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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:33 pm

Elon, why?
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Postby Mandicoria » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:37 pm

Ancapimania wrote:I mean you can not roast him,he made a song about NFT's,he put a car in a rocket,he sold short shorts and flamethrowers

I mean you kinda can considering he exploits African child labor, exploits south American resources, and actively plans for fucking over human rights in his plans for Mars. Bunch of other stuff too, this is just scratching the surface. Like how he literally has it legally obliged for the actual founders of Tesla to never refer to themselves as founders, just so he can pretend he founded it.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm

Nilokeras wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Its not a dumb project, he is planning on bring the internet to places where it would cost 100's of millions to bring it in as fiber, and he is going to make money while doing good.

Which is the point, everyone says let's do this, or let's do that. He went out and raised the money to do what he wants, he at least has the balls to put his money where his mouth is and do something. Where everyone else wants someone else to foot the bill.


We were talking about a telescope on the Moon, not Starlink.


Upon review, I see that, you do make your point.
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Postby My Political Fantasy » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:52 pm

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:57 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Elon, why?

Because its fucking hilarious. Here is the 8-k.

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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:16 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Elon, why?

Because its fucking hilarious. Here is the 8-k.

what's the funny part?
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Postby Stylan » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:17 pm

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Postby -Ocelot- » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:26 pm

Heloin wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
I still can't believe that a company is spending astronomical amounts of money (no pun intended) to build a network that will self-destruct a few years down the road. Makes no sense financially.

Something tells me this network will prove to be more resilient than current wired network technology, especially copper-based networks that physically degrade over time. Maybe more companies will start putting satellites up there once this technology becomes less expensive to maintain, no matter how much NSG warns about the sky falling down on us.

Satellites degrade over time. Their parts will degrade same as any other system we have, put repairing a satellite is hardly worth the expense so it's always cheaper to send more up. Many will have orbits that decay enough so they'll burn up in the atmosphere but most will not decay fast enough to keep up with the rates new satellites will need to be launched.

It's honestly shocking that you can't believe companies will do something that is harmful to everyone in the long run for short term profits.


These satellites are engineered to return to Earth once they cease to be useful. They won't stay up there forever.

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Postby Nilokeras » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:41 pm

Nakena wrote:
Nilokeras wrote:
We were talking about a telescope on the Moon, not Starlink.


Yup:

https://astronomy.com/news/2021/01/astr ... n-the-moon
Article by Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-08941-8
Article by NASA: https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/space ... telescope/

etc.


All of which is assuming the capacity to build and existence of lunar infrastructure to support them. And if that infrastructure did exist, it would still be cheaper and more effective to build those telescopes as orbiting platforms that did not have to deal with problems like dust or thermal stress from day/night cycles.

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:53 pm

Got him! It's a title of Nobility, granted by ... a car in orbit around the Sun, which appears to be inhabited and thus fits the description "foreign State".

Article 1 Section 9 Clause 8 motherfucker. Oh, wait. He's not the President.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:15 pm

Stylan wrote:"Capitalism isn't turning into neo-feudali-


The neo-feudalist cyberpunk-oligarchs will make the wildest NRx dystopias come true.
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Postby Zul-ar » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:23 pm

We talking about this mofo right:
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:28 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote: Because its fucking hilarious. Here is the 8-k.

what's the funny part?

Towards the bottom, item 8.01. Other events.

He filed the titles with the SEC as part of a mandated report.
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Postby Heloin » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:42 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:
Heloin wrote:Satellites degrade over time. Their parts will degrade same as any other system we have, put repairing a satellite is hardly worth the expense so it's always cheaper to send more up. Many will have orbits that decay enough so they'll burn up in the atmosphere but most will not decay fast enough to keep up with the rates new satellites will need to be launched.

It's honestly shocking that you can't believe companies will do something that is harmful to everyone in the long run for short term profits.


These satellites are engineered to return to Earth once they cease to be useful. They won't stay up there forever.

No, they're placed in an orbit in which their orbit is expected decay in time frames of about 5 years if they don't have the propulsion to state in a stable orbit. The fuel needs to achieve orbit, leave orbit, and maintain orbit are all different needs with increasingly less fuel needed for each task. Dead tiny satellites waiting to decay enough that they burn up pose a serious risk to other satellites, and a single accidental collision would only makes things much worse.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:55 pm

Heloin wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
These satellites are engineered to return to Earth once they cease to be useful. They won't stay up there forever.

No, they're placed in an orbit in which their orbit is expected decay in time frames of about 5 years if they don't have the propulsion to state in a stable orbit. The fuel needs to achieve orbit, leave orbit, and maintain orbit are all different needs with increasingly less fuel needed for each task. Dead tiny satellites waiting to decay enough that they burn up pose a serious risk to other satellites, and a single accidental collision would only makes things much worse.

At least they are designed to burn up, much better than pelting the ground
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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby New Jacobland » Tue Mar 16, 2021 4:59 pm

Bruh.

What the hell is the point of Musk doing this?
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Postby Philjia » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:00 pm

Irregular reminder that Elon Musk is a massive fanboy for Iain M Banks' Culture novels (to the extent that he named some of SpaceX's rockets after spaceships from them), despite those books heavily criticising hierarchies and capitalism.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:06 pm

Philjia wrote:Irregular reminder that Elon Musk is a massive fanboy for Iain M Banks' Culture novels (to the extent that he named some of SpaceX's rockets after spaceships from them), despite those books heavily criticising hierarchies and capitalism.


Hey, I love the first star trek, where you never see anyone pay for anything, "Mr. Spock can you spot me a fiver till payday" has never been heard, yet I am a capitalist.
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Heloin » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:08 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Heloin wrote:No, they're placed in an orbit in which their orbit is expected decay in time frames of about 5 years if they don't have the propulsion to state in a stable orbit. The fuel needs to achieve orbit, leave orbit, and maintain orbit are all different needs with increasingly less fuel needed for each task. Dead tiny satellites waiting to decay enough that they burn up pose a serious risk to other satellites, and a single accidental collision would only makes things much worse.

At least they are designed to burn up, much better than pelting the ground

You kind of have to design something to hit the ground and not the other way round. I guess if at the size their at they were made from solid tungsten but then you're actually putting up supervillain weapons in orbit.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:10 pm

Heloin wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:At least they are designed to burn up, much better than pelting the ground

You kind of have to design something to hit the ground and not the other way round. I guess if at the size their at they were made from solid tungsten but then you're actually putting up supervillain weapons in orbit.

Thats how I would play, satellites for the world, thats what I tell them.. programmable rods of God, they be.

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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Heloin » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:11 pm

Philjia wrote:Irregular reminder that Elon Musk is a massive fanboy for Iain M Banks' Culture novels (to the extent that he named some of SpaceX's rockets after spaceships from them), despite those books heavily criticising hierarchies and capitalism.

I mean, I think Starship Trooper is a pretty good book but I'm not all gung ho for space fascism.

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Postby Heloin » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:14 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Heloin wrote:You kind of have to design something to hit the ground and not the other way round. I guess if at the size their at they were made from solid tungsten but then you're actually putting up supervillain weapons in orbit.

Thats how I would play, satellites for the world, thats what I tell them.. programmable rods of God, they be.

BWAHAHAHAHA
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Do you expect me to talk Ethel?

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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:21 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:what's the funny part?

Towards the bottom, item 8.01. Other events.

He filed the titles with the SEC as part of a mandated report.

I said funny, not cringe.
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Postby Adamede » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:25 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Elon, why?

If I had his money I’d give myself silly titles too.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:26 pm

Heloin wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Thats how I would play, satellites for the world, thats what I tell them.. programmable rods of God, they be.

BWAHAHAHAHA
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Do you expect me to talk Ethel?

No, ms. Rabbit
I expect you to. ..


Oh wait, trying to get me warned for threatening another poster are yee?
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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