Coronavirus Thread VI: Are We Nearly There Yet? (READ OP)

[Xmara]

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/553773-fauci-vaccinated-people-become-dead-ends-for-the-coronavirus

Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus

Nice!

[The Free Joy State]

It was weird and unpleasant to have to give myself the CoVID swab test. The first time I had one, it was done by a lab tech last year. My nose isn’t happy.

Oh, I had to do that once.

I've had five COVID tests in the past fourteen months... three by nurses, one by test site personnel and once at home by myself. So, I sympathise.

It’s time to get back to living. Zero Covid is an impossible goal. There is a degree of risk In everyday life and things and society shouldn’t be restructured over one virus.

Although, masks during flu season seems like something we should start doing. The most minor of inconveniences and it will save lives from both flu and covid every year.

And the increased handwashing and sanitiser stations in stores should always have been a thing and certainly should remain.

I agree, these would all be excellent measured to maintain.

Also, not cramming restaurant tables back together like sardines in a can, and maintaining the increased disinfection of businesses.

It's time to get off the train to doomtown yall, at least with covid. This isn't the doomsday virus, we have vaccines, and being a doomer and assuming covid is just gonna beat all odds like it's rocky balboa and vaccines won't stop it and make society safe is as unrealistic as trump saying it's the flu.

The fuck are you talking about, "train to doomtown"? There is no implication of "therefore we are doomed" in pointing out that vaccines are not a perfect miracle technology, or in suggesting that we not rush desperately to disregard the health of those around us.

Agreed. A slow and steady, cautious approach is needed.

[Vetalia]

Has IMPENDING DOOM as Walensky cried about happened yet?

I dined indoors without a mask at an Indian restaurant at every point of the process. I estimate I killed 3,000 grandmas.

[Neanderthaland]

Has IMPENDING DOOM happened yet?

I honestly can't imagine what the appeal of smugly sneering at people dying is, but like a dog returning to vomit, you sure seem to come back to it often enough.

[Picairn]

*Sigh* Not this bullshit again...

[Nakena]

Has IMPENDING DOOM as Walensky cried about happened yet?

I dined indoors without a mask at an Indian restaurant at every point of the process. I estimate I killed 3,000 grandmas.

No. The situation is improving every day. It has been a hard times but good ones are coming. Stay calm, don't let your frustration get the better of you.

[USS Monitor]

Something feels very sus about the CDC lifting all these mask mandates when only like half of Americans are vaccinated and offering little guidance as to how this works. I also notice that upon being questioned about breakthrough cases that ended in casualties, the CDC claimed we don't know if covid killed them or if something else did, which is awfully similar to a talking point used among Trump supporters and the former president last year when confronted with the hundreds of thousands of deaths nationwide, a talking point he was criticized for by liberal media pundits. Idk who I'm supposed to trust. Because I also remember them saying covid herd immunity could only be achieved when between 70 and 90% of Americans are vaccinated but then they say the vaccines are dramatically lowering cases nationwide despite it being like half of people at best who have been vaccinated with any dose at all. I just feel like someone isn't being totally honest with us.

Herd immunity isn't a binary "you have it or you don't." It's more of a sliding scale.

For example, when we get measles outbreaks because there are too many antivaxxers, those outbreaks have limited reach because most of the US is vaccinated. There are enough unvaccinated people for sporadic outbreaks, but there are not enough for it to escalate into a global pandemic. Before the invention of a vaccine, measles was everywhere.

[Vetalia]

Has IMPENDING DOOM as Walensky cried about happened yet?

I dined indoors without a mask at an Indian restaurant at every point of the process. I estimate I killed 3,000 grandmas.

No. The situation is improving every day. It has been a hard times but good ones are coming. Stay calm, don't let your frustration get the better of you.

lol, the only reason the "situation is improving" is because dipshit Fauci and the rest of the COVID clowns couldn't find out a way to explain away Texas, Florida and the rest of the Free States.

[Rusozak]

Something feels very sus about the CDC lifting all these mask mandates when only like half of Americans are vaccinated and offering little guidance as to how this works. I also notice that upon being questioned about breakthrough cases that ended in casualties, the CDC claimed we don't know if covid killed them or if something else did, which is awfully similar to a talking point used among Trump supporters and the former president last year when confronted with the hundreds of thousands of deaths nationwide, a talking point he was criticized for by liberal media pundits. Idk who I'm supposed to trust. Because I also remember them saying covid herd immunity could only be achieved when between 70 and 90% of Americans are vaccinated but then they say the vaccines are dramatically lowering cases nationwide despite it being like half of people at best who have been vaccinated with any dose at all. I just feel like someone isn't being totally honest with us.

Herd immunity isn't a binary "you have it or you don't." It's more of a sliding scale.

For example, when we get measles outbreaks because there are too many antivaxxers, those outbreaks have limited reach because most of the US is vaccinated. There are enough unvaccinated people for sporadic outbreaks, but there are not enough for it to escalate into a global pandemic. Before the invention of a vaccine, measles was everywhere.

I think the biggest concern is the antivaxxers being a breeding ground for mutated strains, possibly vaccine-resistant ones, since Covid has shown itself to be very mutable.

[The Rich Port]

Herd immunity isn't a binary "you have it or you don't." It's more of a sliding scale.

For example, when we get measles outbreaks because there are too many antivaxxers, those outbreaks have limited reach because most of the US is vaccinated. There are enough unvaccinated people for sporadic outbreaks, but there are not enough for it to escalate into a global pandemic. Before the invention of a vaccine, measles was everywhere.

I think the biggest concern is the antivaxxers being a breeding ground for mutated strains, possibly vaccine-resistant ones, since Covid has shown itself to be very mutable.

As well as they should be considering there's a variant going around India right now.

[The Free Joy State]

Something feels very sus about the CDC lifting all these mask mandates when only like half of Americans are vaccinated and offering little guidance as to how this works. I also notice that upon being questioned about breakthrough cases that ended in casualties, the CDC claimed we don't know if covid killed them or if something else did, which is awfully similar to a talking point used among Trump supporters and the former president last year when confronted with the hundreds of thousands of deaths nationwide, a talking point he was criticized for by liberal media pundits. Idk who I'm supposed to trust. Because I also remember them saying covid herd immunity could only be achieved when between 70 and 90% of Americans are vaccinated but then they say the vaccines are dramatically lowering cases nationwide despite it being like half of people at best who have been vaccinated with any dose at all. I just feel like someone isn't being totally honest with us.

Herd immunity isn't a binary "you have it or you don't." It's more of a sliding scale.

For example, when we get measles outbreaks because there are too many antivaxxers, those outbreaks have limited reach because most of the US is vaccinated. There are enough unvaccinated people for sporadic outbreaks, but there are not enough for it to escalate into a global pandemic. Before the invention of a vaccine, measles was everywhere.

Although, I posted a link earlier in the thread, Measles also impacts pockets of immunocompromised people around the anti-vaxxers, which is why having as many people vaccinated as possible is really essential.

I agree that COVID will -- with time -- probably reach the status of Measles. But that still isn't a good thing, as Measles can still be a killer.

Herd immunity isn't a binary "you have it or you don't." It's more of a sliding scale.

For example, when we get measles outbreaks because there are too many antivaxxers, those outbreaks have limited reach because most of the US is vaccinated. There are enough unvaccinated people for sporadic outbreaks, but there are not enough for it to escalate into a global pandemic. Before the invention of a vaccine, measles was everywhere.

I think the biggest concern is the antivaxxers being a breeding ground for mutated strains, possibly vaccine-resistant ones, since Covid has shown itself to be very mutable.

This is why, IMO, any opening up should be very slow -- allowing time for the new variants and the vaccines' efficacy with relation to them to be fully explored.

[Xmara]

I think the biggest concern is the antivaxxers being a breeding ground for mutated strains, possibly vaccine-resistant ones, since Covid has shown itself to be very mutable.

As well as they should be considering there's a variant going around India right now.

But the vaccines we have can easily be modified to combat those strains iirc

[USS Monitor]

Herd immunity isn't a binary "you have it or you don't." It's more of a sliding scale.

For example, when we get measles outbreaks because there are too many antivaxxers, those outbreaks have limited reach because most of the US is vaccinated. There are enough unvaccinated people for sporadic outbreaks, but there are not enough for it to escalate into a global pandemic. Before the invention of a vaccine, measles was everywhere.

I think the biggest concern is the antivaxxers being a breeding ground for mutated strains, possibly vaccine-resistant ones, since Covid has shown itself to be very mutable.

I'd actually be more concerned about new zoonotic coronaviruses. We've had SARS, MERS, and COVID in a short timeframe, so what else is out there? Or what if MERS mutated to spread more easily among humans?

[Xmara]

No. The situation is improving every day. It has been a hard times but good ones are coming. Stay calm, don't let your frustration get the better of you.

lol, the only reason the "situation is improving" is because dipshit Fauci and the rest of the COVID clowns couldn't find out a way to explain away Texas, Florida and the rest of the Free States.

And then we have people like you, who have willfully been ignoring everything going on.

Look, the main reason we’ve not seen “impending doom” is because people are getting vaccinated and unvaccinated people are (hopefully) continuing to wear masks. Unfortunately that doesn’t appear to be all of them…

So quit your gloating and either get vaccinated or put your mask back on because we’re too close to nipping this thing in the bud only for you to set us back

[The Free Joy State]

As well as they should be considering there's a variant going around India right now.

But the vaccines we have can easily be modified to combat those strains iirc

It is possible to modify vaccines, but there would probably still have to be trials as for any new COVID vaccine to include the variant (as the vaccine itself is fairly new). So that could conceivably slow the process.

I know Moderna has started the process (and others most likely have by this point; the article is old), but I still think it advisable to be cautious for awhile longer.

[Xmara]

But the vaccines we have can easily be modified to combat those strains iirc

It is possible to modify vaccines, but there would probably still have to be trials as for any new COVID vaccine to include the variant (as the vaccine itself is fairly new). So that could conceivably slow the process.

True, but prayerfully it won’t happen. All we can do is hope we don’t have to worry about vaccine resistant variants anytime soon.

I’ve been trying to stay optimistic. When I get pessimistic, it’s hard to reverse the doom spiral I go down.

[North Washington Republic]

No. The situation is improving every day. It has been a hard times but good ones are coming. Stay calm, don't let your frustration get the better of you.

lol, the only reason the "situation is improving" is because dipshit Fauci and the rest of the COVID clowns couldn't find out a way to explain away Texas, Florida and the rest of the Free States.

Oh, and what qualifications do you have in medicine?

[North Washington Republic]

Something feels very sus about the CDC lifting all these mask mandates when only like half of Americans are vaccinated and offering little guidance as to how this works. I also notice that upon being questioned about breakthrough cases that ended in casualties, the CDC claimed we don't know if covid killed them or if something else did, which is awfully similar to a talking point used among Trump supporters and the former president last year when confronted with the hundreds of thousands of deaths nationwide, a talking point he was criticized for by liberal media pundits. Idk who I'm supposed to trust. Because I also remember them saying covid herd immunity could only be achieved when between 70 and 90% of Americans are vaccinated but then they say the vaccines are dramatically lowering cases nationwide despite it being like half of people at best who have been vaccinated with any dose at all. I just feel like someone isn't being totally honest with us.

Please don’t compare Trump and the fine people a the CDC. We have to remember, that we have a new President that is interested in listening to the scientists. If you want to blame someone, blame the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

[Albrenia]

No. The situation is improving every day. It has been a hard times but good ones are coming. Stay calm, don't let your frustration get the better of you.

lol, the only reason the "situation is improving" is because dipshit Fauci and the rest of the COVID clowns couldn't find out a way to explain away Texas, Florida and the rest of the Free States.

...What?

How does that even begin to make sense?

[North Washington Republic]

lol, the only reason the "situation is improving" is because dipshit Fauci and the rest of the COVID clowns couldn't find out a way to explain away Texas, Florida and the rest of the Free States.

...What?

How does that even begin to make sense?

He is one of those “Scandemic” folks.

[The Black Forrest]

No. The situation is improving every day. It has been a hard times but good ones are coming. Stay calm, don't let your frustration get the better of you.

lol, the only reason the "situation is improving" is because dipshit Fauci and the rest of the COVID clowns couldn't find out a way to explain away Texas, Florida and the rest of the Free States.

Don’t be daft. Can you explain it? I wouldn’t be hanging the “Mission Accomplished” banner yet.

[Torisakia]

Has IMPENDING DOOM as Walensky cried about happened yet?

I dined indoors without a mask at an Indian restaurant at every point of the process. I estimate I killed 3,000 grandmas.

No, but give it time and there’s a possibility it might. I personally believe that the worst has yet to come, to be honest.

[Esalia]

lol, the only reason the "situation is improving" is because dipshit Fauci and the rest of the COVID clowns couldn't find out a way to explain away Texas, Florida and the rest of the Free States.

...What?

How does that even begin to make sense?

Has any of Vetalia's claims ever made sense?

May I remind you this is the same person who took a handful of TikTok videos of nurses dancing in hospitals and took it as definitive proof that there was no crisis with COVID.

There's no "sense" here. There's "I will use any conspiracy no matter how illogical to pretend COVID away".

[The Huskar Social Union]

lol, the only reason the "situation is improving" is because dipshit Fauci and the rest of the COVID clowns couldn't find out a way to explain away Texas, Florida and the rest of the Free States.

...What?

How does that even begin to make sense?

It doesnt.

The only reason Vetalia comes here to this thread is to spread lies and misinformation about COVID. They have been doing it for months and even bragged about burning the singular surgical mask they had been wearing for months.

He also thinks Hospitals were not overworked because of some dancing videos on tiktok because medical workers are not allowed any relief or respite at all or else they are lying about everything.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Has IMPENDING DOOM as Walensky cried about happened yet?

I dined indoors without a mask at an Indian restaurant at every point of the process. I estimate I killed 3,000 grandmas.

I reiterate my last comment to you.

Go act this way to a family who lost someone to covid and see how long you last.