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Postby Grenartia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:54 am

The Republic of Western Sol wrote:Well, my BF has come out as trans :)

Edit: GF


Congrats on the girlfriend!

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Or, you could touch grass and come to terms with the fact that you probably won't have a political career.

I have confidence I will have a political carrer


Yeah, and I had confidence I'd be the first person on Mars by now.

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Saiwania wrote:https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/europe/russian-president-vladimir-putin-signs-lgbtq-propaganda-bill-into-law-articleshow.html

The right wing internationally will love this perhaps, but Vladimir Putin and his legislature has recently criminalized LGBTQ+.

Intervention in Russia when?


I'd prefer we underground railroad and give refugee status to queer Russians.
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:03 am

Scotland and Spain have both voted to introduce gender self-ID schemes for over-16s today!

The timing is purely coincidental: at least, Holyrood debate could have ended a couple of days ago if not for the sheer number of amendments proposed. But now I'm wondering how high today ranks on the list of Great Days in Trans Rights History!

(This is my post #11,500.)
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Postby Kowani » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:05 am

Tinhampton wrote:Scotland and Spain have both voted to introduce gender self-ID schemes for over-16s today!

The timing is purely coincidental: at least, Holyrood debate could have ended a couple of days ago if not for the sheer number of amendments proposed. But now I'm wondering how high today ranks on the list of Great Days in Trans Rights History!

(This is my post #11,500.)

The doomed attempt by the tories to filibuster the Scottish bill was darkly funny in how desperate they were
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:16 am

Tinhampton wrote:Scotland and Spain have both voted to introduce gender self-ID schemes for over-16s today!

The timing is purely coincidental: at least, Holyrood debate could have ended a couple of days ago if not for the sheer number of amendments proposed. But now I'm wondering how high today ranks on the list of Great Days in Trans Rights History!

(This is my post #11,500.)


And could've been done six years ago had the GenCrits stopped thowing constant tantrums.
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Postby Aggicificicerous » Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:10 am

Kowani wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Scotland and Spain have both voted to introduce gender self-ID schemes for over-16s today!

The timing is purely coincidental: at least, Holyrood debate could have ended a couple of days ago if not for the sheer number of amendments proposed. But now I'm wondering how high today ranks on the list of Great Days in Trans Rights History!

(This is my post #11,500.)

The doomed attempt by the tories to filibuster the Scottish bill was darkly funny in how desperate they were


Every time I try to understand UK politics, my brain melts a little more. I can accept that they have some, uh, unique outlooks. But when it comes to trans people, the response is unhinged beyond belief. What the fuck is going on over there?

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Postby Prizea » Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:41 am

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Kowani wrote:The doomed attempt by the tories to filibuster the Scottish bill was darkly funny in how desperate they were


Every time I try to understand UK politics, my brain melts a little more. I can accept that they have some, uh, unique outlooks. But when it comes to trans people, the response is unhinged beyond belief. What the fuck is going on over there?


British public life is deeply transphobic. It’s different than the US, since over there transphobia is associated with poor rural people whereas over here transphobia is a thing that is baked into the media and political elite (the Guardian, for example, is a left wing publication but has also made pushing transphobia a major project of theirs).

Plus, now right wing politicians have seized onto the culture war stuff after Brexit stopped being a thing they could wedge on and are pushing their own transphobic narrative that nobody is really contesting in England or Wales (SNP are apparently contesting it in Scotland, and are seemingly far more credible about transgender rights than Labour, but ultimately SNP are not a factor outside of Scotland for obvious reasons, and Northern Ireland is so far down in the weeds that I’m not certain what is going on over there).

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:38 pm

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Kowani wrote:The doomed attempt by the tories to filibuster the Scottish bill was darkly funny in how desperate they were


Every time I try to understand UK politics, my brain melts a little more. I can accept that they have some, uh, unique outlooks. But when it comes to trans people, the response is unhinged beyond belief. What the fuck is going on over there?

One "gender critical" protester in the public gallery was photographed lifting up her skirt and screaming at MSPs. This was a premeditated act of protest, as she had attached some manner of merkin to the front of her tights. I'm given to understand that primary school children were in attendance.

Unfathomable brain rot.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:45 pm

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Kowani wrote:The doomed attempt by the tories to filibuster the Scottish bill was darkly funny in how desperate they were


Every time I try to understand UK politics, my brain melts a little more. I can accept that they have some, uh, unique outlooks. But when it comes to trans people, the response is unhinged beyond belief. What the fuck is going on over there?

They're not nicknamed "TERF Island" for nothing, I guess.
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Postby Grenartia » Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:32 am

Ifreann wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
Every time I try to understand UK politics, my brain melts a little more. I can accept that they have some, uh, unique outlooks. But when it comes to trans people, the response is unhinged beyond belief. What the fuck is going on over there?

One "gender critical" protester in the public gallery was photographed lifting up her skirt and screaming at MSPs. This was a premeditated act of protest, as she had attached some manner of merkin to the front of her tights. I'm given to understand that primary school children were in attendance.

Unfathomable brain rot.


Wait, let me get this correct: One of them unironically and publicly did a thing they accuse us of doing all the time? Let me guess: they're hailing her as a hero.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:25 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:One "gender critical" protester in the public gallery was photographed lifting up her skirt and screaming at MSPs. This was a premeditated act of protest, as she had attached some manner of merkin to the front of her tights. I'm given to understand that primary school children were in attendance.

Unfathomable brain rot.


Wait, let me get this correct: One of them unironically and publicly did a thing they accuse us of doing all the time? Let me guess: they're hailing her as a hero.

They seem to be fans of her work.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:56 pm

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Postby Grenartia » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:44 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Wait, let me get this correct: One of them unironically and publicly did a thing they accuse us of doing all the time? Let me guess: they're hailing her as a hero.

They seem to be fans of her work.


If only this level of cringe could be utilized to generate clean energy.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:41 pm

Prizea wrote:British public life is deeply transphobic. It’s different than the US, since over there transphobia is associated with poor rural people whereas over here transphobia is a thing that is baked into the media and political elite..


For many people like myself, that is a feature and not a detriment. Why can't the US also be like that? Any country which doesn't try to complicate things and sticks to and upholds common and observed reality and tradition like the default "only 2 genders" binary, has my respect.

The US has really gone off the rails with these bathroom controversies, drag show stuff, and more. In the US, the media and political elite instead tries to push LGBTQ+ stuff as being some new normal that should be implemented as if it were a new sexual revolution. Only the US Conservatives and GOP, are really and truly committed to putting a stop to it or turning back the clock, only their efforts have failed more often than not.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 24, 2022 8:16 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Prizea wrote:British public life is deeply transphobic. It’s different than the US, since over there transphobia is associated with poor rural people whereas over here transphobia is a thing that is baked into the media and political elite..


For many people like myself, that is a feature and not a detriment. Why can't the US also be like that? Any country which doesn't try to complicate things and sticks to and upholds common and observed reality and tradition like the default "only 2 genders" binary, has my respect.

The US has really gone off the rails with these bathroom controversies, drag show stuff, and more. In the US, the media and political elite instead tries to push LGBTQ+ stuff as being some new normal that should be implemented as if it were a new sexual revolution. Only the US Conservatives and GOP, are really and truly committed to putting a stop to it or turning back the clock, only their efforts have failed more often than not.

And will ever continue to fail, because at the end of the day what you are fighting against is simply more real than what you are fighting for. The gender binary is a simple explanation that works well enough if you're not looking too closely or thinking too hard. The deep reality is that humans are electrified goo that thinks. We aren't any of the categories we use for ourselves, no matter how much you value those categories.

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Postby Grenartia » Sun Dec 25, 2022 12:50 am

Saiwania wrote:
Prizea wrote:British public life is deeply transphobic. It’s different than the US, since over there transphobia is associated with poor rural people whereas over here transphobia is a thing that is baked into the media and political elite..


For many people like myself, that is a feature and not a detriment. Why can't the US also be like that? Any country which doesn't try to complicate things and sticks to and upholds common and observed reality and tradition like the default "only 2 genders" binary, has my respect.

The US has really gone off the rails with these bathroom controversies, drag show stuff, and more. In the US, the media and political elite instead tries to push LGBTQ+ stuff as being some new normal that should be implemented as if it were a new sexual revolution. Only the US Conservatives and GOP, are really and truly committed to putting a stop to it or turning back the clock, only their efforts have failed more often than not.


Ok, unironic nazi. Hey, everyone! The ACTUAL NAZI thinks this shit is bad!
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:39 am

After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:43 am

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.

Congratulations
You are however not getting the cookie promised to you because we have completely ran out of them after the first thousand transphobes who paraded through here

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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:45 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.

Congratulations
You are however not getting the cookie promised to you because we have completely ran out of them after the first thousand transphobes who paraded through here


What a rip-off.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:57 am

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.


I am proudly transphobophobic. Be cis if you want, just don't force that shit on your kids. Or mine.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:51 am

Grenartia wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.


I am proudly transphobophobic. Be cis if you want, just don't force that shit on your kids. Or mine.


I believe that only people who immediately had a long white beard from the moment of birth should be allowed to drive a sleigh and hand out gifts. I'm transhohohobic.
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:58 am

Grenartia wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.


I am proudly transphobophobic. Be cis if you want, just don't force that shit on your kids. Or mine.


Stunning and brave.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:09 am

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.


OK
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:56 pm

Grenartia wrote:
The Land of the Ephyral wrote:After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.


I am proudly transphobophobic. Be cis if you want, just don't force that shit on your kids. Or mine.


You have kids?

Congrats :)
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:35 pm

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:After much consideration I have decided to come out as transphobic.
Similarly and oppositional-ly, I have considered and decided to come out and awaken as trans(cendent)-trans! (Split on whether it’s genuine, joke or both?)

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Postby Grenartia » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:38 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I am proudly transphobophobic. Be cis if you want, just don't force that shit on your kids. Or mine.


You have kids?

Congrats :)


No, but still.
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