Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[Seangoli]

Was it HydroC or was it because of all the other drugs they received as well?

I remember reading something about that in the fight over it.

Tbh, no idea, I just know what they both said.

It's worth noting the study consisted of a non-randomized population of just 255 people, on which nearly 80% died anyway. Some quick math, assuming even distribution between non-HCQ and HCQ population would give about 127 in each group. Of those that survived, we have about 50 people total, which would leave us with about 17 or so who survived without HCQ vs. 33 with it. So basically, it's another study looking at an extremely small non-randomized population with very low numbers. I haven't delved too deep into the actual numbers, just extrapolating based on the very basic numbers, but it's hardly definitive at that number of people.

Edit:. I read the article a bit further; 225 patients received HCQ, however they considered only those who received large doses of HCQ and zinc as having received the treatment. Basically, 37 patients received doses above 3 grams for HCQ and above 1 gram for zinc, and of these who did 40% survived. The remainder of this study group received less than 3 grams and 1 gram respectively, and had a 16.5% survival rate. This looks promising, however I again refer to the small populations involved.

[Salus Maior]

Gonna get my second shot of Pfizer tomorrow. Hopefully it's not too rough, don't really like seeing that there are a minority of men in my age group with heart inflammation afterwards. But hopefully that's unrelated.

[Drew Durrnil]

now that I have been fully vaccinated, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE THAT YOU GIVE ME CUDDLES.

[Samudera Darussalam]

now that I have been fully vaccinated, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE THAT YOU GIVE ME CUDDLES.

Are you sure about that? I've yet to get the shot lmao

Gonna get my second shot of Pfizer tomorrow. Hopefully it's not too rough, don't really like seeing that there are a minority of men in my age group with heart inflammation afterwards. But hopefully that's unrelated.

Good luck Salus

[The Black Forrest]

Tbh, no idea, I just know what they both said.

It's worth noting the study consisted of a non-randomized population of just 255 people, on which nearly 80% died anyway. Some quick math, assuming even distribution between non-HCQ and HCQ population would give about 127 in each group. Of those that survived, we have about 50 people total, which would leave us with about 17 or so who survived without HCQ vs. 33 with it. So basically, it's another study looking at an extremely small non-randomized population with very low numbers. I haven't delved too deep into the actual numbers, just extrapolating based on the very basic numbers, but it's hardly definitive at that number of people.

Edit:. I read the article a bit further; 225 patients received HCQ, however they considered only those who received large doses of HCQ and zinc as having received the treatment. Basically, 37 patients received doses above 3 grams for HCQ and above 1 gram for zinc, and of these who did 40% survived. The remainder of this study group received less than 3 grams and 1 gram respectively, and had a 16.5% survival rate. This looks promising, however I again refer to the small populations involved.

The article I read or news blip I saw had a doc talking and he said they didn’t see that much of a change in the survival rate. It was a small test and he even said it was not proof. It was just interesting and need a real test…..

[Loeje]

now that I have been fully vaccinated, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE THAT YOU GIVE ME CUDDLES.

How do you feel?

[Picairn]

SO i looked into the most current up to date research on Hydroxychloroquine and it looks like its junk. Im willing to suspend judgment due to our current emergency but Im also looking out if the science behind the solutions we're coming up with is solid and HydroxyC looks like a clear loser in that regard. Its a Malaria drug and thats not diminished, but as a treatment for covid? Not so much.

All meta-analyses I found say HCQ either provided no effect or even increased patients' mortality.

[North Washington Republic]

now that I have been fully vaccinated, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE THAT YOU GIVE ME CUDDLES.

Eh, how about a handshake instead? I’m not much of a hugger

[Kowani]

Mexico claims 1/4 of the population has been infected by covid

About a quarter of Mexico's 126 million people are estimated to have been infected with the coronavirus, the health ministry said on Friday, far more than the country's confirmed infections.

The 2020 National Health and Nutrition Survey (Ensanut) showed that about 31.1 million people have had the virus, the ministry said in a statement, citing Tonatiuh Barrientos, an official at the National Institute of Public Health. The estimate was given as the country recorded 3,282 new cases and 243 more fatalities, taking its total number of confirmed infections to 2,448,820 and the death toll to 229,823.

The government has said previously the real number of cases was likely to be significantly higher.

According to Barrientos, not all of the people in the survey's estimate necessarily showed symptoms. The survey was based on interviews with people at 13,910 households between Aug. 17 and Nov. 14 last year, and confirmed preliminary results released in December.

[Salandriagado]

Tbh, no idea, I just know what they both said.

So basically correlation with no evidence of causation.

Not even a correlation: it's a sample size of literally 2. Two people surviving isn't surprising: we'd expect far more than that to survive without such treatment.

[New Visayan Islands]

Data for PH as of June 12th, 1600 PHT/0400 EDT.

Detailed update. Also:

• Yikes.
• A longer interval doesn't hurt as badly as you might think.
• Again: not a good thing to find out on Independence Day.
• Get. Your. Coof. Shots.

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Is anyone else sick of people demanding adulation for their hyperneurotic pandemic behavior? "I'm going to wear a mask for the rest of my life." Go for it, I'm not going to congratulate you. "I haven't left my house for non-essential reasons since March 2020." It's your life but if you want to be sainted, take it up with the Vatican.

I mean really, it's not like I don't have neurotic tendencies of my own, I'm always saying to my wife "don't leave the laptop open on the arm of the couch, the cat is going to knock it over!", I have to make sure the stove is off at least 3 times before leaving the house but I'm not waiting for my neighbors to thank me for saving them from a fiery death. I recognize my neurotic behavior as disordered, I don't flaunt it as a morally superior lifestyle.

And in 50 years from now when 1000 kids drop dead every day from being in the same zip code as a peanut as a result of ultra-sterilization, I won't be seeking praise for not contributing to it.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Is anyone else sick of people demanding adulation for their hyperneurotic pandemic behavior? "I'm going to wear a mask for the rest of my life." Go for it, I'm not going to congratulate you. "I haven't left my house for non-essential reasons since March 2020." It's your life but if you want to be sainted, take it up with the Vatican.

I mean really, it's not like I don't have neurotic tendencies of my own, I'm always saying to my wife "don't leave the laptop open on the arm of the couch, the cat is going to knock it over!", I have to make sure the stove is off at least 3 times before leaving the house but I'm not waiting for my neighbors to thank me for saving them from a fiery death. I recognize my neurotic behavior as disordered, I don't flaunt it as a morally superior lifestyle.

And in 50 years from now when 1000 kids drop dead every day from being in the same zip code as a peanut as a result of ultra-sterilization, I won't be seeking praise for not contributing to it.

"I've been in my apartment for the whole pandemic and honestly I've kinda grown to like not seeing anyone." Yeah, because you're a fucking weirdo who should be kept away from everyone else anyhow. I'm sure that no one else wants to be around you either if you not only enjoyed lockdown but wish it would go on forever and deny other people a normal life. People who enjoyed lockdown and miss it are on the same level as people who think aliens are controlling their mind and only tinfoil can stop them. April 2020 was one of the top 10 worst months of my life and I would rather go on a three month vacation to the Syrian Civil War than go back to being trapped in my house unable to see my friends and out of work while corpses pile up in the cities.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Gonna get my second shot of Pfizer tomorrow. Hopefully it's not too rough, don't really like seeing that there are a minority of men in my age group with heart inflammation afterwards. But hopefully that's unrelated.

Soon you shall have the power of


M A G N E T O

[Ifreann]

Is anyone else sick of people demanding adulation for their hyperneurotic pandemic behavior? "I'm going to wear a mask for the rest of my life." Go for it, I'm not going to congratulate you. "I haven't left my house for non-essential reasons since March 2020." It's your life but if you want to be sainted, take it up with the Vatican.

I mean really, it's not like I don't have neurotic tendencies of my own, I'm always saying to my wife "don't leave the laptop open on the arm of the couch, the cat is going to knock it over!", I have to make sure the stove is off at least 3 times before leaving the house but I'm not waiting for my neighbors to thank me for saving them from a fiery death. I recognize my neurotic behavior as disordered, I don't flaunt it as a morally superior lifestyle.

And in 50 years from now when 1000 kids drop dead every day from being in the same zip code as a peanut as a result of ultra-sterilization, I won't be seeking praise for not contributing to it.

"I've been in my apartment for the whole pandemic and honestly I've kinda grown to like not seeing anyone." Yeah, because you're a fucking weirdo who should be kept away from everyone else anyhow. I'm sure that no one else wants to be around you either if you not only enjoyed lockdown but wish it would go on forever and deny other people a normal life. People who enjoyed lockdown and miss it are on the same level as people who think aliens are controlling their mind and only tinfoil can stop them. April 2020 was one of the top 10 worst months of my life and I would rather go on a three month vacation to the Syrian Civil War than go back to being trapped in my house unable to see my friends and out of work while corpses pile up in the cities.

Can't believe there are people out there who've found that they appreciate spending time alone. How awful of them. How inconsiderate of them to have had this personal realisation. Don't they realise that you had a different experience than them? The nerve. There ought to be a law against it, imprison every last one of them.

[The Black Forrest]

Are you trying to be as dishonest as possible? When you draw a false equivalency between Trump supporters and people who understand science, and then talk about the media demonizing said man's supporters, you don't do a good job proving you're anti Trump. Not that I would expect much better from you. Bad faith arguments are all you seem to be able to do.

And idk why you're laughing. I mean you're the one here who was too lazy to actually take the time to understand what I said and claimed I said the virus only targets people who don't wear masks. The virus doesn't TARGET anyone, anymore than poisonous fumes in a volcanic vent target people who don't wear masks. What's wrong with me? What's wrong with you, can you read or did you just decide it was too much work and not even bother. Let me know when you finally decide to actually try and understand the argument or when you finally admit that you don't know very much about covid, yet act like you know more than epidemiologists. My point stands that covid spreads far easier when people don't take precautions, and the only way you've responded to anyone here who has said as much is to throw around vitriol. Why? Cause you can't back your argument up. Your argument is stupid as hell and falls apart like a house of cards upon the slightest rebuttal. Why don't you just quit while you're behind and stop saying foolish shit on here eh?

"The Left" is lost. i weep for the future of Socialism.

When I inject bleach to fight covid; is it an arm shot or will the butt work?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

"I've been in my apartment for the whole pandemic and honestly I've kinda grown to like not seeing anyone." Yeah, because you're a fucking weirdo who should be kept away from everyone else anyhow. I'm sure that no one else wants to be around you either if you not only enjoyed lockdown but wish it would go on forever and deny other people a normal life. People who enjoyed lockdown and miss it are on the same level as people who think aliens are controlling their mind and only tinfoil can stop them. April 2020 was one of the top 10 worst months of my life and I would rather go on a three month vacation to the Syrian Civil War than go back to being trapped in my house unable to see my friends and out of work while corpses pile up in the cities.

Can't believe there are people out there who've found that they appreciate spending time alone. How awful of them. How inconsiderate of them to have had this personal realisation. Don't they realise that you had a different experience than them? The nerve. There ought to be a law against it, imprison every last one of them.

More like I can't believe there are people who say things like "I wish lockdown could go on for a while longer tbh." It's okay to enjoy being at home but tbh, it's weird when someone ONLY wants to be at home and nowhere else.

[The Black Forrest]

Can't believe there are people out there who've found that they appreciate spending time alone. How awful of them. How inconsiderate of them to have had this personal realisation. Don't they realise that you had a different experience than them? The nerve. There ought to be a law against it, imprison every last one of them.

More like I can't believe there are people who say things like "I wish lockdown could go on for a while longer tbh." It's okay to enjoy being at home but tbh, it's weird when someone ONLY wants to be at home and nowhere else.

Oh I kind of do. I liked the roads not being clogged.

[Xmara]

Is anyone else sick of people demanding adulation for their hyperneurotic pandemic behavior? "I'm going to wear a mask for the rest of my life." Go for it, I'm not going to congratulate you. "I haven't left my house for non-essential reasons since March 2020." It's your life but if you want to be sainted, take it up with the Vatican.

I mean really, it's not like I don't have neurotic tendencies of my own, I'm always saying to my wife "don't leave the laptop open on the arm of the couch, the cat is going to knock it over!", I have to make sure the stove is off at least 3 times before leaving the house but I'm not waiting for my neighbors to thank me for saving them from a fiery death. I recognize my neurotic behavior as disordered, I don't flaunt it as a morally superior lifestyle.

And in 50 years from now when 1000 kids drop dead every day from being in the same zip code as a peanut as a result of ultra-sterilization, I won't be seeking praise for not contributing to it.

I haven’t seen very many of them, but I can’t help but roll my eyes when I see posts like that. It’s important to take precautions. Get vaccinated, or wear a mask until you are fully vaccinated. But don’t act like you’re morally superior just because you plan to wear a mask for the rest of your life or you plan to basically live out the rest of your days as a hermit.

And don’t shame us for choosing to rejoin society once we’re fully vaccinated. I’m not a sociopath just because I don’t douse myself in hand sanitizer after shaking someone’s hand.

[Xmara]

now that I have been fully vaccinated, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE THAT YOU GIVE ME CUDDLES.

Here you go!

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

now that I have been fully vaccinated, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE THAT YOU GIVE ME CUDDLES.

How about I touch you with a shorter stick? Is that good?

[Nazi Flower Power]

More like I can't believe there are people who say things like "I wish lockdown could go on for a while longer tbh." It's okay to enjoy being at home but tbh, it's weird when someone ONLY wants to be at home and nowhere else.

Oh I kind of do. I liked the roads not being clogged.

Yeah, I liked the lighter traffic.

I don't like masks, though. I'm happy to be vaccinated and ditch the masks.

[Kowani]

Felix Tshisekedi, president of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, says the hospitals of Kinshasa are being overwhelmed by covid

Hospitals in Democratic Republic of Congo's capital Kinshasa are "overwhelmed" by a rise in COVID-19 infections, President Felix Tshisekedi said on Saturday, as the country was hit by a third wave of the disease. Like many African countries, Congo has officially registered relatively few cases. But the virus has killed a number of prominent politicians, and low vaccination rates have left the country vulnerable to more contagious variants. Health officials recorded 254 confirmed COVID-19 cases on Friday, one of the highest daily totals since the pandemic began. In all, Congo has registered 35,000 cases and 830 deaths.

"I am going to take drastic measures to deal with this upsurge of the disease. We're talking about the Indian variant in particular," Tshisekedi told reporters, referring to the Delta variant, which was first discovered in India and is highly infectious.

He did not specify what measures he planned to take.

Congo delayed its vaccination campaign by more than a month because of concerns about very rare side effects from the AstraZeneca shot. Since the campaign finally started on April 19, fewer than 30,000 doses have been administered.

"You know very well that the AstraZeneca vaccine has been and continues to be problematic, both in terms of side effects but also in terms of trust with the population," Tshisekedi said.

International drug regulators have said the benefits of using vaccines developed by AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson outweigh risks as they investigate reports of extremely rare, but potentially fatal blood clots.

Experts say that in Congo, scarce testing means cases and deaths are likely to be heavily understated by official numbers. They also say hospitals are ill-equipped to deal with a fresh wave of the virus.

"There is a big problem with (the supply of) oxygen in Kinshasa," said Pascal Lutumba from the tropical medicine department at the University of Kinshasa.

"In Kinshasa, they don’t care about COVID-19, they don’t believe in it, that’s the big issue," he said, referring to the city's population.

[Xmara]

Oh I kind of do. I liked the roads not being clogged.

Yeah, I liked the lighter traffic.

I don't like masks, though. I'm happy to be vaccinated and ditch the masks.

I agree with ditching the masks

[Fartsniffage]

Yeah, I liked the lighter traffic.

I don't like masks, though. I'm happy to be vaccinated and ditch the masks.

I agree with ditching the masks

I like the masks. Most people are ugly.