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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:17 am

"Techno" seems rather dated to me. Even "Tech" is used to describe rather mundane things.

He's autistic or something isn't he?
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Postby Risottia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:19 am

Rusozak wrote:Can we declare him a James Bond villain yet?

Not until he kidnaps some hot chick and paints her in bitcoins.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:22 am

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Success breeds jealousy.

Except when those 'jealous' people don't even want what he has and just hate him for being an actual clown that bought cobalt from companies that use child labour and also for his stances on unions along with his Afrikaaner apartheid upbringing and the various other controversies that surround him. Doesn't help that he ceaselessly tries to appeal to the younger generation with his 'le epic maymay' approach to marketing and publicity. He is literally like every other big businessman who tries to appeal to the fellow kids but somehow he does it successfully.

It's like every time people criticise a rich guy their supporters can just deflect by using 'lol ur jealous' as an argument, even though 'lol ur jealous' is a cretinous argument used by the spineless bootlickers. Imagine if you weren't allowed to criticise Krupp for their involvement with Nazi Germany because you were just being 'jealous' of their success with slave labour.


I can oppose mob mentality and irrational hatred towards successful people without supporting anyone in particular. Don't confuse these two things.

Also don't call me a bootlicker just because you disagree with me, please. I never insulted you.

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Postby Sundiata » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:23 am

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:"Techno" seems rather dated to me. Even "Tech" is used to describe rather mundane things.

He's autistic or something isn't he?

He doesn't seem well-adapted socially. He probably could have autism but I wouldn't assume it.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:26 am

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A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:"Techno" seems rather dated to me. Even "Tech" is used to describe rather mundane things.

He's autistic or something isn't he?

He doesn't seem well-adapted socially. He probably could have autism but I wouldn't assume it.

He could also be just a rich smartass.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:29 am

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Success breeds jealousy.

Except when those 'jealous' people don't even want what he has and just hate him for being an actual clown that bought cobalt from companies that use child labour and also for his stances on unions along with his Afrikaaner apartheid upbringing


The rest is fair enough, but attacking someone for where they were born ... hey, isn't that some kind of racism?

Or what his parents were like. Until maybe age 14 or so, plausibly he could run away from home. Though, white boy alone in South Africa, maybe not an option.

and the various other controversies that surround him. Doesn't help that he ceaselessly tries to appeal to the younger generation with his 'le epic maymay' approach to marketing and publicity. He is literally like every other big businessman who tries to appeal to the fellow kids but somehow he does it successfully.


Or with mixed success. Would be interesting to see some polling of the younger generation.

It would be funny if the villain of my youth, Bill Gates, could pip tryhard Musk ... even being an actual living Boomer.

I like Gates now. How a man spends his money tells you where his heart is. If he's a better man because of the woman he married, then equal credit to her too.



It's like every time people criticise a rich guy their supporters can just deflect by using 'lol ur jealous' as an argument, even though 'lol ur jealous' is a cretinous argument used by the spineless bootlickers. Imagine if you weren't allowed to criticise Krupp for their involvement with Nazi Germany because you were just being 'jealous' of their success with slave labour.


lol you're just jealous :p
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:32 am

Rusozak wrote:Can we declare him a James Bond villain yet?

Nah, that's far more appropriate for Bezos. Have you seen a video of his laugh?

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Postby -Ocelot- » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:34 am

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Rusozak wrote:Can we declare him a James Bond villain yet?

Nah, that's far more appropriate for Bezos. Have you seen a video of his laugh?


Depends. Is he going to talk needlessly to the agent if he captures him, giving him enough time to escape?

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:35 am

Risottia wrote:
Sundiata wrote:He doesn't seem well-adapted socially. He probably could have autism but I wouldn't assume it.

He could also be just a rich smartass.

To be fair, this is also basically Musk flexing dominance on his company, especially since he was stripped off his Chairman position after the 420 tweet scandal.

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Postby The Troas Sector » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:35 am

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I can oppose mob mentality and irrational hatred towards successful people without supporting anyone in particular. Don't confuse these two things.

Also don't call me a bootlicker just because you disagree with me, please. I never insulted you.

Sorry, I just get annoyed when I see that specific argument since it just seems extremely cliché at this point. I fully admit it was an ad hominem attack and I shouldn't have done it.

And yeah, you have a point, hating people out of jealous and irrational reasons is stupid and doesn't make much sense, but I do have a few good reasons to dislike Musk's specific brand of idiocy.

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Postby Sundiata » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:35 am

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Sundiata wrote:He doesn't seem well-adapted socially. He probably could have autism but I wouldn't assume it.

He could also be just a rich smartass.

I doubt it. He might have autism and if not a neurological issue, possibly a personality disorder from what I've read about his life and observed of his behavior. It's good that he's a wealthy entrepreneur and public figure, but given his level of influence it's fair to be skeptical about his psychological and cognitive health.
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Postby The Troas Sector » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:52 am

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:The rest is fair enough, but attacking someone for where they were born ... hey, isn't that some kind of racism?

Or what his parents were like. Until maybe age 14 or so, plausibly he could run away from home. Though, white boy alone in South Africa, maybe not an option.


I should have further elaborated on that point, Elon was born to a privileged family in white South Africa that gave him even more opportunities in education than even a normal white family would have. I know there's a lot of debate around whether Errol Musk gave him support on his first business ventures but he still definitely got ahead in life thanks to who he was born to and where he was born. I'm certain Elon's family definitely played a large part in how he became rich even if he was 'poor' (heard some pity party sources say he was impoverished when he started zip2) when he founded his first company.

Or with mixed success. Would be interesting to see some polling of the younger generation.

It would be funny if the villain of my youth, Bill Gates, could pip tryhard Musk ... even being an actual living Boomer.

I like Gates now. How a man spends his money tells you where his heart is. If he's a better man because of the woman he married, then equal credit to her too.


To be honest his ability to get onto things like PewDiePie's meme review along with his twitterposting get him a lot of publicity from his younger audience. Still would be interesting to get a poll.

As for Gates, I personally don't care much about him as to me he's just another incredibly rich guy. Perhaps this is generation divide but he doesn't mean as much to us in the post 2000 generation as we were too young to remember when he was still in charge of Microsoft (fully at least) and since he does philanthropic work now he generally falls under a lot of people's radars.

I have certain views on philanthropy so I won't get into that as it may start a thread derailment and possibly an outrage.

lol you're just jealous :p


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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:55 am

Sundiata wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:"Techno" seems rather dated to me. Even "Tech" is used to describe rather mundane things.

He's autistic or something isn't he?

He doesn't seem well-adapted socially. He probably could have autism but I wouldn't assume it.


I thought someone might know. Of course he's under no more obligation to disclose any diagnosis he may have gotten, than the President is.

Really no-one should be. If you want health insurance, what business is it of the insurer whether you've had heart problems, strokes or really anything? "Oh, it's just so you get the right treatment as quickly as possible, sir and/or madam" ... cheers, that's nice, I'll opt out thanks. And any other business. Your body is not part of their business, so they should mind their own business.

Usual disclaimer: us Aussies all riding 'roos to work doesn't make us perfect. Government has most people's medical records -- all of each one's medical records -- in one handy database. Which every GP and hospital in the country can access, with the patient's permission of course. There's an opt-out but I didn't take it. I'll go as far as trusting the government and medical professionals, but that's all that will fit in my hospital room.

Sales reps for the drugs and equipment, a painting crew trying to cover up an "accident" someone had, some Med students volunteering for extra credit ... and this lady in white, who's some kind of accountant checking that a corporation in another city is getting their cut. Mater misericordiae!
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Postby Risottia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:59 am

Sundiata wrote:
Risottia wrote:He could also be just a rich smartass.

I doubt it. He might have autism and if not a neurological issue, possibly a personality disorder from what I've read about his life and observed of his behavior.

Are you a psychiatrist?
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:06 am

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I have certain views on philanthropy so I won't get into that as it may start a thread derailment and possibly an outrage.


Fair enough to all the rest. I've been dubious about charity/philanthropy since governments started donating to charity. Or subsidizing it if you prefer. Ignoring the order of events, that's privatizing welfare.

I look forward to the subject coming up some day!
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:08 am

Risottia wrote:
Sundiata wrote:I doubt it. He might have autism and if not a neurological issue, possibly a personality disorder from what I've read about his life and observed of his behavior.

Are you a psychiatrist?


Even if someone is a psychiatrist, it would be highly wrong to diagnose someone who is not their patient.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:09 am

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Sundiata wrote:I doubt it. He might have autism and if not a neurological issue, possibly a personality disorder from what I've read about his life and observed of his behavior.

Are you a psychiatrist?

You mean everyone on the internet isn't?
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Postby The Troas Sector » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:12 am

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Risottia wrote:Are you a psychiatrist?

You mean everyone on the internet isn't?

Why would someone ever lie on the internet?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:30 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Risottia wrote:Are you a psychiatrist?


Even if someone is a psychiatrist, it would be highly wrong to diagnose someone who is not their patient.

It seems to me this patient thinks he is a sheep.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:31 am

The Troas Sector wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:You mean everyone on the internet isn't?

Why would someone ever lie on the internet?

Not i Dr., Not i.
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Postby Sokana » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:35 am

He’s gonna he’s to talk with Technoblade about that.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:54 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Even if someone is a psychiatrist, it would be highly wrong to diagnose someone who is not their patient.

It seems to me this patient thinks he is a sheep.


Woah, I'm not your patient.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:15 am

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Ethel mermania wrote:It seems to me this patient thinks he is a sheep.


Woah, I'm not your patient.


Every time I do wrong, I wanna do right.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:22 am

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I don't think the quotation marks are neccessary.

(Image)


Overthrow a communist dictatorship and make use of the nations lithium? Sounds like a win-win scenario to me, regardless of NSG approval lol

33 people died and over 700 were injured in the Bolivian coup.


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Ifreann wrote:Because Kessler syndrome doesn't care about whether the satellite is providing you with an internet connection.

These problems are real regardless what you believe my motivations are for pointing them out.


If this was an actual problem, the company wouldn't have made this internet network in the first place out of fear of creating destructive chain reactions that would damage most satellites. The fact that they went through with it means these (very expensive) satellites aren't going to collide with anything in the first place. No matter how you see it, this doesn't seem to be a real problem. If it was, it would affect the creators of the network more than anyone else.

Try finding some other reason to hate musk.

This is like saying that if it were possible for pipelines to leak then no one would ever make them, or like saying climate change can't be real because if it was then why are companies still buying coal and oil. You've started reasoning from the belief that your favourite business can do no wrong and concluded that all the problems they're causing can't be real.


Philjia wrote:Irregular reminder that Elon Musk is a massive fanboy for Iain M Banks' Culture novels (to the extent that he named some of SpaceX's rockets after spaceships from them), despite those books heavily criticising hierarchies and capitalism.

Trust Elon to be the type of guy who misses everything in the books except the cool ship names.


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Pretty based. Sure it's silly, but if you're as rich and powerful as he is, eh, why not have a bit of fun? Long as it helps accelerate us getting to Mars I'm happy.

Quite the opposite, we could have faster technological development without Musk. Capitalism in general stifles innovation, but he keeps directing people's time and energy towards stupid projects like the hyperloop.


Infected Mushroom wrote:Why do I get the feeling that in a few years, Elon Musk will be President of the USA?

He's not eligible.
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Postby Duvniask » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:55 am

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I don't think the quotation marks are neccessary.

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Overthrow a communist dictatorship and make use of the nations lithium? Sounds like a win-win scenario to me, regardless of NSG approval lol

Overthrowing a soc-dem regime, creating a dictatorship in its stead to oppress the people (especially the indigenous) all just to plunder the mineral wealth of the country might be a win-win if you're a despicable, evil fuck.

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