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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:42 pm

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No you don’t and it’s not a psychosis. They can live a normal life if they aren’t abused by your lot.

Oh and don’t suicide by mod. Especially; if this is a puppet account. They will go after your main one.


I have said nothing abusive. I have nothing but compassion for these people. They need mental help. I'm all for more funding to help them live in and deal with reality. Money for anti-hallucination medication and to be institutionalized if necessary to keep them from hurting themselves.

You're severely misunderstanding why trans people kill themselves. Most of the time it's because they feel trapped. Like people will hate them, or not wanna be around them, or will distance themselves from them. Even if it was a mental illness, it's not accepted, and that's what's leading people to kill themselves.
Of course, it's certainly not a mental illness, and is backed up by science. They aren't delusional or hallucinagenic, they just feel a cetain way. Why is that bad? Why can't they identify as something else? Is it hurting you? Again, they aren't killing themselves at such high rates because they are trans, being trans doesn't make people wanna kill themselves, they are killing themselves because people hate them for it.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:00 pm

So
I've been hearing noises about a "HB 1101" in Kansas proposing to forcibly "detransition" ppl
Anybody got anything on it?

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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:01 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So
I've been hearing noises about a "HB 1101" in Kansas proposing to forcibly "detransition" ppl
Anybody got anything on it?

Link to bill?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:02 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So
I've been hearing noises about a "HB 1101" in Kansas proposing to forcibly "detransition" ppl
Anybody got anything on it?

Link to bill?

Nothing relevant on google

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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:03 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Link to bill?

Nothing relevant on google

Is the bill on the Kansas Gov Website?

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:07 pm

It’s only a matter of time until Republicans and the right-wing bans transgender medicine for adults.
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:10 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:It’s only a matter of time until Republicans and the right-wing bans transgender medicine for adults.

CORRECTION:
It will take effort for the most conservatives and anti-establishment Republicans pass laws that will ban transitional surgery for adults.
Most Republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accesing transitional surgery

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:15 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:It’s only a matter of time until Republicans and the right-wing bans transgender medicine for adults.

CORRECTION:
It will take effort for the most conservatives and anti-establishment Republicans pass laws that will ban transitional surgery for adults.
Most Republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accesing transitional surgery

A damned lie.

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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:17 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:CORRECTION:
It will take effort for the most conservatives and anti-establishment Republicans pass laws that will ban transitional surgery for adults.
Most Republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accesing transitional surgery

A damned lie.

"A damned lie"
What is the lie? The fact that MOST republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accessing transitional surgery? Why can't you accept that MOST republicans aren't bigots? Why do you think the establishment would go so deep conservatives since it would lose so many voters?
If the lie is New Minneapolis' quote, then ignore my statement.

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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:27 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:A damned lie.

"A damned lie"
What is the lie? The fact that MOST republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accessing transitional surgery? Why can't you accept that MOST republicans aren't bigots? Why do you think the establishment would go so deep conservatives since it would lose so many voters?
If the lie is New Minneapolis' quote, then ignore my statement.

shit my duderino if it's that much of a fact it should be ezpz to source huh
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Postby Indiana Controlled Florida » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:28 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:"A damned lie"
What is the lie? The fact that MOST republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accessing transitional surgery? Why can't you accept that MOST republicans aren't bigots? Why do you think the establishment would go so deep conservatives since it would lose so many voters?
If the lie is New Minneapolis' quote, then ignore my statement.

shit my duderino if it's that much of a fact it should be ezpz to source huh

I don't understand what you just said. Use concise words, I don't know if that is slang or some other words but I know that I don't see those words everyday.

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Postby Grenartia » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:28 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:It’s only a matter of time until Republicans and the right-wing bans transgender medicine for adults.

CORRECTION:
It will take effort for the most conservatives and anti-establishment Republicans pass laws that will ban transitional surgery for adults.
Most Republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accesing transitional surgery


Alabama already tried banning HRT for some trans adults by setting their HRT ban limit to under 19s. Its only a matter of time before "until 21" hits the overton window. Swiftly followed by "until 26, because the human brain is still developing until 25".
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:29 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:shit my duderino if it's that much of a fact it should be ezpz to source huh

I don't understand what you just said. Use concise words, I don't know if that is slang or some other words but I know that I don't see those words everyday.

yeah i can tell you aren't familiar with the words "fact" or "source"
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Postby Hispida » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:32 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:I don't understand what you just said. Use concise words, I don't know if that is slang or some other words but I know that I don't see those words everyday.

yeah i can tell you aren't familiar with the words "fact" or "source"

pfft.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:34 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Why can't you accept that MOST republicans aren't bigots?


I won't speak for ABH, but I'll tell you why I can't accept that: I live in a deeply red state. I was born (and partially-raised) in another deeply red state. Neither of them are particularly unusual among red states. I've seen and interacted with plenty of people in both states who make no bones about being red voters. I used to be a republican. I say all of this to establish one fact: I know the mindset of most republicans, on an instinctual level. And bigotry is inherent to modern republicanism. Has been all of my life (nearly 30 years). Show me a republican who is genuinely not a bigot, and I'll show you a democrat in denial.

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Lemme ask you a question, ICF. Why can't you accept that most republicans ARE bigots?
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:37 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Why can't you accept that MOST republicans aren't bigots?


I won't speak for ABH, but I'll tell you why I can't accept that: I live in a deeply red state. I was born (and partially-raised) in another deeply red state. Neither of them are particularly unusual among red states. I've seen and interacted with plenty of people in both states who make no bones about being red voters. I used to be a republican. I say all of this to establish one fact: I know the mindset of most republicans, on an instinctual level. And bigotry is inherent to modern republicanism. Has been all of my life (nearly 30 years). Show me a republican who is genuinely not a bigot, and I'll show you a democrat in denial.

To add my own experience, while I never was a republican, I do live in SC, a very red state. While many Republicans are bigots, there are certainly many on the local level who aren't. I can't say if it's a majority or not, but they certainly do exist. Unfortunately, the bigoted ones are much louder and thus seem to be much bigger than they likely are.
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:45 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:CORRECTION:
It will take effort for the most conservatives and anti-establishment Republicans pass laws that will ban transitional surgery for adults.
Most Republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accesing transitional surgery


Alabama already tried banning HRT for some trans adults by setting their HRT ban limit to under 19s. Its only a matter of time before "until 21" hits the overton window. Swiftly followed by "until 26, because the human brain is still developing until 25".


I guess conservatives are okay with child marriage, but they will be damned if an adult wants to receive transgender medical care
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:46 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:Why can't you accept that MOST republicans aren't bigots?


I won't speak for ABH, but I'll tell you why I can't accept that: I live in a deeply red state. I was born (and partially-raised) in another deeply red state. Neither of them are particularly unusual among red states. I've seen and interacted with plenty of people in both states who make no bones about being red voters. I used to be a republican. I say all of this to establish one fact: I know the mindset of most republicans, on an instinctual level. And bigotry is inherent to modern republicanism. Has been all of my life (nearly 30 years). Show me a republican who is genuinely not a bigot, and I'll show you a democrat in denial.

Yeah, born and raised in Alabama, parents fully on the republican koolaid diet, drank it myself when I was younger. It's greed, bigotry, and xenophobia all the way down.
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Postby The Angel of Thursday » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:03 pm

Transgender people have it hard as it already is. They should be celebrated and given the money to medically transition. People in our country are safe from discrimination and hate crimes are at an all time low.

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Postby Shermania » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:28 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:A damned lie.

"A damned lie"
What is the lie? The fact that MOST republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accessing transitional surgery? Why can't you accept that MOST republicans aren't bigots? Why do you think the establishment would go so deep conservatives since it would lose so many voters?
If the lie is New Minneapolis' quote, then ignore my statement.

The idea that Republicans wouldn't do something that would outrage most Americans in order to please their most vitriolic base is naïve.

I've had my fill of hoping that Republicans won't pass terrible, regressive legislation. But they continue to do so, and continue to support politicians who do so.

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Postby JohnGaltia » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:42 pm

Just because those trans people have a stigmatized mental disorder it does not mean they should be physically assaulted. Even the ones that only have the sexual fetish and not full blown identity disorder should be allowed their perversions as long as they aren’t forcing it on normal people (especially children). There is so much hate but I would think we can all agree on this much. Live and let live I say!
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:22 pm

JohnGaltia wrote:Just because those trans people have a stigmatized mental disorder it does not mean they should be physically assaulted. Even the ones that only have the sexual fetish and not full blown identity disorder should be allowed their perversions as long as they aren’t forcing it on normal people (especially children). There is so much hate but I would think we can all agree on this much. Live and let live I say!

If you want ppl to "live and let live" then you would hold your wretched tongue

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:42 pm

Indiana Controlled Florida wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:A damned lie.

"A damned lie"
What is the lie? The fact that MOST republicans don't support banning transgender adults from accessing transitional surgery? Why can't you accept that MOST republicans aren't bigots? Why do you think the establishment would go so deep conservatives since it would lose so many voters?
If the lie is New Minneapolis' quote, then ignore my statement.


Fact eh? Got some number to prove that?

Bigots? Well. My experiences say other wise. And again got numbers to support that claim?

Question: If they are so supportive of lgbtq+ Why haven’t things like gay marriage been codified? Gays adopting children? Why all the talk about grooming?

But hey….let’s see your evidence?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:45 pm

JohnGaltia wrote:Just because those trans people have a stigmatized mental disorder it does not mean they should be physically assaulted. Even the ones that only have the sexual fetish and not full blown identity disorder should be allowed their perversions as long as they aren’t forcing it on normal people (especially children). There is so much hate but I would think we can all agree on this much. Live and let live I say!


Moving on to bait now?

Live and let live? You write rather hateful comments; let’s see if we can guess what is the lie?
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Postby Chingis » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:02 pm

JohnGaltia wrote:Just because those trans people have a stigmatized mental disorder it does not mean they should be physically assaulted. Even the ones that only have the sexual fetish and not full blown identity disorder should be allowed their perversions as long as they aren’t forcing it on normal people (especially children). There is so much hate but I would think we can all agree on this much. Live and let live I say!


Clearly you didn't read UC's post very clearly.

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