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What ideology (1–2) do you personally most agree (or least disagree) with?

Socialism
117
22%
Republicanism
36
7%
Liberalism
107
20%
Internationalism
21
4%
Environmentalism
61
11%
Capitalism
55
10%
Conservatism
47
9%
Authoritarianism
28
5%
Nationalism
58
11%
Productivism
12
2%
 
Total votes : 542

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Mon Khmer
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Postby Mon Khmer » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:12 pm

If these are supposed to be opposite pairs, shouldn't Authoritarianism and Conservatism be swapped, since the former is the opposite of Republicanism, and the latter is the opposite of Liberalism?

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Major-Tom
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:45 pm

If we're going off these very general ideologies and worldviews from the opening post (nothing wrong with that, by the way), then I'd err towards liberalism. Although, a lot of those worldviews you listed aren't mutually exclusive. On the contrary, quite a few are interrelated and could be considered subsets or common ideas within a given umbrella ideology.

Either way, I choose liberalism not because I'm some standard American liberal on every issue, but because if I think of where I stand in the broadest sense, the ideas of individual liberty, freedom of association, equity, and secularism come to mind. I support limiting government where it is prudent to do so, which is why I still come out in favor of a fair-sized welfare state, public healthcare, and good governance in environmental and corporate regulation. Those are some facets of society where the government has a role to help out. But, in general, I'd like the government to butt out of issues related to individual freedom as much as possible.
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Airceltria
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Postby Airceltria » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:48 pm

If I was to pick from your list I would pick Liberalism because I think everyone should have equal rights and freedoms.

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Disgraces
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Postby Disgraces » Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:53 pm

Mon Khmer wrote:If these are supposed to be opposite pairs, shouldn't Authoritarianism and Conservatism be swapped, since the former is the opposite of Republicanism, and the latter is the opposite of Liberalism?

Authoritarianisn isn't really the opposite of republicanism
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Postby Sanlibutan » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:03 pm

Mon Khmer wrote:If these are supposed to be opposite pairs, shouldn't Authoritarianism and Conservatism be swapped, since the former is the opposite of Republicanism, and the latter is the opposite of Liberalism?


I appreciate your feedback. It's best not to think of the "opposites" as really opposites in this context. They are intended to be complementary if desired — not a binary one or the other (e.g. anti-matter vs. matter) sort of thing. It is partly confusing and abstract but then again, so is ideology.

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Airceltria
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Postby Airceltria » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:03 pm

Disgraces wrote:
Mon Khmer wrote:If these are supposed to be opposite pairs, shouldn't Authoritarianism and Conservatism be swapped, since the former is the opposite of Republicanism, and the latter is the opposite of Liberalism?

Authoritarianisn isn't really the opposite of republicanism


Gonna have to agree with Disgraces here. A republic can be either democratic or authoritarian because those two systems are not align with conservatism and liberalism as strongly as people believe. True the most well known authoritarian states in history were reactionary ones but proof that an authoritarian state can be on the left is the Italian Regency of Carnaro. That state pretty much predicted the counter culture of the sixties in the US due to how libertine it was for it's short life but the leader ruled with immense power and used some of the most famous traits of latter fascist states would be known for.

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Postby My Political Fantasy » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:06 pm

Neoliberalism with edgy internet socialist characteristics.
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Postby Mercatus » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:24 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Mercatus wrote:Nationalistic Capitalism (if that's a thing?). If we were allowed more than 2 options in the poll I could've added liberalism too. Classical Liberalism, not modern left-wing bullshittery.

National Liberalism maybe?


Sounds about right.

Let's go with that.

I want people to defend their moonshine distilleries with M60s they purchased over the counter in 5 minutes, that's pretty much my ideology regarding civil matters. As for economics, there should be a hard limit on what percent of your income can be taxed, maybe 5% for federal taxes, 3% for state, and .5% for local. We should do away with property taxes and give private citizens complete authority over what happens to that property, so long as it doesn't threaten the life or health of innocent bystanders. Corporate tax should be zero, inheritance tax should be zero. People should be able to start any kind of business without special government permits or taxes to sell certain products, like firearms or alcohol. A freer society is a happy society. Being from the US, I am for all the "America First" stuff, putting American interests above everyone else's.

However, I am most certainly not for legalizing hard drugs like meth or crack. There have to be some limits.
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Gunov
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Postby Gunov » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:36 pm

I am a (unsurprisingly) socialist.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:41 pm

Duvniask wrote:The shelves sure are stacked at this supermarket of ideology.


It's all the unsold productivism.
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Postby Ancapimania » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:45 pm

Gunov wrote:I am a (unsurprisingly) socialist.

Are you from North Korea? Most people who come from North Korea start off socialist.
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Aequalitatis ac Libertatis
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Postby Aequalitatis ac Libertatis » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:52 pm

Nationalism, liberalism, and socialism, although I didn't vote on socialism
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:54 pm

Add the option of social liberalism to the questionnaire and reopen it. I'm sure the results will be different.
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Western Theram
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Postby Western Theram » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:59 pm

i'd say socialism mainly
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Postby Bigpipstan » Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:01 pm

well my country is liberal, socialist and nationalist(tho isolationism would be more appropriate then nationalism)
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:26 pm

Ancapimania wrote:
Gunov wrote:I am a (unsurprisingly) socialist.

Are you from North Korea? Most people who come from North Korea start off socialist.

No I think he might be a tankie.
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Postby Sanlibutan » Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:16 pm

The results (%) as of 194 votes (the present results may be different):

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Key:
-- Liberalism
-- Socialism
-- Environmentalism
-- Nationalism
-- Republicanism
-- Capitalism
-- Internationalism
-- Conservatism
-- Authoritarianism
-- Productivism

I am thankful to all those who have participated thus far. It is very helpful for me! :)

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Add the option of social liberalism to the questionnaire and reopen it. I'm sure the results will be different.


I don't doubt that changing the parameters of the poll would end in a different result. However, your suggestion will not be followed through with for 3 reasons:
1. Polls are limited to a max of 10 options by the forum itself — no more options can be added. Coincidentally, I limited myself to a max of 10 ideologies when creating this categorization system offsite.
2. Social liberalism is a variant of liberalism, this poll is meant to gauge general ideologies — at least limited to the options specified in this system.
3. Restarting the poll would be a waste of the existing votes and creating a slight duplicated variant of the poll (at least for as long as this one remains active) would be unnecessary.

Nonetheless I appreciate you taking the time to share your feedback.

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Torisakia
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Postby Torisakia » Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:21 pm

My ideology is too complex for mere mortals to comprehend.
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Duvniask
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Duvniask » Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:45 pm

Aequalitatis ac Libertatis wrote:Nationalism, liberalism, and socialism, although I didn't vote on socialism

Word salad.

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Sundiata
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Postby Sundiata » Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:49 pm

As a joke I was going to say feudalism but I don't really have a political ideology.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:22 pm

Sundiata wrote:As a joke I was going to say feudalism but I don't really have a political ideology.


I thought you're a distributist?
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Honeydewistania
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:27 pm

Eco-socialism 8)
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Aequalitatis ac Libertatis
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Postby Aequalitatis ac Libertatis » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:35 pm

Duvniask wrote:
Aequalitatis ac Libertatis wrote:Nationalism, liberalism, and socialism, although I didn't vote on socialism

Word salad.

...why is that word salad?
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Postby Sundiata » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:11 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Sundiata wrote:As a joke I was going to say feudalism but I don't really have a political ideology.


I thought you're a distributist?

In certain ways, but I don't call myself that because I don't agree with the Labor Theory of Value.
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Postby Untecna » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:15 pm

Social Democracy with Free Markets
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