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Have you been vaccinated?

YES, I have been fully vaccinated (the Janssen vaccine or both doses of any other vaccine)
54
13%
YES, BUT I have only received the first of two doses
60
14%
NO, BUT I will get the vaccine when I am offered a date to get it
201
47%
NO, AND I CAN'T
42
10%
NO, AND I DON'T WANT TO
67
16%
 
Total votes : 424

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:59 am

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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:53 am



Maybe economic sanctions etc and economic blockade should be considered if he doesnt takes steps to fix his shit. If he starts loosing real money he'll stop being a moron.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:55 am

Both kids got their first pfizer shot yesterday, boy #2 reports a very sore arm. Boy #1, no side effects yet
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:07 am

GFDI...here's hoping the mayor of my city does the right thing and gets Moderna.

Yes, I have preregistered roughly 3 weeks ago. No, I'm not sure when we'll get our shots, but I suspect it'll be late in the year.

And I realize that J&J is possibly in the opening.
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Postby Xmara » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:00 am

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Xmara wrote:Have any US states gone into lockdown? If not, I wonder how long until it happens since Ontario is doing lockdown.


With the current 3rd wave ongoing in the US, it could happen any time. Whether Americans actually comply will be another matter entirely. I doubt many will accept another lockdown so, if you're going to disregard gov't guidelines, at least fucking wear a mask, social distance and for the love of fuck, get vaccinated ASAP. (that ''you'' isn't aimed at you personally, Xmara <3.)

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:24 am


I swear if Bolso turns this into a Flu 1919 scenario...

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Postby Kannap » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:36 pm



Misread that as "only 4 U.S. adults now fully vaccinated" the first time. Very different sentence.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:21 pm

Kannap wrote:


Misread that as "only 4 U.S. adults now fully vaccinated" the first time. Very different sentence.


We all make mistakes. lol
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Postby North Washington Republic » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:25 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

I swear if Bolso turns this into a Flu 1919 scenario...


I saw another user suggesting that Jair will only start to take this seriously if we start placing sanctions. It’s getting to the point where I think that may be necessary.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:29 pm

Israel's largest hospital claims the country has reched herd immunity

Israel may have reached herd immunity against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, say experts from its largest hospital, Sheba Medical Center.

Herd immunity happens when a sufficient percentage of a population has immunity – through vaccination or having recovered from the disease — and gives indirect protection to those who aren’t immune. The immunity level needed for herd immunity is calculated based on the transmission rate of the virus. For SARS-CoV-2 it’s estimated at 65-70 percent, says Dr. Eyal Leshem, director of Sheba’s Institute for Travel & Tropical Medicine.

Approximately 56% of Israel’s 9.2 million citizens are vaccinated and another 15% (approximately 700,000 people) recovered from Covid-19, putting Israel comfortably in the expected herd immunity range.

“We’re seeing a decline in the number of cases now despite the return to mass gatherings and schools following the third lockdown, because most of the people the infected person will meet are immune by now,” Leshem tells ISRAEL21c.

“Compared with the last two lockdowns, after which we saw an increase in cases, we see a decline even after lockdown.”

Could emerging variants of the virus affect Israel’s presumed herd immunity?

“We don’t know yet,” Leshem says. “From what we know, the Pfizer vaccine is quite effective against different variants in prevention of disease and prevention of infection, though it may be slightly less effective against the South African variant, at least in the lab.”[...[ He says that resuming travel with precautions is “a reasonable risk-benefit balance, provided people are vaccinated or get tested before and after travel and maintain quarantine.”

Leshem says the real challenge is children and adults who are unvaccinated. The vaccine has only been given to people 16 and older. Vaccinations in the 12- to 15 age range are to begin in a few months in Israel, following Pfizer clinical studies in that population.

“There are no magic tricks here,” says Leshem. “If unvaccinated people travel without full quarantine and testing, we will increase the risk of reintroducing the disease to Israel.”
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Postby Psycho Peoples » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:31 pm

Why are we still living in fear of this fake virus?

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Postby Picairn » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:33 pm

Psycho Peoples wrote:Why are we still living in fear of this fake virus?

About 3 million people in the world died from this "fake" virus.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:35 pm

Kowani wrote:Israel's largest hospital claims the country has reched herd immunity

Israel may have reached herd immunity against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, say experts from its largest hospital, Sheba Medical Center.

Herd immunity happens when a sufficient percentage of a population has immunity – through vaccination or having recovered from the disease — and gives indirect protection to those who aren’t immune. The immunity level needed for herd immunity is calculated based on the transmission rate of the virus. For SARS-CoV-2 it’s estimated at 65-70 percent, says Dr. Eyal Leshem, director of Sheba’s Institute for Travel & Tropical Medicine.

Approximately 56% of Israel’s 9.2 million citizens are vaccinated and another 15% (approximately 700,000 people) recovered from Covid-19, putting Israel comfortably in the expected herd immunity range.

“We’re seeing a decline in the number of cases now despite the return to mass gatherings and schools following the third lockdown, because most of the people the infected person will meet are immune by now,” Leshem tells ISRAEL21c.

“Compared with the last two lockdowns, after which we saw an increase in cases, we see a decline even after lockdown.”

Could emerging variants of the virus affect Israel’s presumed herd immunity?

“We don’t know yet,” Leshem says. “From what we know, the Pfizer vaccine is quite effective against different variants in prevention of disease and prevention of infection, though it may be slightly less effective against the South African variant, at least in the lab.”[...[ He says that resuming travel with precautions is “a reasonable risk-benefit balance, provided people are vaccinated or get tested before and after travel and maintain quarantine.”

Leshem says the real challenge is children and adults who are unvaccinated. The vaccine has only been given to people 16 and older. Vaccinations in the 12- to 15 age range are to begin in a few months in Israel, following Pfizer clinical studies in that population.

“There are no magic tricks here,” says Leshem. “If unvaccinated people travel without full quarantine and testing, we will increase the risk of reintroducing the disease to Israel.”

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Postby Zurkir » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:37 pm

Psycho Peoples wrote:Why are we still living in fear of this fake virus?


......

Ugh.
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Postby Psycho Peoples » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:38 pm

Zurkir wrote:
Psycho Peoples wrote:Why are we still living in fear of this fake virus?


......

Ugh.

99% survival rate and exaggerated numbers.

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Postby The 189 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:39 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Kowani wrote:Israel's largest hospital claims the country has reched herd immunity

Israel may have reached herd immunity against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, say experts from its largest hospital, Sheba Medical Center.

Herd immunity happens when a sufficient percentage of a population has immunity – through vaccination or having recovered from the disease — and gives indirect protection to those who aren’t immune. The immunity level needed for herd immunity is calculated based on the transmission rate of the virus. For SARS-CoV-2 it’s estimated at 65-70 percent, says Dr. Eyal Leshem, director of Sheba’s Institute for Travel & Tropical Medicine.

Approximately 56% of Israel’s 9.2 million citizens are vaccinated and another 15% (approximately 700,000 people) recovered from Covid-19, putting Israel comfortably in the expected herd immunity range.

“We’re seeing a decline in the number of cases now despite the return to mass gatherings and schools following the third lockdown, because most of the people the infected person will meet are immune by now,” Leshem tells ISRAEL21c.

“Compared with the last two lockdowns, after which we saw an increase in cases, we see a decline even after lockdown.”

Could emerging variants of the virus affect Israel’s presumed herd immunity?

“We don’t know yet,” Leshem says. “From what we know, the Pfizer vaccine is quite effective against different variants in prevention of disease and prevention of infection, though it may be slightly less effective against the South African variant, at least in the lab.”[...[ He says that resuming travel with precautions is “a reasonable risk-benefit balance, provided people are vaccinated or get tested before and after travel and maintain quarantine.”

Leshem says the real challenge is children and adults who are unvaccinated. The vaccine has only been given to people 16 and older. Vaccinations in the 12- to 15 age range are to begin in a few months in Israel, following Pfizer clinical studies in that population.

“There are no magic tricks here,” says Leshem. “If unvaccinated people travel without full quarantine and testing, we will increase the risk of reintroducing the disease to Israel.”

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Postby Kowani » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:42 pm

Psycho Peoples wrote:
Zurkir wrote:
......

Ugh.

99% survival rate and exaggerated numbers.

Kowani wrote:World passes 3 million coronavirus deaths

According to a Reuters tally, it took more than a year for the global coronavirus death toll to reach 2 million. The next 1 million deaths were added in about three months.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:48 pm

Psycho Peoples wrote:
Zurkir wrote:
......

Ugh.

99% survival rate and exaggerated numbers.


A 99% survival rate means 1 in 100 people who contract it die. Currently we are attempting to avoid people getting it.
If you are not going to prevent that that means that in a country of 300 million people, 3 million people would die.
That is a lot of people.

In addition, many survivors have suffered permanent lung and/or braindamage. Also not very nice.

In evn further addition, 300 million cases means 300 million chances for the virus to mutate into a new strain. Also something we do not want.

So.. even if YOUR numbers were correct; it is horrible.
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Postby Grenartia » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:51 pm

Psycho Peoples wrote:Why are we still living in fear of this fake virus?


If its a fake virus, then what killed Herman Cain?

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:52 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Psycho Peoples wrote:99% survival rate and exaggerated numbers.


A 99% survival rate means 1 in 100 people who contract it die. Currently we are attempting to avoid people getting it.
If you are not going to prevent that that means that in a country of 300 million people, 3 million people would die.
That is a lot of people.

In addition, many survivors have suffered permanent lung and/or braindamage. Also not very nice.

In evn further addition, 300 million cases means 300 million chances for the virus to mutate into a new strain. Also something we do not want.

So.. even if YOUR numbers were correct; it is horrible.


I'd also like to point out that 99% survival rate still makes it an order of magnitude more lethal than the flu.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:54 pm

Psycho Peoples wrote:
Zurkir wrote:
......

Ugh.

99% survival rate and exaggerated numbers.


Proof to back up your claim?
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Postby Grenartia » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:54 pm

Kowani wrote:
Psycho Peoples wrote:99% survival rate and exaggerated numbers.

Kowani wrote:World passes 3 million coronavirus deaths

According to a Reuters tally, it took more than a year for the global coronavirus death toll to reach 2 million. The next 1 million deaths were added in about three months.


So its killing people twice as fast now. Greeeeeeeeeat.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:05 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Psycho Peoples wrote:99% survival rate and exaggerated numbers.


Proof to back up your claim?

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