob rules. Sometimes the mob is right, Sometimes not.

This wasn't process this was a lyching.

That may be as the details are lacking.

Cora however hasn’t presented an argument to keep it.

[Antipatros]

It was more then that. Companies don’t always respond to “we don’t like this board”

As I understood it it was a mini revolt by many subs.

In cancel culture the mob rules. Sometimes the mob is right, Sometimes not.

This wasn't process this was a lyching.

Reddit is very much biased towards doing nothing and letting things ride. That is the easiest and cheapest option for them.

They tend to take these sorts of drastic actions when they start getting (deserved, IMO) negative media attention.

[Ethel mermania]

The aclu has not been about civil rights for years now. So the double speak is not surprising

Have they now. Examples?

When we were children Skokie Il. Aclu has said they would never defend it today.

[The Black Forrest]

Have they now. Examples?

When we were children Skokie Il. Aclu has said they would never defend it today.

Sorry now following. A vaccine mandate back then?

[Ethel mermania]

As I understood it it was a mini revolt by many subs.

In cancel culture the mob rules. Sometimes the mob is right, Sometimes not.

This wasn't process this was a lyching.

That may be as the details are lacking.

Cora however hasn’t presented an argument to keep it.

Sometimes the lynch mob is right.

My point is that is a different question and we should not confuse the two

[Antipatros]

When we were children Skokie Il. Aclu has said they would never defend it today.

Sorry now following. A vaccine mandate back then?

In 1978, the ACLU defended a neo-Nazi group who wanted to march through a neighborhood where lots of Holocaust survivors lived.

[The Temple of the Computer]

When we were children Skokie Il. Aclu has said they would never defend it today.

Sorry now following. A vaccine mandate back then?

No, it was a National Socialist Party that they defended.

[The Black Forrest]

Sorry now following. A vaccine mandate back then?

No, it was a National Socialist Party that they defended.

Sorry. Drawing a blank. Have a link?

[Antipatros]

No, it was a National Socialist Party that they defended.

Sorry. Drawing a blank. Have a link?

https://kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-0941-3.html

[The Black Forrest]

Sorry. Drawing a blank. Have a link?

https://kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-0941-3.html

Thanks. Still drawing a blank so I must have not heard about it or didn’t care at the time.

Still it’s on odd condemnation. The fact somebody said they wouldn’t do it today? Not really a damnation. If they stopped defending anything Nazi related….ok that works…..

Thanks again though!

[CoraSpia]

https://kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-0941-3.html

Thanks. Still drawing a blank so I must have not heard about it or didn’t care at the time.

Still it’s on odd condemnation. The fact somebody said they wouldn’t do it today? Not really a damnation. If they stopped defending anything Nazi related….ok that works…..

Thanks again though!

They're meant to be defenders of civil liberties, which I thought it was agreed everyone has.

They decided they were wrong when they defended the unite the right rally as well, which could have been a chance to show they had a consistent stance on freedom to protest issues.

[Kowani]

Thanks. Still drawing a blank so I must have not heard about it or didn’t care at the time.

Still it’s on odd condemnation. The fact somebody said they wouldn’t do it today? Not really a damnation. If they stopped defending anything Nazi related….ok that works…..

Thanks again though!

They're meant to be defenders of civil liberties, which I thought it was agreed everyone has.

They decided they were wrong when they defended the unite the right rally as well, which could have been a chance to show they had a consistent stance on freedom to protest issues.

the unite-the-right rally saw its participants purposely run a woman over with a car

[The Black Forrest]

Thanks. Still drawing a blank so I must have not heard about it or didn’t care at the time.

Still it’s on odd condemnation. The fact somebody said they wouldn’t do it today? Not really a damnation. If they stopped defending anything Nazi related….ok that works…..

Thanks again though!

They're meant to be defenders of civil liberties, which I thought it was agreed everyone has.

They decided they were wrong when they defended the unite the right rally as well, which could have been a chance to show they had a consistent stance on freedom to protest issues.

Considering this is a covid thread and we took a rather long tangent over the reddit nonsense; a proper thread would better serve the discussion.

[CoraSpia]

They're meant to be defenders of civil liberties, which I thought it was agreed everyone has.

They decided they were wrong when they defended the unite the right rally as well, which could have been a chance to show they had a consistent stance on freedom to protest issues.

Considering this is a covid thread and we took a rather long tangent over the reddit nonsense; a proper thread would better serve the discussion.

fair point

[Ethel mermania]

https://kansaspress.ku.edu/978-0-7006-0941-3.html

Thanks. Still drawing a blank so I must have not heard about it or didn’t care at the time.

Still it’s on odd condemnation. The fact somebody said they wouldn’t do it today? Not really a damnation. If they stopped defending anything Nazi related….ok that works…..

Thanks again though!

The point was the aclu is a misnomer. It did not use to be

[Azania-]

I just got vaccinated today. Granted, it's only my first and I still need to go back for my second one next month, but still!

[Kowani]

Oklahoma emergency rooms are full of people overdosing on ivermectin

A doctor in rural Oklahoma said the number of people overdosing on the deworming medication ivermectin was so high that emergency rooms were filled to the brim.

The situation is so dire that people with gunshot wounds have to wait their turn to get treatment, Dr. Jason McElyea, an ER physician affiliated with hospitals in Sallisaw, told KFOR, an NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City.

McElyea spoke to the channel this week about the dangers of overdosing on the version of ivermectin meant for use in livestock. He said the hospitals he worked at became overwhelmed after people started taking ivermectin, believing unverified claims that it's an effective COVID-19 treatment.

"The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated," McElyea said. He added: "All of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don't have any, that's it. If there's no ambulance to take the call, there's no ambulance to come to the call."

McElyea said many of his patients were familiar with the drug. "Growing up in a small town, rural area, we've all accidentally been exposed to ivermectin at some time. So, it's something people are familiar with," he said. "Because of those accidental sticks when trying to inoculate cattle, they're less afraid of it."

But McElyea said he'd seen people suffering from the ramifications of taking doses meant for a full-sized horse, including instances of vision loss, nausea, and vomiting.

"Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they'd caught COVID," he said.

[Deblar]

Oklahoma emergency rooms are full of people overdosing on ivermectin

A doctor in rural Oklahoma said the number of people overdosing on the deworming medication ivermectin was so high that emergency rooms were filled to the brim.

The situation is so dire that people with gunshot wounds have to wait their turn to get treatment, Dr. Jason McElyea, an ER physician affiliated with hospitals in Sallisaw, told KFOR, an NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City.

McElyea spoke to the channel this week about the dangers of overdosing on the version of ivermectin meant for use in livestock. He said the hospitals he worked at became overwhelmed after people started taking ivermectin, believing unverified claims that it's an effective COVID-19 treatment.

"The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated," McElyea said. He added: "All of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don't have any, that's it. If there's no ambulance to take the call, there's no ambulance to come to the call."

McElyea said many of his patients were familiar with the drug. "Growing up in a small town, rural area, we've all accidentally been exposed to ivermectin at some time. So, it's something people are familiar with," he said. "Because of those accidental sticks when trying to inoculate cattle, they're less afraid of it."

But McElyea said he'd seen people suffering from the ramifications of taking doses meant for a full-sized horse, including instances of vision loss, nausea, and vomiting.

"Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they'd caught COVID," he said.

Ahoy, Spongeboy me Bob. I have tested positive for COVID 19, and decided to try some homemade cures from the internet. They failed miserably and I will soon need life support.
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[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Oklahoma emergency rooms are full of people overdosing on ivermectin

A doctor in rural Oklahoma said the number of people overdosing on the deworming medication ivermectin was so high that emergency rooms were filled to the brim.

The situation is so dire that people with gunshot wounds have to wait their turn to get treatment, Dr. Jason McElyea, an ER physician affiliated with hospitals in Sallisaw, told KFOR, an NBC affiliate in Oklahoma City.

McElyea spoke to the channel this week about the dangers of overdosing on the version of ivermectin meant for use in livestock. He said the hospitals he worked at became overwhelmed after people started taking ivermectin, believing unverified claims that it's an effective COVID-19 treatment.

"The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated," McElyea said. He added: "All of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don't have any, that's it. If there's no ambulance to take the call, there's no ambulance to come to the call."

McElyea said many of his patients were familiar with the drug. "Growing up in a small town, rural area, we've all accidentally been exposed to ivermectin at some time. So, it's something people are familiar with," he said. "Because of those accidental sticks when trying to inoculate cattle, they're less afraid of it."

But McElyea said he'd seen people suffering from the ramifications of taking doses meant for a full-sized horse, including instances of vision loss, nausea, and vomiting.

"Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they'd caught COVID," he said.

Ahoy, Spongeboy me Bob. I have tested positive for COVID 19, and decided to try some homemade cures from the internet. They failed miserably and I will soon need life support.
Argargargargargargargargarg

I know I shouldn't laugh, but well done. I am.

I noticed that when it comes to medicines already in use for malaria treatment, often make their way into the popular sphere of ''treatment for CoVID19''. Hydroxychloroquine in 2020, now ivermectin...