Elon Musk becomes new Technoking

[Ifreann]

See, it's this that's the problem. People who think that some weirdo is owed our respect because he invested in some businesses they like.

Every time someone complains about Musk's companies for the sake of it, a satellite gets its wings. It's getting pretty crowded up there!

Crowding orbital space is actually a serious problem, which could just block us from seeing the stars from Earth or could actually make it impossible to leave the planet for generations. But I'm not complaining about his companies at all. I'm complaining about the attitude that people have towards him specifically.

Why shouldn't I respect the Technoking?

Because he's a piece of shit.

If his company...

If Elon Musk never showed up to work again, the companies he's associated with would carry on just fine. If you get satellite internet some day, that will have nothing to do with Elon Musk. He isn't building the satellites himself. He isn't designing them. His name is just on some documents saying that he's in charge.

[Stellar Colonies]

He earned the title of Technoking when he launched a satellite internet service that is available everywhere and obliterates many land-based internet networks in terms of speed, ping and data restrictions. Downright magical what his company did.

Yeah, and greatly furthering the mess that satellites are already making with ground-based optical astronomy in the process.

Edit: Oh yeah, and also increasing the risk of Kessler Syndrome like Ifreann mentioned.

[Ifreann]

He earned the title of Technoking when he launched a satellite internet service that is available everywhere and obliterates many land-based internet networks in terms of speed, ping and data restrictions. Downright magical what his company did.

Yeah, and greatly furthering the mess that satellites are already making with ground-based optical astronomy in the process.

Dude's taking away the night sky from us, it's literal cartoon villainy.

[Stellar Colonies]

Yeah, and greatly furthering the mess that satellites are already making with ground-based optical astronomy in the process.

Dude's taking away the night sky from us, it's literal cartoon villainy.

It's like the problem with urban lighting, but now it is literally in the sky.

And then there are the signals screwing with radio astronomy...

[-Ocelot-]

Every time someone complains about Musk's companies for the sake of it, a satellite gets its wings. It's getting pretty crowded up there!

Is it ever - just ask the astronomers.

Why shouldn't I respect the Technoking? If his company scale prices down, it could obliterate my country's monopoly and offer everyone more options when it comes to internet services. I'm amazed at how much the American-majority NS seems to hate it, considering how much it could help them move away from their shitty regional monopolies.

Or countries could just enact/enforce anti-monopoly legislation, instead of just trading ShittyCom monopoly for a Musk monopoly.

You are just asking to be stuck with regional monopolies because satellite man scary. Government regulation on monopolies would be the ideal, but it's never going to happen. A company comes in and offers you an internet service that is guaranteed competition, is available everywhere, performs outstandingly but costs more. And even this isn't good enough for some people because satellite man scary.

He earned the title of Technoking when he launched a satellite internet service that is available everywhere and obliterates many land-based internet networks in terms of speed, ping and data restrictions. Downright magical what his company did.

Yeah, and greatly furthering the mess that satellites are already making with ground-based optical astronomy in the process.

These satellites are engineered to fall back to Earth when they stop working. It's not like they'll be up there forever.

[Silvedania]

I plan to be the Technoking of a place someday

[Ifreann]

Is it ever - just ask the astronomers.



Or countries could just enact/enforce anti-monopoly legislation, instead of just trading ShittyCom monopoly for a Musk monopoly.

You are just asking to be stuck with regional monopolies because satellite man scary. Government regulation on monopolies would be the ideal, but it's never going to happen. A company comes in and offers you an internet service that is guaranteed competition, is available everywhere, performs outstandingly but costs more. And even this isn't good enough for some people because satellite man scary.

Yeah, and greatly furthering the mess that satellites are already making with ground-based optical astronomy in the process.

These satellites are engineered to fall back to Earth when they stop working. It's not like they'll be up there forever.

So is this incredible satellite internet service only going to be available until the satellites fall back to Earth? Doesn't sound very good.

[Nilokeras]

You are just asking to be stuck with regional monopolies because satellite man scary. Government regulation on monopolies would be the ideal, but it's never going to happen. A company comes in and offers you an internet service that is guaranteed competition, is available everywhere, performs outstandingly but costs more. And even this isn't good enough for some people because satellite man scary.

I just reserve the appropriate amount of skepticism towards companies irrespective of whethe they have epic bacon meme CEOS or not. And of course if you pre-surrender to the idea that there will be no regulation and don't fight for it then you're just creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

These satellites are engineered to fall back to Earth when they stop working. It's not like they'll be up there forever.

What a non answer. They're launching more all the time as they ramp up capacity, and aim to keep satellites up there as part of a set of constellations.

[-Ocelot-]

You are just asking to be stuck with regional monopolies because satellite man scary. Government regulation on monopolies would be the ideal, but it's never going to happen. A company comes in and offers you an internet service that is guaranteed competition, is available everywhere, performs outstandingly but costs more. And even this isn't good enough for some people because satellite man scary.



These satellites are engineered to fall back to Earth when they stop working. It's not like they'll be up there forever.

So is this incredible satellite internet service only going to be available until the satellites fall back to Earth? Doesn't sound very good.

No, because more and more satellites are being launched. The total number of satellites will be constant.

This technology isn't a black box, you can actually look it up instead of treating it like a boogeyman that will "steal" your sky.

[Stellar Colonies]

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Yeah, and greatly furthering the mess that satellites are already making with ground-based optical astronomy in the process.

These satellites are engineered to fall back to Earth when they stop working. It's not like they'll be up there forever.

If they're continually replaced, that mess will be continually replenished, unless their albedo across the spectrum is significantly toned down.

And if they start smashing into orbital junk up there, they'll start spraying debris everywhere, which will make Earth orbit more dangerous in general. It's a big area, but if enough stuff is flying around...

[Nakena]

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These satellites are engineered to fall back to Earth when they stop working. It's not like they'll be up there forever.

If they're continually replaced, that mess will be continually replenished, unless their albedo across the spectrum is significantly toned down.

Don't worry. By the time this becomes relevant, thanks to the Technoking we will already have observatories on the moon.

[Ifreann]

You are just asking to be stuck with regional monopolies because satellite man scary. Government regulation on monopolies would be the ideal, but it's never going to happen. A company comes in and offers you an internet service that is guaranteed competition, is available everywhere, performs outstandingly but costs more. And even this isn't good enough for some people because satellite man scary.

I just reserve the appropriate amount of skepticism towards companies irrespective of whethe they have epic bacon meme CEOS or not. And of course if you pre-surrender to the idea that there will be no regulation then you're just creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I was somehow both shocked and not shocked to learn that the years of epic bacon memes were astroturfed by the pork industry in the US.

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So is this incredible satellite internet service only going to be available until the satellites fall back to Earth? Doesn't sound very good.

No, because more and more satellites are being launched. The total number of satellites will be constant.

So the problem of low Earth orbit being packed full of satellites will, effectively, be there indefinitely. So your point about the satellites not being there forever was meaningless.

This technology isn't a black box, you can actually look it up instead of treating it like a boogeyman who will "steal" your sky.

And you can look up Kessler syndrome and the reports from astronomers about these satellites interfering with our ability to observe space from Earth.

[The Blaatschapen]

I plan to be the Technoking of a place someday

Good one.

Don't tell [violet].

Though she'll call herself Technoqueen instead

[-Ocelot-]

I just reserve the appropriate amount of skepticism towards companies irrespective of whethe they have epic bacon meme CEOS or not. And of course if you pre-surrender to the idea that there will be no regulation then you're just creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I was somehow both shocked and not shocked to learn that the years of epic bacon memes were astroturfed by the pork industry in the US.

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No, because more and more satellites are being launched. The total number of satellites will be constant.

So the problem of low Earth orbit being packed full of satellites will, effectively, be there indefinitely. So your point about the satellites not being there forever was meaningless.

This technology isn't a black box, you can actually look it up instead of treating it like a boogeyman who will "steal" your sky.

And you can look up Kessler syndrome and the reports from astronomers about these satellites interfering with our ability to observe space from Earth.

ok, so...why not care about the actual junk that orbits Earth instead of attacking a company that puts up functioning satellites that clean themselves up when they stop working? That is, if you actually care about this problem and not just using it to attack "evil rich man"?

[Socialist States of Ludistan]

That childhood bullying is becoming pretty clear now.

[Ifreann]

I was somehow both shocked and not shocked to learn that the years of epic bacon memes were astroturfed by the pork industry in the US.

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So the problem of low Earth orbit being packed full of satellites will, effectively, be there indefinitely. So your point about the satellites not being there forever was meaningless.


And you can look up Kessler syndrome and the reports from astronomers about these satellites interfering with our ability to observe space from Earth.

ok, so...why not care about the actual junk that orbits Earth instead of attacking a company that puts up functioning satellites that clean themselves up when they stop working?

Because Kessler syndrome doesn't care about whether the satellite is providing you with an internet connection.

That is, if you actually care about this problem and not just using it to attack "evil rich man"?

These problems are real regardless what you believe my motivations are for pointing them out.

[Nilokeras]

If they're continually replaced, that mess will be continually replenished, unless their albedo across the spectrum is significantly toned down.

Don't worry. By the time this becomes relevant, thanks to the Technoking we will already have observatories on the moon.

Ground based telescopes on the Moon are a terrible idea. Prohibitively expensive and rife with engineering challenges in dealing with the extremes of the lunar environment and its effects on keeping instruments at the appropriate temperature. Nothing about them couldn't be accomplished much cheaper on an Earth orbiting platform or on the Earth's surface.

[Not A Plant]

"evil rich man"

I don't think the quotation marks are neccessary.

[Silvedania]

"evil rich man"

I don't think the quotation marks are neccessary.

treason time

[Theberstan]

A suitable title I must say.

[Istoreya]

He named his fucking kid X AE A-XII

That was Grimes. I don't think Elon cares much about their kid.

Not being an active participant in your child's life when you are supposedly an actual family is also something to be made fun of.

[Necroghastia]

I was somehow both shocked and not shocked to learn that the years of epic bacon memes were astroturfed by the pork industry in the US.

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So the problem of low Earth orbit being packed full of satellites will, effectively, be there indefinitely. So your point about the satellites not being there forever was meaningless.


And you can look up Kessler syndrome and the reports from astronomers about these satellites interfering with our ability to observe space from Earth.

ok, so...why not care about the actual junk that orbits Earth instead of attacking a company that puts up functioning satellites that clean themselves up when they stop working? That is, if you actually care about this problem and not just using it to attack "evil rich man"?

actual junk like cars blasted up there as a vanity project?

[-Ocelot-]

"evil rich man"

I don't think the quotation marks are neccessary.

Overthrow a communist dictatorship and make use of the nations lithium? Sounds like a win-win scenario to me, regardless of NSG approval lol

[-Ocelot-]

ok, so...why not care about the actual junk that orbits Earth instead of attacking a company that puts up functioning satellites that clean themselves up when they stop working?

Because Kessler syndrome doesn't care about whether the satellite is providing you with an internet connection.

That is, if you actually care about this problem and not just using it to attack "evil rich man"?

These problems are real regardless what you believe my motivations are for pointing them out.

If this was an actual problem, the company wouldn't have made this internet network in the first place out of fear of creating destructive chain reactions that would damage most satellites. The fact that they went through with it means these (very expensive) satellites aren't going to collide with anything in the first place. No matter how you see it, this doesn't seem to be a real problem. If it was, it would affect the creators of the network more than anyone else.

Try finding some other reason to hate musk.

[Heloin]

I don't think the quotation marks are neccessary.

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Overthrow a communist dictatorship and make use of the nations lithium? Sounds like a win-win scenario to me, regardless of NSG approval lol

It sounds like a win-win scenario if you're knowledge of Bolivia ends with they have lithium and then also confusing them for Grenada in the 1980s.