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Postby Sordhau » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:40 pm

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I see this is not a place for diversity of opinion or facts contrary to entrenched orthodoxy. Disagreeing with my statements is not “baiting” (what a silly sheltering term) it’s called fear. Fear of a contrary thought.


*shrugs* If you want to talk 4chan style go to the 4chan site. Edge lords are boring. You were baiting and got red carded for it.


Hey now, don't insult 4chan like that. 4channers actually debate in good faith.
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:41 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:If they do hate conservatives, than that is disappointing and sad. However, they might not. I will wait for their response to your statement to determine.


Remember, it's disappointing that people hate you for wanting to take away their basic right to exist in society.

Why are you attacking me?

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:42 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
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Remember, it's disappointing that people hate you for wanting to take away their basic right to exist in society.

Why are you attacking me?


...Apparently disagreeing with your views is attacking you now?
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Postby Illegal Planets » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:43 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Why are you attacking me?


...Apparently disagreeing with your views is attacking you now?


The irony of this post is hilarious.
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:44 pm

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Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Why are you attacking me?


...Apparently disagreeing with your views is attacking you now?

I meant, why did you just turn around and throw a debate jab by saying I want to take away trans rights? I literally am with you guys, I don't care about trans people, as long as they don't intervene with my business they can live in anyway they like.

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Postby JohnGaltia » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:45 pm

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I am a laissez faire capitalist and a rational individualist. I don't care what that classifies me as politically and I don't care about the image that reflects upon Republicans any more than it reflects upon Democrats!

Just don't try to sink the Republican Ship with your bigoted statements, please. Try to disassociate yourselves with us if you really don't care if the Republicans get a bad image because of your statements. Make your own raft, just don't sink the Republican Ship.


I've never represented myself or my views as "Republican" and in fact I have never mentioned politics at all. Therefore I have no obligation to disassociate myself from anything. If you think my views are being interpreted as Republican then maybe you ought to disassociate yourself from Republicans if you are uncomfortable with the similarities! LOL

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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:48 pm

JohnGaltia wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Just don't try to sink the Republican Ship with your bigoted statements, please. Try to disassociate yourselves with us if you really don't care if the Republicans get a bad image because of your statements. Make your own raft, just don't sink the Republican Ship.


I've never represented myself or my views as "Republican" and in fact I have never mentioned politics at all. Therefore I have no obligation to disassociate myself from anything. If you think my views are being interpreted as Republican then maybe you ought to disassociate yourself from Republicans if you are uncomfortable with the similarities! LOL

The similarities is that you are ultra-conservatives, which I admit, is a part of the Republican Party in several states.

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Postby JohnGaltia » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:49 pm

Illegal Planets wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
...Apparently disagreeing with your views is attacking you now?


The irony of this post is hilarious.


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Postby JohnGaltia » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:53 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
JohnGaltia wrote:
I've never represented myself or my views as "Republican" and in fact I have never mentioned politics at all. Therefore I have no obligation to disassociate myself from anything. If you think my views are being interpreted as Republican then maybe you ought to disassociate yourself from Republicans if you are uncomfortable with the similarities! LOL

The similarities is that you are ultra-conservatives, which I admit, is a part of the Republican Party in several states.


I will say this also. I have said nothing bigoted. Those trans people are entitled to their fantasies and lifestyle choices just as I am entitled to my right to live as a rational being!

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:55 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
...Apparently disagreeing with your views is attacking you now?

I meant, why did you just turn around and throw a debate jab by saying I want to take away trans rights? I literally am with you guys, I don't care about trans people, as long as they don't intervene with my business they can live in anyway they like.


You asked why LGBT+ people hate conservatives and then complained about being attacked when I explained why.
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:56 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:I meant, why did you just turn around and throw a debate jab by saying I want to take away trans rights? I literally am with you guys, I don't care about trans people, as long as they don't intervene with my business they can live in anyway they like.


You asked why LGBT+ people hate conservatives and then complained about being attacked when I explained why.

Didn't say that. The other guy said that, Illegal Planets dude.

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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:57 pm

JohnGaltia wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:The similarities is that you are ultra-conservatives, which I admit, is a part of the Republican Party in several states.


I will say this also. I have said nothing bigoted. Those trans people are entitled to their fantasies and lifestyle choices just as I am entitled to my right to live as a rational being!

What you just said is bigoted. Are you reading your own words?

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:58 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
You asked why LGBT+ people hate conservatives and then complained about being attacked when I explained why.

Didn't say that. The other guy said that, Illegal Planets dude.


Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Illegal Planets wrote:
I hate to break it to you, but you're guilty by association anyway. They hate conservatives.

If they do hate conservatives, than that is disappointing and sad. However, they might not. I will wait for their response to your statement to determine.


Is this your card?
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Didn't say that. The other guy said that, Illegal Planets dude.


Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:If they do hate conservatives, than that is disappointing and sad. However, they might not. I will wait for their response to your statement to determine.


Is this your card?

Yep, I said "If they do hate ocnsertatives" as a reponse to what the Illegal Planets dude said since he saidd you hate consertatives. However, I said "They might not."

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:03 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Vassenor wrote:


Is this your card?

Yep, I said "If they do hate ocnsertatives" as a reponse to what the Illegal Planets dude said since he saidd you hate consertatives. However, I said "They might not."


And I explained why people do the thing you find disappointing, at which point you complained that I was somehow attacking you.
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:04 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Yep, I said "If they do hate ocnsertatives" as a reponse to what the Illegal Planets dude said since he saidd you hate consertatives. However, I said "They might not."


And I explained why people do the thing you find disappointing, at which point you complained that I was somehow attacking you.

I am saying, people who hate all conservatives are dissapointig due to them not being willing to accept that there are non-bigoted conservatives like me.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:05 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And I explained why people do the thing you find disappointing, at which point you complained that I was somehow attacking you.

I am saying, people who hate all conservatives are dissapointig due to them not being willing to accept that there are non-bigoted conservatives like me.


Didn't you go off on one about how everyone who isn't a Christian worships literal Satan? Doesn't exactly scream "non-bigoted" to me.
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:06 pm

Illegal Planets wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:You see, you provided an example that will literally never happen and sounds so ridiculous that agreeing with it makes them look silly. Maybe if people like you would stop fucking doing that and would start looking at what actually happens in these cases our ideas would seem less silly
just an idea


Yeah that would never happen.

Yes, because one person in a nation of 332 million is absolutely a good counterargument and is entirely representative of the whole group.
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:06 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:I am saying, people who hate all conservatives are dissapointig due to them not being willing to accept that there are non-bigoted conservatives like me.


Didn't you go off on one about how everyone who isn't a Christian worships literal Satan? Doesn't exactly scream "non-bigoted" to me.

That was an ill-advised rant, and I apologize and condem my actions.

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Postby Illegal Planets » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:07 pm

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
Illegal Planets wrote:
Yeah that would never happen.

Yes, because one person in a nation of 332 million is absolutely a good counterargument and is entirely representative of the whole group.


You said it would literally never happen though.

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Didn't you go off on one about how everyone who isn't a Christian worships literal Satan? Doesn't exactly scream "non-bigoted" to me.

That was an ill-advised rant, and I apologize and condem my actions.


Just stop my guy you don't have to apologize for anything, especially to Vassenor of all people :rofl:
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:07 pm

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
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Yeah that would never happen.

Yes, because one person in a nation of 332 million is absolutely a good counterargument and is entirely representative of the whole group.


38 million. That's an incident from Canada.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:07 pm

Illegal Planets wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:Yes, because one person in a nation of 332 million is absolutely a good counterargument and is entirely representative of the whole group.


You said it would literally never happen though.


So what makes this one person representative of all trans people then?
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Postby JohnGaltia » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:09 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
JohnGaltia wrote:
I will say this also. I have said nothing bigoted. Those trans people are entitled to their fantasies and lifestyle choices just as I am entitled to my right to live as a rational being!

What you just said is bigoted. Are you reading your own words?


Of course. What is bigoted about what I said?

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Postby Illegal Planets » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:09 pm

The amount of times i've had words put in my mouth or had my positions misconstrued in absolute bad faith is truly impressive.
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Postby Drongonia » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Illegal Planets wrote:
You said it would literally never happen though.


So what makes this one person representative of all trans people then?

Wouldn't be surprised if there was something else untoward going on in that person's top two inches prior to any "trans-ness"

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